philal0102 Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 The most needed upgrade we need is RT. We can wait for OLB, and DE till next year. At #13 Michael Oher, or Andre Smith are the way to go. This is by far the biggest need, and the one piece that needs to be fixed for this offense to run right. Danny, if I can realize you have a good QB, great RB, Good TE, good LT, good LG, Good C, good RG, bad RT, and a few good WRs, why can't you? If we draft of these guys we will have a great year, and solid years to come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justsomeguy Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 SLB is a point of major concern as well though I think I would draft RT if the right one is there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikie Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 agree that SLB and RT are our biggest needs... I trust blanche a lot more to find a way to compensate for a weak SLB than I do zorn and JC a subpar RT...our O was just pitiful last year, we have to do whatever it takes to get more than 18 points a game.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins2473 Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Oher and Smith will be gone and there is no other tackle prospect worthy of the 13th pick. SLB or DE will be the best values left of need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stew Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 We don't have a few good recievers... we just don't. We have one good one, and a bunch of average journeymen... in my eyes at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Redskins Fan Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 i do not know why everyone thinks oher or smith will be gone 1. Stafford 2. j smith or sanchez 3. curry 4. sanchez 5. orpako or crabtree 6. orpako, monroe or raji 7. crabtree, maclin or m. johson or a.smith or heyward bey (it is undead al so he is tough to predict) Also they just signed Khalif barnes and still high on Mario henderson there right tackle 8. chris wells, sanchez, maclin , crabtree 9. maybin, everette brown , raji and maybe andre smith.. the packers conservative nature makes me think a.smith is not on their draft board 10. sanchez, maybin, oher, a.smith Rey Maualuga, with the signing of marvel smith and they have joe stalley on the left, the need for a day one tackle went to down considerably 11. maybin, brown or Ayers Bills neeed pas rush help 12. I think the broncos are goign to rebuild there d as always in the draft some rises and falls an someone goes in the top 10 you do not expect I believe oher or smith will be at 13 imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pedro Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 It is a simple draft. A starting calibre RT and a decent OLB in that order. Low picks can be used for a CB who needs time and Teams. I'd be happy to start the season with that. Got to be a good time to give a young LBer some game time. Gonna be tough to run on a DL of Daniels/Griffen/Haynesworth/Carter. Their backups all play the run well too. Good group of young DBs behind them too. We don't need a super star LBer (though we would have a sick D if we got one...). Conversely we need a RT who can play now or we either aren't running right or our RB and TE are being used in protection instead of production. No point paying all these dollars to pass catchers if you aren't going to give your QB a line to play behind. I don't understand how The Danny couldn't see it. EDIT: I agree with the guy above ^. There will be a RT when the 13th pick is called. Question is why aren't we sitting pat to see who it is and drafting a potential cure for the single biggest reason our O sucked ass at times last season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead Money Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Anybody interested in a Guard/Center?? I still think thats the weak spot. Thomas is on the outs and Rabach is clearly not what we need him to be. I know Buges likes him but the Heyer/Jansen thing should work out, its the interior of the line thats suspect now. Can Kendall play right guard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottishskinsfan Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 I don't think it really is as straight forward as drafting a OL guy. Our defence could be completly formidable with another 1st round pick on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Rich Fla Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Danny, if I can realize you have a good QB, great RB, Good TE, good LT, good LG, Good C, good RG, bad RT, and a few good WRs, why can't you? What do you see in our QB that all the other coaches in the NFL do not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tex Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 vinny will probably trade down to stockpile 2nd rd picks then use them to get some super raw receivers with bad knees and bad study habits. He might even use a 3rd round pick on a OT good for carrying water buckets. Wait a minute, that was last year. at least we won't have to watch shrimpy and vinny waste this years 2nd rounder. they've already got that covered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 I think thomas salary makes him uncuttable, but I'd not be opposed to drafting Alex Mack if the OT is not there we want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboomking Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Michael Oher worries me with his inconsistency. One let down every other game for 5 offensive linemen is 40 sacks a year, plus whatever the tight end and backs give up. I was worried about his intelligence, but with a wonderlic of 19, it would seem that he at least has avg intelligence. I'll