SnyderShrugged Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 After the fusion center reports regarding Militia from Missouri, this is starting to appear as an all out push for slander against a particular political belief system. Interesting that these things are coming up before the many tax protests and tea party;s this week. troubling http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/apr/14/federal-agency-warns-of-radicals-on-right/ The Department of Homeland Security is warning law enforcement officials about a rise in "rightwing extremist activity," saying the economic recession, the election of America's first black president and the return of a few disgruntled war veterans could swell the ranks of white-power militias. A footnote attached to the report by the Homeland Security Office of Intelligence and Analysis defines "rightwing extremism in the United States" as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority. "It may include groups and individuals that are dedicated to a single-issue, such as opposition to abortion or immigration," the warning says. The White House has distanced itself from the analysis. When asked for comment on its contents, White House spokesman Nick Shapiro said, "The President is focused not on politics but rather taking the steps necessary to protect all Americans from the threat of violence and terrorism regardless of its origins. He also believes those who serve represent the best of this country, and he will continue to ensure that our veterans receive the respect and benefits they have earned." The nine-page document was sent to police and sheriff's departments across the United States on April 7 under the headline, "Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment." It says the federal government "will be working with its state and local partners over the next several months" to gather information on "rightwing extremist activity in the United States." The joint federal-state activities will have "a particular emphasis" on the causes of "rightwing extremist radicalization." Homeland Security spokeswoman Sara Kuban said the report is one in an ongoing series of assessments by the department to "facilitate a greater understanding of the phenomenon of violent radicalization in the U.S." The report, which was first disclosed to the public by nationally syndicated radio host Roger Hedge****, makes clear that the Homeland Security Department does not have "specific information that domestic rightwing terrorists are currently planning acts of violence."It warns that fringe organizations are gaining recruits, but it provides no numbers. The report says extremist groups have used President Obama as a recruiting tool. (Click link for the rest of the article) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 hey SS, want to start a militia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted April 14, 2009 Author Share Posted April 14, 2009 hey SS, want to start a militia? LOl! I wouldnt post it here if I did! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 LOl! I wouldnt post it here if I did! gotcha, I'll take it to PMs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted April 14, 2009 Author Share Posted April 14, 2009 as a reminder from last months debacle... http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Missouri_retracts_police_memo_which_labeled_0326.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdskn4Lyf21 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Acorn is supposedly venturing out to tea parties tomorrow in hopes to either start **** or paint the groups in a negative light. Why can't people have a point of view, without harming others, and it be respected? :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Judges Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I don't see why this would be troubling seeing as how right wing nutjobs have a long history of violence and terrorism be it against black churches, abortion clinics, office buildings, or sports arenas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 This has to be fake, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdskn4Lyf21 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I don't see why this would be troubling seeing as how right wing nutjobs have a long history of violence and terrorism be it against black churches, abortion clinics, office buildings, or sports arenas. Yeah, "nutjobs".....God forbid people are opposed to the over 35 million (and growing) babies that have been killed since the 70s :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Judges Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Yeah, "nutjobs".....God forbid people are opposed to the over 35 million (and growing) babies that have been killed since the 70s :doh: Nevermind your nonsensical POV, bombing an abortion clinic is a rational thing to do in your opinion? To me, that classifies someone as well within the realm of nutjob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted April 14, 2009 Author Share Posted April 14, 2009 This has to be fake, right? I truly wish it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted April 14, 2009 Author Share Posted April 14, 2009 Nevermind your nonsensical POV, bombing an abortion clinic is a rational thing to do in your opinion? To me, that classifies someone as well within the realm of nutjob. Yes, and there are so many instances of such acts, right? enough to warrant a Homeland security report? Just how many deaths and/or acts of violence have we seen in the last decade? How about compared to other groups that share a belief system? I'd like data please, since there are so many "right wing nut jobs" perpetrating these heinous acts to such a degree that warnings need to be issued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdskn4Lyf21 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Nevermind your nonsensical POV, bombing an abortion clinic is a rational thing to do in your opinion? To me, that classifies someone as well within the realm of nutjob. It's a stupid thing to do. Nonsensical is killing millions and millions and innocents who can't defend themselves. I just don't see everyone on the right bombing abortion clinics, even the extreme right, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midnight Judges Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Yes, and there are so many instances of such acts, right?enough to warrant a Homeland security report? Just how many deaths and/or acts of violence have we seen in the last decade? How about compared to other groups that share a belief system? I'd like data please, since there are so many "right wing nut jobs" perpetrating these heinous acts to such a degree that warnings need to be issued. