Has Dan Snyder's pursuit of Cutler damaged the 2009 season if things don't go well?

[88Comrade2000]

Has Dan Snyder's pursuit of Cutler damaged the 2009 season if things don't go well?

I won't bring Vinny into this because this wasn't a Vinny move. Our pursuit of Cutler was all Snyder our real GM.

Winning cures everything. If we win and go to the playoffs, all will be forgotten and Jason will get his long term contract either from the Skins or someone else.

What could be damaging to our 2009 season is if things don't go well this season. Everyone knows the owner doesn't believe in Jason. If Jason stinks up the joint, he will be benched. The players will basically give up on the season. The know the owner won't care for the QB and by extension the head coach will be in jeopardy. Knowing things could change in 2010; our players won't really care and just pick up the paycheck.

On the flipside, everyone could pull together to show Dan that Jason is man who should be the long term QB of the Redskins.

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I still think we may pursue Sanchez. I don't think Jason has earned the right to be the starter. He should have to compete with Colt in training camp. If Jason wants the starting job with the Skins and to have a long term career here; then let him prove it.

[Art]

If you were inclined to be cynical, the FO has put Zorn on the hook for Campbell. Win with him, or get fired and replaced by Shanahan or Holmgren or whoever. I'm not cynical, but, for the haters, there's your story.

[88Comrade2000]

If you were inclined to be cynical, the FO has put Zorn on the hook for Campbell. Win with him, or get fired and replaced by Shanahan or Holmgren or whoever. I'm not cynical, but, for the haters, there's your story.

Actually, they should've let Zorn decide last year if he felt Jason was the right fit. Jason's backer is no longer with the team.

[Thirtyfive2seven]

No. Not even a little bit. The players play the game. It is in campbells own best interest to play well in a contract year. Do you think he's going to suck it up because there were trade rumors in the off season? I don't think there is any damage aside from the norm around redskins park when it comes to their feelings on Vinny and Dan.

[SkinsHokieFan]

I think we all know this team, at its core, is pretty rotten.

There is no foundation, and in pro sports a solid foundation is built from the top down. The owner brings in the right people, the owner provides the resources needed to them, they do the job in bringing in the right coaches and players and the players win on the field

This is not a solid organization, not even close. There is no long term plan, no goal of improving each year until the team is a title contender. It is always the quick fix, the "sexy" pick, the lets grab headlines in the spring when season ticket orders are due.

Until the team changes its philosophy at its core, every season is damaged

[Rdskn4Lyf21]

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[Taylor 36]

I actually think it is a good thing for this team. I'm tired of fans and coaches treating JC like a child and getting worried about his feelings. The guy is not held to standards that other QB's are held to. He doesn't have to compete for his job. THAT is where this offense is broken.

Now, JC has to realize that this organization isn't going to back him and allow him to be the uncontested starter if he doesn't step it up. Explain to me how that's a bad thing for our QB to feel the heat and have to prove himself?

[Horatio]

Snyderatto have screwed this team. Campbell may or may not have a great season, but he will darn sure not sign on for another season with this team. He has all the incentive in the world to go out and play well...so he can go to a team that actually appreciates him.

Snyderatto have shown that their word means NOTHING. From saying Jason Taylor will stay and they had no interest in Cutler...who can believe anything these clowns say?

They have eroded the loyalty on this team.

[Boss_Hogg]

So Coach Zorn goes on the record and says "Jason Campbell is our man, he will be our QB for 2009."

Then Snyderrato tries to pull some damning three way trade that would have potentially lost 1st round draft picks for Cutler.

Sounds to me that Snyderrato are the real coaches of this team.

[KevinthePRF]

Has Dan Snyder's pursuit of Cutler damaged the 2009 season if things don't go well?

I won't bring Vinny into this because this wasn't a Vinny move. Our pursuit of Cutler was all Snyder our real GM.

Link? Or just your opinion?

To answer the initial question, no more than usual. Our front office does something every offseason to jeapordize the team chemistry from the year before.

[ECU-ALUM]

So Coach Zorn goes on the record and says "Jason Campbell is our man, he will be our QB for 2009."

Then Snyderrato tries to pull some damning three way trade that would have potentially lost 1st round draft picks for Cutler.

Sounds to me that Snyderrato are the real coaches of this team.

Too true...and if Zorn gets fired at the end of this coming season who is goign to want to come here with Snyderatto pulling this crap.

[Rocky21]

Has Dan Snyder's pursuit of Cutler damaged the 2009 season if things don't go well?

Is this a joke? Or a trick question?

[Probos]

I think we all know this team, at its core, is pretty rotten.

There is no foundation, and in pro sports a solid foundation is built from the top down. The owner brings in the right people, the owner provides the resources needed to them, they do the job in bringing in the right coaches and players and the players win on the field

This is not a solid organization, not even close. There is no long term plan, no goal of improving each year until the team is a title contender. It is always the quick fix, the "sexy" pick, the lets grab headlines in the spring when season ticket orders are due.