probably get hung from the rafters for saying this, but I honestly think out best option is to trade up. From #13 to #9(greenbay) is about the value of our 3rd rounder. While other temas might have made some good choices, I can't recall our most recent impact player chosen in the 3rd round. The difference between #9 and #13 could be the difference between choosing from Raji, A Smith, and Oher, or Maualuga. Smith in my mind could take our O-line from below avg to very good and would be the most logical choice based on our needs. My personal favorite however would be to choose Raji. Pairing Raji with Haynesworth would give us the most dominating interior line in the league, protect our linebackers, and offer a pass rush. Haynesworth had, what, 8 sacks last year while being constantly double teamed. Raji had, I think, 7.5 last year at BC, while also being a dominating run stuffer. Fletcher would have a free run, hopefully Mcintosh's knee is recovered, and plug a body in at SLB. I really feel like our defense would go from a top 5, bend but don't break defense, to a punishing, top 3 defense which creates turnovers and scores. Look at Pittsburg's offensive line, no better than ours, and probably worse. Their receivers are probably comparable, running back not as good, better quarterback, but more a game manager than 300ypg gamebreaker. Add Raji, sign an OT such as Tauscher for depth. Draft OG and LB 5th round through 7th round. This could be a team that goes deep into the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Redskins Fan Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Michael Oher worries me with his inconsistency. One let down every other game for 5 offensive linemen is 40 sacks a year, plus whatever the tight end and backs give up. I was worried about his intelligence, but with a wonderlic of 19, it would seem that he at least has avg intelligence. I'll probably get hung from the rafters for saying this, but I honestly think out best option is to trade up. From #13 to #9(greenbay) is about the value of our 3rd rounder. While other temas might have made some good choices, I can't recall our most recent impact player chosen in the 3rd round. The difference between #9 and #13 could be the difference between choosing from Raji, A Smith, and Oher, or Maualuga. Smith in my mind could take our O-line from below avg to very good and would be the most logical choice based on our needs. My personal favorite however would be to choose Raji. Pairing Raji with Haynesworth would give us the most dominating interior line in the league, protect our linebackers, and offer a pass rush. Haynesworth had, what, 8 sacks last year while being constantly double teamed. Raji had, I think, 7.5 last year at BC, while also being a dominating run stuffer. Fletcher would have a free run, hopefully Mcintosh's knee is recovered, and plug a body in at SLB. I really feel like our defense would go from a top 5, bend but don't break defense, to a punishing, top 3 defense which creates turnovers and scores. Look at Pittsburg's offensive line, no better than ours, and probably worse. Their receivers are probably comparable, running back not as good, better quarterback, but more a game manager than 300ypg gamebreaker. Add Raji, sign an OT such as Tauscher for depth. Draft OG and LB 5th round through 7th round. This could be a team that goes deep into the playoffs. the redskins will have to give up more than a 3rd round pick and 13, after the cutler debacle everyone knows the skins will give up anything and everything.. Ted Thompson will lack of a better word rape the skins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 I think thomas salary makes him uncuttable, but I'd not be opposed to drafting Alex Mack if the OT is not there we want. But not Mack at #13 right? Too high for him there. If we trade down to the very bottom of the 1st or maybe a couple of 2nds then Mack would be a good pick. I'm hoping Smith falls to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 I would have to say LB is the biggest concern. If the season started today, the starters would be McIntosh, Fletcher, Blades. The only backup we have is Fincher. Blades is not ready to start yet, and is better suited for the middle anyways. McIntosh still has knee concerns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky52Mc Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 I think some of the talks that Thomas is slipping will all be forgotten if we just get a good RT to play along with him, that being said we need a C as well. I wouldn't mind Heyer starting and trading back to draft Alex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexxskins Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 Anybody interested in a Guard/Center?? I still think thats the weak spot. Thomas is on the outs and Rabach is clearly not what we need him to be. I know Buges likes him but the Heyer/Jansen thing should work out, its the interior of the line thats suspect now. Can Kendall play right guard?Next to Samuels; who is our best o-lineman? Yeper, it's Thomas. I agree that Rabach needs to be replaced. I'm sick of seeing Ratliff an company abuse him twice a year. But, RT is where our QB is getting pressure from on a consistant basis. RT should be our main concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoudMouth12thMan Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 I'm not sure this is the easiest pick at all. For one, they may not even pick at the #13 spot. They may trade to get more picks. Plus, Heyer played quite well at RT in the first few games before he got nicked up. Yes he is a bit of an uncertainty at the RT position, but I wouldn't count him out as a starter this year. Don't be surprised if they trade down or get a "stud" DL or OLB in