Skins3000 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 This was a very interesting article on character something Joe Gibbs emphasized during his tenure. http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Draft+Extras/2009/wwhi040909.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE HAMMER'IN HOG Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 This was a very interesting article on character something Joe Gibbs emphasized during his tenure. http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Draft+Extras/2009/wwhi040909.htm Found it interesting that Andre Smith was not mentioned, and M.Oher was considered a possible risk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins2473 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Didn't know Crabtree was such a diva. Glad we drafted our crop last year so there will be no real incentive to get him if he falls. Disturbed to see Maualuga on the list but I'd still take him at 13 if Everett Brown or one of the Big 4 tackles isn't available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVSkins n Hokies Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 this list wasnt what I was expecting at all. disturbing to read that Rey has "... questions [that] remain about his maturity, accountability, trustworthiness, intelligence and ability to responsibly handle alcohol." although, from reading the "hardcore" thread, this could be said about a number of people on ES Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mac Patty Wack Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I was completely unaware of Carabtree's and Harvin's problems. I thought they were sort of the opposite. I know have 0% desire to take Crabtree at 13, not like I really thought we should draft him in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGoodBits Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I don't think that what is said about Crabtree really makes him a top 5 risky pick. Same for Raji. imo both those guys will have solid NFL careers, and are pretty safe picks. I'm not at all sold on Sanchez though, and I was hoping this list included him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyndorf25 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I find it interesting that there is no mention of Andre Smith. I happy to see that actually, given his mishandling of the Combine. I really hope the Skins can land an OT in the draft. If there are character issues, he'd be coming to a team with an old-school O-line coach and a host of veterans to keep him in check and help him to become the best he can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BALLz Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 The big concern for me in reguards to Rey is the mention of alcohol. I believe Fletcher can influence him and help him with the other issues. But we've all seen how big a part alcohol has in off field trouble around the league. I problem we should be proud to say, hasn't been an issue here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Bait Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Glad we drafted our crop last year so there will be no real incentive to get him if he fallsthat is shocking, considering this years WR are about 10 times better than last years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I don't think that what is said about Crabtree really makes him a top 5 risky pick. Same for Raji. imo both those guys will have solid NFL careers, and are pretty safe picks. I'm not at all sold on Sanchez though, and I was hoping this list included him. Ha. Sanchez is far too polished to appear on this list. He is a modern, NFL ready QB. He is going to manage his image well. Young players have taken the lessons of Ryan Leaf seriously. I'm not a huge fan of Raji any more. I think he'd be redundant on our team and he doesn't strike me as the sharpest tool in the shed. People have been too quick to ignore his faults because he had such a good senior season and plays an important position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Bait Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I was completely unaware of Carabtree's and Harvin's problems. I thought they were sort of the opposite. I know have 0% desire to take Crabtree at 13, not like I really thought we should draft him in the first place. Percy had serious character flaws when he played at Landstown High school in Virginia Beach. But I heard he really cleaned up his act at UF. All the coaches had nothing but good things to say about him. Being the star player of your state championship high school team is a lot to handle for an 18 year old. Not hard for it all to go to your head. hopefully he did turn it around in college and has a successful pro career for a team that isn't in the NFC East. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Going Commando Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I find it interesting that there is no mention of Andre Smith. I happy to see that actually, given his mishandling of the Combine. I really hope the Skins can land an OT in the draft. If there are character issues, he'd be coming to a team with an old-school O-line coach and a host of veterans to keep him in check and help him to become the best he can be. People grossly overblew Andre Smith's issues. He screwed up the combine but it isn't like he's ever been arrested, failed a drug test, kicked off the team, or called a bad teammate. He clearly didn't understand how to handle the pre-draft process by talking to an agent too soon and completely mishandling his combine preparation. But that isn't a deep character flaw. By all reports, he comes from a good family and is a good guy. The only concern I'd have with him are weight issues. He is going to have to manage his weight carefully his entire career. But then the same can be said of half the lineman in the the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyndorf25 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 People grossly overblew Andre Smith's issues. He screwed up the combine but it isn't like he's ever been arrested, failed a drug test, kicked off the team, or called a bad teammate.He clearly didn't understand how to handle the pre-draft process by talking to an agent too soon and completely mishandling his combine preparation. But that isn't a deep character flaw. By all reports, he comes from a good family and is a good guy. The only concern I'd have with him are weight issues. He is going to have to manage his weight carefully his entire career. But then the same can be said of half the lineman in the the league. Good points. My comment was geared more towards his maturity level than his character. He needs to realize that natural ability will only get himself so far in the NFL. He will need to work hard to keep his weight in check as he gets older, as you stated. That comes from the maturity to realize he is about to become a professional football player and he just failed that first test. I'm hoping he can overcome that...especially if the Skins take him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGREENHULK Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Does Larry Michael know Rey likes the booze? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefPowhatan17 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 It's not good that Maualuga is on the list, but that's the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rexrode21 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I mean aren't all WRs divas? I am curious as to why Oher was listed and Smith wasn't as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