Until the team changes its philosophy at its core, every season is damaged

I could not have said it better myself. 100% spot on with your analysis.

In the immediate wake of Culter-fever I'm sure Jason is feeling a bit unwanted. But I'm sure he'll get past it, be a professional and play as well as he can. It's in his best interest to since it's a contract year. But overall I'm sure it's damaged any loyalty he had for the Redskin's organization. If he has a good year and he'll be offered a contract by either the Skins or another team. Personally, I'm rooting big time for him, and I hope he does well.

[KevinthePRF]

Too true...and if Zorn gets fired at the end of this coming season who is goign to want to come here with Snyderatto pulling this crap.

This question can be asked dating back to Norv Turner. Suprisingly there is always a new punching bag ready to step up to the plate.

[Boss_Hogg]

Very true, Snyderrato could not mess with Joe Gibbs because he is a living legend. But now Papa Joe is gone Snyderrato can run things into the ground like they have in the past.

[youngestson]

I think we all know this team, at its core, is pretty rotten.

There is no foundation, and in pro sports a solid foundation is built from the top down. The owner brings in the right people, the owner provides the resources needed to them, they do the job in bringing in the right coaches and players and the players win on the field

This is not a solid organization, not even close. There is no long term plan, no goal of improving each year until the team is a title contender. It is always the quick fix, the "sexy" pick, the lets grab headlines in the spring when season ticket orders are due.

Until the team changes its philosophy at its core, every season is damaged

I don't see how anyone could disagree with this. Or how I could add to it.

Perfect description.

[ECU-ALUM]

Very true, Snyderrato could not mess with Joe Gibbs because he is a living legend. But now Papa Joe is gone Snyderrato can run things into the ground like they have in the past.

You're so right about that one Boss...I look at Zorn now and think, "If this was 'The Godfather' your name would be Fredo."

[jivelikenice]

I'm actually encouraged. Campbell is very even keel which helps to some degree but also has held him back in come regards. He has a massive chip on his shoulder and is in a contract year so this is it for him....Put up or shut up....This is the 2nd year in the system so nobody is going to care about the leanring curve or the multiple systems and its on him now.....I'm hoping this brings seom fire out of the dude...

[ECU-ALUM]

This question can be asked dating back to Norv Turner. Suprisingly there is always a new punching bag ready to step up to the plate.

That's what worries me...we'll get another punching bag...and not a coach like Marty who fired Vinny and told Dan to sit down and shut-up.

[PROSCOUT]

If you were inclined to be cynical, the FO has put Zorn on the hook for Campbell. Win with him, or get fired and replaced by Shanahan or Holmgren or whoever. I'm not cynical, but, for the haters, there's your story.

Art, this should be the most obvious fact to all on this board, and in fact, THIS SHOULD BE the story. People are wasting time talking about who's better, Orton or Campbell? Knuckleheads are spending hours here discussing why why Brady Quinn is considered better than Jason Campbell. It's junk, thats what all that talk is, its useless and pointless and does NOT affect the Skins.

What does affect the Skins is the aftermath and the point you have made. The Redksins will either go to the playoffs or they won't but I am not certain if Zorns job will be secure either way. I would like to hear your thoughts on that.

Remember, Marty finished 8-8 on a winning note and was still replaced for Snyders guy Spurrier. Is it still possible that the Skins finish 10-6, the offense gets going, and Bill Cower or Shanahan STILL come in here and possibly Zorn is demoted to offensive coordinator?

[redman]

If you were inclined to be cynical, the FO has put Zorn on the hook for Campbell. Win with him, or get fired and replaced by Shanahan or Holmgren or whoever. I'm not cynical, but, for the haters, there's your story.

I agree with this, but you could have said this a year ago. Zorn was hired primarily because (after the other "preferred candidates declined of course) he was the best guy to develop Campbell and the offense. As they go, Zorn goes.

[Thirtyfive2seven]

Remember, Marty finished 8-8 on a winning note and was still replaced for Snyders guy Spurrier. Is it still possible that the Skins finish 10-6, the offense gets going, and Bill Cower or Shanahan STILL come in here and possibly Zorn is demoted to offensive coordinator?

I have to admit, as much as I wanted Cutler here this statement is scary. Think about it everyone. Zorn and Campbell could end up having a very productive season and miss the playoffs.

Lets say for arguments sake, the offense shows signs of life and the skins win their final 5 games to finish something like 9-7 or even 10-6.

Holmgren, Shanhan, and Cowher are all on the market and express an interest in coaching for the 2010 season.

Danny would find a way to fire Zorn and hire one of these coaches despite an improvement. That's frightening.