NotSoSuper Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 OK let me start by saying I'm a wizards fan. There's this guy i know his name is Albert and he is a Huge Cavs/Lebron fan. He absolutely loves Lebron James i mean he has his shoes and everything and constantly mocks Gilbert Arenas and the Wizards. He believes Lebron is the greatest of all time and how much better he is then Kobe and Arenas. I constantly tell him how stern loves Lebron and gives him every call but he'll change the subject back to Lebron Vs Arenas. Ill admit Lebrons a good player but he hasn't won anything. He whines all game and he needs to STFU. Ill argue that if Gilbert was healthy he'd be just as good as Lebron and he doesn't get every call. He says Lebron wont leave Cleveland which isnt true. He constantly says Gilbert sucks and hes starting to piss me off.:rant: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBash Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Lebron will go down as the greatest player of all time...statistically. I don't know how many championships he'll win, if any, but the dude is dominate. He won't surpass Jordan, no one will, but he might surpass Kobe. I am a huge Wizards fan, but even a healthy Gil doesn't compare to Lebron, I'm sorry. Add Griffin or Bosh, the Wiz can take down Cleveland and Boston with more defense down low. We'll see, lets let hope the NBA Lottery goes our way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoSuper Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 Lebron will go down as the greatest player of all time...statistically. I don't know how many championships he'll win, if any, but the dude is dominate. He won't surpass Jordan, no one will, but he might surpass Kobe.I am a huge Wizards fan, but even a healthy Gil doesn't compare to Lebron, I'm sorry. Add Griffin or Bosh, the Wiz can take down Cleveland and Boston with more defense down low. We'll see, lets let hope the NBA Lottery goes our way! if i got the calls he did i could become greatest player of all time statistically i could run down the court with out dribbling the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoSkins561 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Well Gilbert pretty much does suck in comparison, Lebron is a bad dude. If Gilbert actually played you might have an argument, instead he is always hurt, done deal, Gilbert can't even hold Lebrons jock. You could always punch him in the face and then kick him in the nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Lebron is significantly better than Arenas, and I am a wizards fan. Lebron is likely the best player in the NBA at the moment. Arenas isn't even in that conversation when healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCranon21 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Better than Kobe...LMAO 14-45, ask him about that stat this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travdaskin Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 LeBron MVP, Kobe Finals MVP, I am sure Kobe will be EXTREMELY happy with that (as will I) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperBash Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Jeez, all I said is he MIGHT, MIGHT surpass Kobe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoSuper Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 Well Gilbert pretty much does suck in comparison, Lebron is a bad dude. If Gilbert actually played you might have an argument, instead he is always hurt, done deal, Gilbert can't even hold Lebrons jock.You could always punch him in the face and then kick him in the nuts. Gilbert may not be as good but at least he isn't a d-bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 We spent the last 4 seasons being LeBron James' postseason ladder to the top. He climbed us every time. He hasn't reached the tippy-top yet but there's no question we were a semi-interesting footnote in his career. I don't know where the Wizards will go from here, but ultimately (if he's not hurt) he'll be there to cap us. The East is his to win. The only thing your friend the Cavs fan should worry about is that LeBron could one day fly off to NY and become Cleveland's capper too. How come I have a feeling your friend's allegiance would fly with him? Did I mention I hate LeTravel "The One Above Reproach" James? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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pmo33 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 OK let me start by saying I'm a wizards fan. There's this guy i know his name is Albert and he is a Huge Cavs/Lebron fan. He absolutely loves Lebron James i mean he has his shoes and everything and constantly mocks Gilbert Arenas and the Wizards. He believes Lebron is the greatest of all time and how much better he is then Kobe and Arenas. I constantly tell him how stern loves Lebron and gives him every call but he'll change the subject back to Lebron Vs Arenas. Ill admit Lebrons a good player but he hasn't won anything. He whines all game and he needs to STFU. Ill argue that if Gilbert was healthy he'd be just as good as Lebron and he doesn't get every call. He says Lebron wont leave Cleveland which isnt true. He constantly says Gilbert sucks and hes starting to piss me off.:rant: I know your upset , but honestly there is NOOOO comparison between Gil and Bron. not even close. i would argue lebron was a better player in High school that gil is at this level now. but i digress. Lebron has done somthing this year that no player has ever done. He has managed to win a ton of game with little to no supporting cast. Bird has hall of famers when he was with the celts, magic had worthy, kareem etc, jordan had pippen. I promise nobody will be boucing a grandchild on their lap in 40 years talking about watching the cleveland cavs and Mo williams or illgauskus play.. its all lebron. respect what the