chow184 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I've heard the pundits say he has an average arm,how many average arm QB's make that 2nd throw? what I see... a GOOD proper throwing motion,quick set up,and quick reset,good throwing on the run, throws with the touch to drop the ball on top of WR's,and the velocity to laser it in there when needed. looks good to me... I like campbell the person,but as a pure passer....sanchez has him beat cold. granted it's at the college level,but you'd be reaching to say campbell could do what sanchez did last year at USC. looked for a mark sanchez highlights in the search,found nothing. highlights of a QB we're greatly rumored to be lenamored with is something I think deserves it's own topic. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNwVfPNhYtI all his throws from the rose bowl against penn state Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Love the laser thing. I was thinking about that when watching a similar vid earlier today. He doesn't throw rockets. He doesn't have the fastball, hurt-someone velocity like a Jay Cutler has. Instead he throws lasers. Just bam bam. So fast and on a rope. I'm all about it. And I hear his sister April Sanchez is pretty hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Meh, Campbell had college highlights. The guy has bust written all over him. I wouldn't take the risk. I think matt leinart played better than Sanchez did in college and look at Matt now. I hope the skins don't pick him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus87 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I'd say about half of those completed passes were to guys completely wide-open just running around where ever they pleased. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostyj Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Nice hightlight reel! About 35%(don't know where I got that, but it was alot)of those passes the reciever didn't have a defender within 5 yards. I don't like the move if it happens, you build a team around players(operative word "players") You cant just plug and play this isn't Windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mnb123 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 I havnt watched Sanchez enough to pass any judgments, but really anyone can pass the highlight test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskool Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Meh' date=' Campbell had college highlights. The guy has bust written all over him. I wouldn't take the risk. I think matt leinart played better than Sanchez did in college and look at Matt now. I hope the skins don't pick him.[/quote']Matt is also a partyboy. He was in college and he is in the pros. He's more interested in tail than TD's. Only way Sanchez is a bust is if he is asked to be a full time starter within the first 2 years of his NFL career. Also this highlight reel also can be deceptive. Most of the highlights come at the expense of the notable and infamously horrible PAC-10 teams where USC's talent was head and shoulders above their competition. That's not to say that Sanchez doesn't have talent but you might as well show a video of him torching a HS team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RomanSkin Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 MM tell me if i'm wrong but with a WCO you need a very accourate passer on the short medioum routes... In those highlights i see a strong arm, the capacity to see open recivers in the bottom of the field but i can not say how accourate is the guy, specially thinking that NFL defenses are much more accurate in deep cover and aggressive on the line of scrimmage... So the point is .. is it going to be a real upgrade with this offensive system or is it just the "i want to change QB" feeling that's speaking?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pocampo Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 MM tell me if i'm wrong but with a WCO you need a very accourate passer on the short medioum routes... In those highlights i see a strong arm, the capacity to see open recivers in the bottom of the field but i can not say how accourate is the guy, specially thinking that NFL defenses are much more accurate in deep cover and aggressive on the line of scrimmage...So the point is .. is it going to be a real upgrade with this offensive system or is it just the "i want to change QB" feeling that's speaking?? MS is like a faster version of Jason. But MS does know the HOT SPOTS in LA, Plus the numbers on his IPHONE could come in handy for sure, If your going to the west coast this is the guy you want to be with, Not sure how he would do in the belt way.LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derskinsfan Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Not saying I completely support the idea of drafting Sanchez (especially if it involves moving up to get him), but passing to open receivers isn't necessarily a sign of an "easy" pass. Often it's the sign of a QB who knows how to anticipate the open man on the field and get the ball to him quickly. A big part of my frustration w/Campbell is that: 1) He has a long release that makes it hard for him to get rid of the ball quickly. 2) He is so concerned about turning the ball over that he often waits for the receiver to make his break completely before releasing the ball. This leads to holding the ball too long and sacks. Can JC un-learn these things? I guess, maybe. Last year the first step for him was making a lot of quick underneath throws when he was in doubt. By the end of the season, defenses had neutralized this, however, because short throws coupled with a primarily run-oriented offense shortens the field up unless you can stretch it with at least the threat of a big play. But I'm guessing that Zorn had to run a modified version of his offense because JC really doesn't have the ideal skill set for a WCO quarterback. He is a classic drop back passer, a la Doug Williams and Mark Rypien. I think that's what Joe Gibbs saw in him, and his plan was to give him time to develop under Brunell. But the thing that really threw a wrench into that plan was the Al Saunders offense. Collins is not a physically gifted passer, but he showed what that offense could do when run properly (and by that, I mean score more than 10 points a game). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warpath11 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 At the same point in their careers Mark Sanchez is by far more polished in terms of a QB. Shancez mechanics, compared to JCs, coming out of college are light years ahead. That is not a guarantee on anything but for comparison sake I think it is valid. While Mark Sanchez did play with superior talent Jason Campbell came from an offense that constatnly saw 8 even 9 man fronts 80% of the time due to Cadillac Williams and Ronnie Brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsTerps26 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 few things i noted from those clips his throw at 3:16 is excellent! they faced some pretty terrible defenders, the nfl isn't as forgiving i would love mark sanchez on my team, i just don't think its the best option for the Redskins today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never4get#21 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Sanchez looks like Heath Shuler part II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chow184 Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 Sanchez looks like Heath Shuler part II I really like your supporting evidence! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jileib Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 ms is everything campbell is not; the team that gets him will be very fortunate; the redskins could have a superstar at every offensive skill position; it does them no good; campbell cannot get them the ball; HE IS TOO SLOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Probos Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Hahaha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Probos Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 ms is everything campbell is not; the team that gets him will be very fortunate; the redskins could have a superstar at every offensive skill position; it does them no good; campbell cannot get them the ball; HE IS TOO SLOW A "superstar" at every offensive skill position? Hahaha -- put down the crack pipe. We have a two pro bowlers, Cooley and Portis,...and thats about it. Receivers are above average at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROSCOUT Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Of course every highlight reel is exactly that:highlights. No bad throws. I notice that on the highlight reel, he has pocket presence. Of course to have pocket presence you actually must have a pocket, and he certainly has. Maybe we should consider drafting some of his linemen because they keep pass rushers off him. His highlight reel might look different had he played behind the Skins offensive line last season in the NFL. I think we are much better served drafting a linebacker like Mauluga or a run blocker like Smith. But I will defer to Vinnie/Danny to make such important decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acuratl1984 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 He has good field vision imo, his transition from one side of the field to another is QUICK... his release is even quicker. I'm still hoping JC do well, I dont think we should spend another 1st rounder on a QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acuratl1984 Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 A "superstar" at every offensive skill position? Hahaha -- put down the crack pipe.We have a two pro bowlers, Cooley and Portis,...and thats about it. Receivers are above average at best. You are reading what he typed wrong... he said we "COULD" have SUPERSTARS at every position, and Campbell still wont do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chow184 Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 Of course every highlight reel is exactly that:highlights. No bad throws. I notice that on the highlight reel, he has pocket presence. Of course to have pocket presence you actually must have a pocket, and he certainly has. Maybe we should consider drafting some of his linemen because they keep pass rushers off him. His highlight reel might look different had he played behind the Skins offensive line last season in the NFL. I think we are much better served drafting a linebacker like Mauluga or a run blocker like Smith. But I will defer to Vinnie/Danny to make such important decisions. did you notice the throws were sanchez was throwing with people breating down his neck or in his face? he also was great at moving inside the pocket,resetting and throwing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Probos Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 You are reading what he typed wrong...he said we "COULD" have SUPERSTARS at every position, and Campbell still wont do well. You're right -- my bad. :doh: Although I would disagree. I'm really hoping Jason does well this year, for his sake and the teams. It would be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROSCOUT Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 did you notice the throws were sanchez was throwing with people breating down his neck or in his face? he also was great at moving inside the pocket,resetting and throwing. What I know is that its a highlight reel and even Jason Campbell can look like that on a highlight reel. Highlights are your best 5-6 plays in each game and then strung together for 20 plays. It looks like a complete game but its HIGHLIGHTS. Now with that said, I noticed that Sanchez is throwing deep a lot, and thats something the Redskins never do, or its rare. Sanchez has good foot movement and seems to spot his receivers well, but then again, hasn't he been in that same system for 3 years? If he's good thats great, but its hard to tell from highlight reels because even Todd Marinovich had a highlight reel and I see he was arrested the other day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#98QBKiller Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 Still not sure why we'd take Sanchez. What do we do if we take him and Jason Campbell explodes in Zorn's offense in year two? What do we do if we take him, Jason goes down and Colt steps in and blows it up in Zorn's offense? What about our offensive line? On top of that he only started one season at USC (couldn't win the starting job from John David Booty). I won't say he has "bust" written all over him but I will say that he has "smoke screen" written all over him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 At the same point in their careers Mark Sanchez is by far more polished in terms of a QB. Shancez mechanics, compared to JCs, coming out of college are light years ahead. That is not a guarantee on anything but for comparison sake I think it is valid.While Mark Sanchez did play with superior talent Jason Campbell came from an offense that constatnly saw 8 even 9 man fronts 80% of the time due to Cadillac Williams and Ronnie Brown. The comparison isn't between Sanchez and Campbell. Sanchez could be a far better NFL QB than JC, which is a pretty low bar to pass, and still be a bust. Taking a guy in the the top half of the 1st rd is a risk because you have to invest at least a couple of years with him as a starter. Making that investment shouldn't be based on whether the prospect is better than a likely 3rd string QB in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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