PFT: Jason Campbell Is “Pissed”

[Chump Bailey]

MOST of the QB's in the NFL are average. And so far Jason has been average. Here are some average quarterbacks: Donovan McNabb, Eli Manning, Tony Romo sits to pee, Ben Roethlisberger, and Jake Delhomme.

I think you're reaching here PS.

[edgun88]

I'll give Campbell one more year. If he sucks next year, then cut him.

[Ænima]

Even during his best year in college on a stacked team Jason only threw 20 touchdown passes. You have to be delusional to think he will suddenly break out this year.

[Geoff_K]

Question? If you have a qb rating of 86 and one with an 84.3, one throws 12 more td's and 12 more interceptions...isn't that essentially the same qb? ?

No because the one did score 72 more points than the other. The INT's may allow the other team to score, however there is no guarantee they will. Give me the greater TD's anyday.

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

No because the one did score 72 more points than the other. The INT's may allow the other team to score, however there is no guarantee they will. Give me the greater TD's anyday.

heres a better question:

when you throw a TD, and it counts, are you guaranteed those points?

when you throw an INT, and it counts, are you guaranteed points from that?

[WSHRedskins3ATLBraves3]

Thanks for stating the obvious PFT. Who wouldn't be mad in this situation?

This is what Jason knows:

Nobody cares if he's pissed. He hasn't shown us that much yet. While I still believe he deserves another year to prove himself, he knows that it's best to work hard and prove the naysayers wrong because if he did what Cutler did there wouldn't be much of a market for him.

[Ghost of]

Considering I already demolished the QB rating argument, there's no need to even answer the thing about picks and TDs unless the TDs and INTs are equal or something.

Basically, QB rating is near-meaningless because no one here would argue Brady in 2001-2003 was only marginally better than Campbell is, yet his rating was in the 80s. Only in 2004 did it hit 92+. But he never threw less than 23 TDs in his career except 2001, when he didn't start the entire season. His receivers in this time--none of them were equal to Moss. And I think you could make the argument that ARE, with a GOOD QB, and our young pups at wideout are at least equivalent to a Givens or Patten.

Campbell had an 89 rating in the Cincy game, an awful performance. Yet I'm to believe that the QB rating is what matters and not my own damn eyes.

[jnhay]

Thanks for stating the obvious PFT. Who wouldn't be mad in this situation?

This is what Jason needs to understand:

Nobody cares if he's pissed, and he knows it. He hasn't shown us that much yet. While I still believe he deserves another year to prove himself, he knows that it's best to work hard and prove the naysayers wrong because if he did what Cutler did there wouldn't be much of a market for him.

He doesn't seem like the kind of person who would ***** and whine like Cutler either way though. Of course, I don't know him personally, but his track record shows that to me.

[prufRock]

One thing missing here is that the PFT article implies that if Campbell had thrown the ball as many times as Cutler did last year, he'd have comparable TD and yardage stats, which is incorrect. Campbell's TD ratio was much lower than Cutler's so adding another 100 or so passing attempts (the difference between Cutler and Campbell) won't automatically give Campbell 24 TDs. Campbell is simply less of a playmaker at this point in his career.

That doesn't mean Campbell can't lead a winning team. People rightly compare the starting records of Campbell (16-20) and Cutler (17-20) and inevitably, the counter-argument arises: the Broncos defense was much worse than the Skins. Living in Denver, I can tell you that while it's true that the Broncos defense wasn't very good, there were a number of games they lost because of turnovers. More specifically, Cutler's interceptions led directly to many of their losses. Two years ago, before he got hurt, one of the major knocks on Campbell was his propensity for turning the ball over and a lot of the team's losses were hung directly on him because of it. If Campbell's turnovers were bad, then so are Cutler's.

Don't get me wrong: Campbell HAS to improve, and the offense HAS to score more points. I'm not disputing that, but I think he deserves some credit for making good decisions with the football and keeping the team in games this past year because they probably wound up winning few more games because of it, and the Broncos probably wound up losing a few more games because of Cutler's turnovers.

[kevinklein]

I'll go on record right now and say that Campbell, barring injury or other unforeseen circumstances, will have a better year than Cutler.

[alwrld]

Note to Jason: we don't care if you are pissed. You are not a good QB, and you don't really deserve a starting spot. All other Redskin QBs have been replaced at some point and you will be to. Most of us want it sooner rather than later. Prove to me you are a great QB and this will change.

note to blogger with s*** for brains!

you're not a pro-scout STFU!

[Spear]

If anger was useful to Jason, he would have cultivated it and used it as a tool throughout his football career. He also wouldn't be the nice guy that everyone falls all over themselves to excuse.

And how much harder can he work? If he's already the hardest worker on the team, then he's just going to be bumping up against the law of diminishing returns.

As much preparation work as he puts in, you'd think that if he had any aptitude at all for the position, it would have paid off by now. But he's more or less the same quarterback who wastes the vast majority of big-play opportunities that present themselves. Either he doesn't see them, he's a beat late delivering the ball, or he botches the throw.

He's just not wired to be a good quarterback. He can eventually be solid, but so can a lot of guys, given the time we've invested in him.

[downbeat87]

right now JC is a game managing back up QB in the league. cant you read the writing on the wall? we tried extremely hard to trade for cutler, we supposedly offered JC for a 2nd rounder to another team, now were bringing in friggin byron leftwich for workouts, and we had a mark sanchez workout session.

this team doesnt want campbell, and its one of the smartest moves they can make.

you dont know **** about what snyder wants... other than him wanting cutler. there isnt 20 jay cutlers in the nfl, and jason is much more than just a managing back up, you cant act like you know the vbe about jason from trade rumours.

jason was much more than a managing qb the first 8 games.