man is doing and don't let you blind wizard hate cloud your vision. your friend is correct. lebron is rewriting the game of bball. period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoSuper Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 I know your upset , but honestly there is NOOOO comparison between Gil and Bron. not even close. i would argue lebron was a better player in High school that gil is at this level now. but i digress.Lebron has done somthing this year that no player has ever done. He has managed to win a ton of game with little to no supporting cast. Bird has hall of famers when he was with the celts, magic had worthy, kareem etc, jordan had pippen. I promise nobody will be boucing a grandchild on their lap in 40 years talking about watching the cleveland cavs and Mo williams or illgauskus play.. its all lebron. respect what the man is doing and don't let you blind wizard hate cloud your vision. your friend is correct. lebron is rewriting the game of bball. period hes not rewriting basketball period. MJ23 did that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travdaskin Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Man screw that BS, Cleveland has players, a all-star for that matter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmo33 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 hes not rewriting basketball period. MJ23 did that how is he not? he is the biggest/strongest/fastest/most athletic player in the NBA right now. He is a 265 pound, freight train. pound for pound he is the strongest in the nba. yes .. he is stronger than Shaq and Dwight Howard. he can beat a team anyway he wants to. i am a huge jordan fan, but kobe is more like jordan than lebron. i would like to shake your friends hand. he is one of the smartest people i have heard about. there was no Lebron before Lebron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmo33 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Man screw that BS, Cleveland has players, a all-star for that matter... WHAT. i mean mo williams made the all star game as a Injury replacement reserve.. like last guy in. even though he deserved a start with the year he had. but still name another player on the cavs that would start on many other teams in the Nba. im not saying Mo williams sucks... but is he Pippen, Mchale, Worthy, Kareem, Parrish??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travdaskin Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 WHAT. i mean mo williams made the all star game as a Injury replacement reserve.. like last guy in. even though he deserved a start with the year he had.but still name another player on the cavs that would start on many other teams in the Nba. im not saying Mo williams sucks... but is he Pippen, Mchale, Worthy, Kareem, Parrish??? I just get tired of hearing that Cleveland has no one, they have people that do what they do well, not a bunch of stars, they have overachievers IMO, LeBron is the MVP but I still don't think he is better than Kobe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmo33 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 I just get tired of hearing that Cleveland has no one, they have people that do what they do well, not a bunch of stars, they have overachievers IMO, LeBron is the MVP but I still don't think he is better than Kobe... truth be told kobe is my fav. in the nba. I just don't think from a physical standpoint he can stand up to bron. plus you need to remember that players hit their prime 26-30... so i mean what is lebron gonna be like not knocking kobe because he is nasty... but when lebron is done.. he will be on a pedestal all by himself. i think im into this thread because of how much i hate Arenas... i mean i have never seen a more overated, mouthy, player in my life. everything about Gil pisses me off, he was a 2nd round draft pic for a reason, because he is a gunner that needs tons of shots to succeed and doesn't play a lick of D. he is also lazy and doesn't work on his game or Rehab as he has shown this past 2 years. he has set back washington bball so much. they need to dump everyone except Caron and rebuild. but thats for another convo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoSuper Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 how is he not?he is the biggest/strongest/fastest/most athletic player in the NBA right now. He is a 265 pound, freight train. pound for pound he is the strongest in the nba. yes .. he is stronger than Shaq and Dwight Howard. he can beat a team anyway he wants to. i am a huge jordan fan, but kobe is more like jordan than lebron. i would like to shake your friends hand. he is one of the smartest people i have heard about. there was no Lebron before Lebron NO way he is stronger then shaq or howard. If he was so good he would of won a championship by now. My friend isnt smart hes just a lebron jock rider. he says hes better then kobe:hysterical: And of course there was no lebron before lebron cause NOONE got calls like he does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Lebron will never touch the REAL 23. Back off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 how is he not?he is the biggest/strongest/fastest/most athletic player in the NBA right now. He is a 265 pound, freight train. pound for pound he is the strongest in the nba. yes .. he is stronger than Shaq and Dwight Howard. he can beat a team anyway he wants to. i am a huge jordan fan, but kobe is more like jordan than lebron. i would like to shake your friends hand. he is one of the smartest people i have heard about. there was no Lebron before Lebron Sorry, you're biased opinion is showing. He hasn't rewritten anything. He's lucky Jordan was what he was or he might not get all the lucky calls he does. He is nasty but a product of a league where a slap on the wrist nowadays counts as a foul...and he is not stronger than Shaq in his