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of the concept of homeland security. The point is to pre-empt attacks, not wait for them to happen and then react. If homeland security has reason to believe these nutjob groups are ramping up, and it make sense that they would be right now because their political heroes are recently relgated to damn near irrelevent and we have a black president, then homeland security has an obligation to share that information with local authorities. Obviously posters who think Ted Kaczynski is eloquent (as he has been described right here on extremeskins) are not going to be as alarmed as rational folks would be. Anyway: WASHINGTON -- Hate crime incidents rose nearly 8 percent last year, the FBI reported Monday, as civil rights advocates increasingly take to the streets to protest what they call official indifference to intimidation and attacks against blacks and other minorities. Police across the nation reported 7,722 criminal incidents in 2006 targeting victims or property as a result of bias against a race, religion, sexual orientation, ethnic or national origin or physical or mental disability. That was up 7.8 percent from 7,163 incidents reported in 2005. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/11/19/AR2007111900607.html?nav=rss_nation Hey! Where does the FBI get off investigating this? :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duckus Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Acorn is supposedly venturing out to tea parties tomorrow in hopes to either start **** or paint the groups in a negative light.Why can't people have a point of view, without harming others, and it be respected? :doh: Do you have a link for that? I am not say you are lying at all, just have not heard that from a reliable source yet myself. When conservatives start talking about Acorn I always need a link, well, because we all remember last time we heard the cries of Acorn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 As if there aren't radicals to be worried over.. Here's an idea. Let's SEE WHAT HAPPENS before we start the revolution, ok? I bet that during these Tea Parties and such that NOTHING happens. No FBI busts, no jackbooters cracking heads. Nothing. Maybe some counter protests, and that's about it. Considering how most of us do agree that the "news" these days is catered towards specific slants, and how we know that our "news" agencies do try to rabble rouse, how about instead of jumping up and banging pots and pans together when they tell us to that we do the wise thing and not dance to their tune. Refuse to be manipulated! Refuse to be used! Exercise your right to believe none of what you read and half of what you hear! REFUSE to be baited. Rather than sit here and get highly pissed off about something that is more than likely nothing, let's just sit back and say "nah.. as usual, the manipulators are manipulating me. I shan't give in." Give it a try. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Godfather Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Yeah, "nutjobs".....God forbid people are opposed to the over 35 million (and growing) babies that have been killed since the 70s :doh: Well, I guess it's decided - I'm a nutjob. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@DCGoldPants Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I think they should go back to spying on local DNC's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdskn4Lyf21 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Do you have a link for that? I am not say you are lying at all, just have not heard that from a reliable source yet myself.When conservatives start talking about Acorn I always need a link, well, because we all remember last time we heard the cries of Acorn. What sources would you consider "reliable" then? I see articles like this one: http://www.abc2news.com/news/local/story/Conservatives-Plan-Tea-Party-Protests-Across-State/-Etx8enRwEKsc_0FHqjkSg.cspx - saying that "rumors" exist of them doing so, which like I said, they are "supposedly" doing. Either way, they are denying it, because duh it would put a negative light on them. I'll be at one and I'll have a camera to let you know firsthand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 "rightwing extremism in the United States" as including not just racist or hate groups, but also groups that reject federal authority in favor of state or local authority. So people who follow the Constitution? And I resent being called right-wing! I'm libertarian! :redpunch::saber: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I gotta say, based on many of the comment floated around ES, this makes perfect sense to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heisenberg Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 It's a stupid thing to do. Nonsensical is killing millions and millions and innocents who can't defend themselves. I just don't see everyone on the right bombing abortion clinics, even the extreme right, sorry. . . . and I don't see everyone on the left having tons of abortions but that doesn't keep you from classifying everyone on the left as merciless baby killers. I'd also say bombing of clinics, etc. as far more than a "stupid thing to do". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDave Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 I don't see why this would be troubling seeing as how right wing nutjobs have a long history of violence and terrorism be it against black churches, abortion clinics, office buildings, or sports arenas. Yet history shows that those most of those nutjobs were in the Democratic party. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdskn4Lyf21 Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 So people who follow the Constitution? And I resent being called right-wing! I'm libertarian! :redpunch::saber: You are now classified as one of us . . . and I don't see everyone on the left having tons of abortions but that doesn't keep you from classifying everyone on the left as merciless baby killers. I'd also say bombing of clinics, etc. as far more than a "stupid thing to do". ...so I said everyone on the left has abortions and are "merciless baby killers"? Wow, take that more out of context, please. Also, forgive me for not quantifying my disgust for those that bomb abortion clinics in writing. I should've known that would be taken and skewed as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted April 14, 2009 Share Posted April 14, 2009 Yet history shows that those most of those nutjobs were in the Democratic party. Just because a person says they are a member of a party, doesn't mean they represent ideology of the party. Everyone in the South was a Democrat 50 years, but VERY few of them were liberal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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