[Voice_of_Reason]

*throws 5 yard dump on 3rd and 12*

- jason campbell

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Because Moss was double covered, Cooley was in blocking, ARE was completely covered by my little sister, and a DE ran right by Jansen and JC had to get rid of the ball.

I really want to know: how can you throw a 12 yard completion to somebody who's completely covered from your back.

Sure, JC missed some opportunities. He missed some throws that he should make. But to always assume that there's somebody to throw the ball to on 3-12 at the 1st down marker is silly. I go to the games, and I watch them pretty intently, and I can absolutely say for a fact that our WRs get NO separation from anybody. You can't really tell that from TV.

Hopefully this year MK and DT will provide a few more options, and Zorn finds the second page of the playbook.

[pgitta]

Finally. His first feeling.

We're making progress.

[Big Mac Patty Wack]

If he is that's just too bad. Football is a business, not a self-esteem boost camp.

[ArmchairRedskin]

I'll go on record right now and say that Campbell, barring injury or other unforeseen circumstances, will have a better year than Cutler.

Define better year. Because even with their no name receivers, Orton still threw for 18 TD's and they had 20 passing TD's in all. We scored fewer points than the Lions. That's with guys like Moss, Portis and Cooley giving very good performances.

[Jimbo]

I hope he's pissed. He really needs to have a "show the world" attitude. Maybe it will manifest itself into a playoff appearance. It's an option year for him so it's pretty much the turning point of his career. He either shines and gets a new, hefy contract from someone or he becomes a career backup. It's all up to him and Zorn now.

[Brandon Lloyd Christmas]

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Because Moss was double covered, Cooley was in blocking, ARE was completely covered by my little sister, and a DE ran right by Jansen and JC had to get rid of the ball.

I really want to know: how can you throw a 12 yard completion to somebody who's completely covered from your back.

Sure, JC missed some opportunities. He missed some throws that he should make. But to always assume that there's somebody to throw the ball to on 3-12 at the 1st down marker is silly. I go to the games, and I watch them pretty intently, and I can absolutely say for a fact that our WRs get NO separation from anybody. You can't really tell that from TV.

Hopefully this year MK and DT will provide a few more options, and Zorn finds the second page of the playbook.

right, its always everyone elses fault. lets just replace 10 guys instead of our weak quarterback.

and you should watch some games, he was not on his back that much. if you remove the steelers game where he was admittedly on his back, the team would have allowed 31 sacks, which is in the middle of the pack for sacks allowed.

and also, we had the 4th rusher in the NFL, and these teams got sacked more than we did:

SF

DET

CIN

PITT

NWE

STL

MIN

JAX

OAK

cincy, oakland, stl were the only 3 teams that scored less than us in that list, yet got sacked more. congrats, campbell is as good as ryan fitzpatrick and jamarcus russel. im so excited!

[kevinklein]

Define better year. Because even with their no name receivers, Orton still threw for 18 TD's and they had 20 passing TD's in all. We scored fewer points than the Lions. That's with guys like Moss, Portis and Cooley giving very good performances.

More wins. More efficient passer. Better game manager.

Campbell has the tools, this is the year for it to come together. I suppose I should add a disclaimer to my prediction, and say that I firmly believe he'll have the better year IF we don't do something stupid like draft Rey Muagaluga. We draft and OT, and I stand by my claim.

[Ghost of]

jason was much more than a managing qb the first 8 games.

No, he wasn't. Otherwise he'd have had more than 8 TDs in 8 games. And been more than leading us to what would have been 24th in points, dude, WITH Portis tearing it up. We were on our way down before we even started losing a bunch too. Our passing offense was putrid for the most part.

[Dondrae474]

People on this board make me sick when it comes to JC. His numbers were comparable to Cutler's last season and people cry for Cutler but argue that JC sucks. Give me a break.

[SirClintonPortis]

If anger was useful to Jason, he would have cultivated it and used it as a tool throughout his football career. He also wouldn't be the nice guy that everyone falls all over themselves to excuse.

And how much harder can he work? If he's already the hardest worker on the team, then he's just going to be bumping up against the law of diminishing returns.

As much preparation work as he puts in, you'd think that if he had any aptitude at all for the position, it would have paid off by now. But he's more or less the same quarterback who wastes the vast majority of big-play opportunities that present themselves. Either he doesn't see them, he's a beat late delivering the ball, or he botches the throw.

He's just not wired to be a good quarterback. He can eventually be solid, but so can a lot of guys, given the time we've invested in him.

First years of 'successful' WCO QBs are either uneventful or they produce stat sheets that are certainly not pretty. Then there is a significant spurt of production in the second years or them starting.

[Ghost of]

IF we don't do something stupid like draft Rey Muagaluga. We draft and OT, and I stand by my claim.

Yeah, that one offensive tackle will make the difference.

Not being a good QB or anything. Of course, when you're in a make believe world that RT was the real cause of our decline and not teams learning from Jason's own mouth that he was only reading on side of the field after the snap because ZOrn had to simplify it, and shutting things down based on that, then I guess it makes sense.

You'll have an excuse ready-made then, won't you. Or if that new RT goes down with an injury.

"Campbell didn't have a chance, four guys on our line made the Pro Bowl but he only had 6.4 YPA average because of that RT."

Nevermind that Todd Collins was rolling with Fabini out there or that other QBs have been sacked more or similar rates, like Joey T and done far more with an offense.

[bubba9497]

Define better year.

better