prime. And he'll never be Jordan. And Kobe is still the best player in the NBA, he is just now lucky to actually have a team around him. If he was on the Cavs, he'd be getting the #'s LeBron has. LeBron has by FAR the fewest amount of fouls/violatiosn called on him than any other superstar in the league. There was a whole article about it. If you find it, the stats are pathetic. Stern obviously is helping him along. He has so much less called on him than even Kobe and Wade it's laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travdaskin Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 truth be told kobe is my fav. in the nba. I just don't think from a physical standpoint he can stand up to bron. plus you need to remember that players hit their prime 26-30... so i mean what is lebron gonna be likenot knocking kobe because he is nasty... but when lebron is done.. he will be on a pedestal all by himself. i think im into this thread because of how much i hate Arenas... i mean i have never seen a more overated, mouthy, player in my life. everything about Gil pisses me off, he was a 2nd round draft pic for a reason, because he is a gunner that needs tons of shots to succeed and doesn't play a lick of D. he is also lazy and doesn't work on his game or Rehab as he has shown this past 2 years. he has set back washington bball so much. they need to dump everyone except Caron and rebuild. but thats for another convo. I like Hibachi but he straight up robbed the Wiz lol, like you said Kobe plays more like MJ than anyone has ever had IMO, LeBron plays a physical brand of basketball, Kobe plays a smooth, elegant style of basketball, basketball purist will always look at Kobe as the better player because of his style... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmo33 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Sorry, you're biased opinion is showing. He hasn't rewritten anything. He's lucky Jordan was what he was or he might not get all the lucky calls he does. He is nasty but a product of a league where a slap on the wrist nowadays counts as a foul...and he is not stronger than Shaq in his prime. And he'll never be Jordan. And Kobe is still the best player in the NBA, he is just now lucky to actually have a team around him. If he was on the Cavs, he'd be getting the #'s LeBron has.LeBron has by FAR the fewest amount of fouls/violatiosn called on him than any other superstar in the league. There was a whole article about it. If you find it, the stats are pathetic. Stern obviously is helping him along. He has so much less called on him than even Kobe and Wade it's laughable. Talk to me in 10 years. you will regret your statment. i saw jordan in his prime. the best. for now Lebron is different.. but time will tell. no way to argue with Gizkid fans anyway. anyone who can actually think gil is a good player, or even a good guy must be brain dead. gil will be out of the league in 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticksboi05 Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 truth be told kobe is my fav. in the nba. I just don't think from a physical standpoint he can stand up to bron. plus you need to remember that players hit their prime 26-30... so i mean what is lebron gonna be likenot knocking kobe because he is nasty... but when lebron is done.. he will be on a pedestal all by himself. i think im into this thread because of how much i hate Arenas... i mean i have never seen a more overated, mouthy, player in my life. everything about Gil pisses me off, he was a 2nd round draft pic for a reason, because he is a gunner that needs tons of shots to succeed and doesn't play a lick of D. he is also lazy and doesn't work on his game or Rehab as he has shown this past 2 years. he has set back washington bball so much. they need to dump everyone except Caron and rebuild. but thats for another convo. You're clueless. One, are you really calling Arenas arrogant. LeBron is the epitome. Just look at how he acts. He thinks he's king of the world. Lebron needs referees to succeed...a more mouthy player? TO come to mind? Btw, Caron, seriously? Build around a guy who is 30 next year and misses 15-20 games a season for wrist/groin injuries... I can't wait till LeBron ends his career and he is only considered somewhat better than Barkley. Kobe is the best player in the league when he has to be. End of story. LeBron will accumulate statistics but he won't get by the Western Conference teams. And certainly won't touch the REAL #23 whom he tries to mimic constantly (like with the chalk thing) Btw, I never said Arenas was at LeBron's level...so don't put words in my mouth. In fact Arenas' playing ability never entered my first post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotSoSuper Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 truth be told kobe is my fav. in the nba. I just don't think from a physical standpoint he can stand up to bron. plus you need to remember that players hit their prime 26-30... so i mean what is lebron gonna be likenot knocking kobe because he is nasty... but when lebron is done.. he will be on a pedestal all by himself. i think im into this thread because of how much i hate Arenas... i mean i have never seen a more overated, mouthy, player in my life. everything about Gil pisses me off, he was a 2nd round draft pic for a reason, because he is a gunner that needs tons of shots to succeed and doesn't play a lick of D. he is also lazy and doesn't work on his game or Rehab as he has shown this past 2 years. he has set back washington bball so much. they need to dump everyone except Caron and rebuild. but thats for another convo. Oh sure Lebrons not mouthy he a little biotch he effing whines over every foul taunts openents during free throws. when gilberts back ull be seein this all day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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