the 1st round. I think that they are hoping to turn this D into a 2000 Ravens look-a-like. I love how some of you guys/gals aren't seeing the trend here. Clearly, the Skins FO and coaching staff know that their strengths lie in their ability to consistently have a top 10 defense (on and off in the last few years). It's about time they woke up! I believe that they are trying to stack this defense with talented, elite, players at multiple positions. As a result, they are hoping to create a defense that creates scoring and turnover opportunities every time they step on the field. Actually, one of the coaches or FO guys said something to that effect when they signed Haynesworth and Hall. By bolstering the defense with a guy like Orakpo, or any of the three top tier OLB, or possibly Raji, etc, they would add youth to a defense that is starting to have a nice balance of young, explosive, talented players mixed with smart, capable, experienced veterans, not to mention that some of those veterans still have a lot left "in the tank" (to use a cliche'). They could go either way, but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they picked a DL or OLB in the 1st round. That would make Heyer the frontrunner for the RT position going into the season. Quite honestly, I have been of the mindset that they definitely need to draft a RT, but the more I think about it, I'm not sure that RT (Heyer) was the weakest position on the OL last year. I think that injuries played a major factor as did age of the players. With Dockery, Heyer, and a lot of veteran backups for depth, I think that the O line will be healthier and much more fresh from game to game. RT is not necessarily a position that they need to address in the 1st round. They could trade back and pick up a OT or OG and get a DL or OLB in the late 1st and mid second. I believe that is what they will do if Orakpo, Raji, or the two "surefire" OT's are gone. Even if one of the OT's is there at #13, I have a hunch they'll still trade back if that defensive guy isn't on there board at #13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiger187126 Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 What do you see in our QB that all the other coaches in the NFL do not? what do you see in colt brennan that all other NFL coaches do not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flexxskins Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 What do you see in our QB that all the other coaches in the NFL do not?OMG, does every thread have to include how someone feels about Jason Campbell? Wow, this thread has nothing to do with our QB. Let it go for a few minutes.We get it...you don't like Jason Campbell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theboomking Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 I'm not sure we can rely on thomas. He has had multiple year ending surgeries and did not seem like the same player last year. Thomas is now coming off of a major neck surgery. Although I would like to move up, I'm impulsive and would make a poor GM. The odds are good that either Oher, Smith, or Raji, will fall to #13. Even if Raji only tested positive for pineapple express, he also tested positive in college and lost a year do to academic ineligibility. There is a chance that he could fall due to character concerns.I actually think he is a higher character risk than smith. We all know that with Smith's combine disappearance and interviews, and workouts, that there is a chance he could fall. If Orakpo, A Smith, Oher and Raji are all gone, I really think we need to trade back. Maybin is too high a risk with his one year of college production and size, cushing has too great an injury hx-smells like dan morgan all over again, Matthews has only one year of production. If we stay put, and can't draft OT or DT, I prefer Maualuga. Our most logical choice, not my favorite, may be OT at #13, OG in Rd 3.There is likely to be a very serviceable guard available in the 3rd round, perhaps even Duke Robinson who was projected as a #1 at one point. Honestly, although we would be talking about moving from the 3rd to the 2nd round, I would love to get the OC Wood. He played well against Raji in the senior bowl, had 30 reps at 225, a 30 inch vertical, has size, can play guard or center, and is rising up draft boards. I know I am all over the place, but A Smith and Wood would go a long way to shoring up both our run blocking and pass blocking game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba9497 Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 draft Smoot some fat boys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 The "4 OTs" in this Draft are considerably overrated and do not come close to the quality of guys like Thomas or Long of prior Drafts! Both ASmith and MOher are no better at this stage than Heyer or Fabini ... they are projects and will not start immediately. The Skins must Draft a starter at 13 or trade down for depth. Its ludicrous how many fans on this site think that by "drafting one of the OTs" the Skins OL will be improved. You are in fantasyland Kiperites! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK PHILLIPS Posted April 4, 2009 Share Posted April 4, 2009 I'm feelin drafting O Line also. Hey, our D finished 4th in the league last season, and the 3 guys we lost, Springs, Washington, and Taylor, were hurt most of the time anyway. We upgraded the D line with Hanyesworth, Wynn, and Daniels, and Blades will be fine at LB. Redskins D this season looks like another top 10 D to me already. Draft an O lineman, protect the QB, let these young receivers develop, and everyone else do what you been doing and lets make a run at the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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