styx491 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 This is the first I'm hearing of Rey's character issues. I thought he was a high character guy and a leader, and these evaluations are arbitrary in my eyes. I feel with Fletcher mentoring him, he can develop OUT of those issues easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I've been wary of Maualuga after I have read an uncomfortable list of reports about off field issues, poor work ethic, and not even being an every down player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I would like to mention the fact that because this is a private magazine, someone could have easily been paid to write something like this in order to have the draft go in "their" favor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapitalDefense Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 this list wasnt what I was expecting at all. disturbing to read that Rey has"... questions [that] remain about his maturity, accountability, trustworthiness, intelligence and ability to responsibly handle alcohol." although, from reading the "hardcore" thread, this could be said about a number of people on ES 5. Please be respectful of your fellow members. Every registered member agrees, upon registration, not use these forums to post material or topics which are knowingly false, defamatory, deceptive, inaccurate, racist, insulting, abusive, inflammatory, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually graphic, physically threatening, invasive of another's privacy or otherwise in violation of any law, including stalking or otherwise harassing individual members. Personal attacks or threats will not be tolerated. Go after the idea, not the poster. Free debate within the parameters outlined herein is welcome on these forums, and diversity of opinion lies at the heart of a good debate. Toward that end, every member is free to have their own opinion so long as it is expressed in a civil manner, is within the subject matter topic of the forum and does not otherwise violate forum rules. For the benefit of a very few individuals who believe the second paragraph of this rule is not at all connected with the first, we have deemed it necessary to provide direction. The specifics of this rule require you do not violate any of the parameters clearly laid out in paragraph 1 of this rule, which govern the application of enforcement for the entire rule. And as you debate your fellow members, we request you maintain contact with the content of the discussion within each reply, regardless of how heated it may become. We, again, point to Rule 18 we have not enforced here in some time. Please follow the rules. And please appreciate the people who wrote them know them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 5. Please be respectful of your fellow members.Every registered member agrees, upon registration, not use these forums to post material or topics which are knowingly false, defamatory, deceptive, inaccurate, racist, insulting, abusive, inflammatory, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, sexually graphic, physically threatening, invasive of another's privacy or otherwise in violation of any law, including stalking or otherwise harassing individual members. Personal attacks or threats will not be tolerated. Go after the idea, not the poster. Free debate within the parameters outlined herein is welcome on these forums, and diversity of opinion lies at the heart of a good debate. Toward that end, every member is free to have their own opinion so long as it is expressed in a civil manner, is within the subject matter topic of the forum and does not otherwise violate forum rules. For the benefit of a very few individuals who believe the second paragraph of this rule is not at all connected with the first, we have deemed it necessary to provide direction. The specifics of this rule require you do not violate any of the parameters clearly laid out in paragraph 1 of this rule, which govern the application of enforcement for the entire rule. And as you debate your fellow members, we request you maintain contact with the content of the discussion within each reply, regardless of how heated it may become. We, again, point to Rule 18 we have not enforced here in some time. Please follow the rules. And please appreciate the people who wrote them know them. Why don't you let the police do the policing. There was nothing wrong with what he said. Statements are made like that all the time, including by the mods. Think before you post:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I mean aren't all WRs divas? I am curious as to why Oher was listed and Smith wasn't as well. I would assume with Oher it's more of an issue of intelligence (or lack thereof) rather than character flaws. From everything I've read on the guy he seems like a good kid. I was surprised to see Crabtree on there I was always under the impression he was a bit of the opposite. I guess he just puts on a good facade for the cameras. Rey surprises me a bit as well. I know there were some questions as to him just making stupid decisions like dancing up against that reporter before/after one of the games but I thought that was essentially the extent of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never4get#21 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 I would assume with Oher it's more of an issue of intelligence (or lack thereof) rather than character flaws. From everything I've read on the guy he seems like a good kid. . Oher was bust potential written all over him. He was weak in the combine with short arms. Several scouts believe he maybe a RT at best. That he would not be able to transition over to LT. I hope A. Smith is still there at #13 because if it's left to Oher I would rather trade down and pick up another pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Rich Fla Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 although, from reading the "hardcore" thread, this could be said about a number of people on ES When Dan starts paying us 39 billion a year maybe we will curtail our activities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tml6157 Posted April 10, 2009 Share Posted April 10, 2009 Rey's character issues come from him getting in trouble when he was a freshman at USC right after his father passed away. Both of them were really close and Rey took a major hit from it. After that Ken Harvey took him under his wing and Rey grew up and matured with Harvey stepping in as a father figure for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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