Coach Janky Spanky Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I'm getting sick of the reassuring that baby needs. What are you talking about?!?!? Jason Campbell has been nothing short of classy throughout this whole endeavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirClintonPortis Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Seneca Wallace and Tarvaris Jackson are the greatest QBs to grace the NFL.Seneca Wallace - 11 TD and ONLY 3 INT!!!!! That look good? Check out Tarvaris Jackson.... 9 TD and TWO ONLY TWO INT Neither of them played a full season. Find some other QBs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 guys, were in good hands. jason candle is classy. i cannot believe the standards for QB play are this low around here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_R Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 What are you talking about?!?!?Jason Campbell has been nothing short of classy throughout this whole endeavor. I was referring to the times when the FO would state that Campbell was the unconditioned starter (to build his confidence). These times include: after Collins did that 4 game winning streak, after that season ended, the last preseason, and this offseason. Not to mention, he had to "heal his psyche" because of the criticism he received during the '08 season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Neither of them played a full season. Find some other QBs. well campbell's only played one right? id take seneca wallace over campbell. at least he can run fast. i wouldnt take T jackson though. hes terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilsu Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Neither of them played a full season. Find some other QBs. I thought that was supposed to be an excuse for some other unnamed quarterbacks, not something to be used as a detriment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavarleap56 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Still doing this :gus: Whatever some of the people are on sometimes pm it me please im depressed. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Guess who posted these stats: G Att Comp Pct Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD TD% Int Int% Lng 20+ 40+ Sck SckY Rate 16 467 297 63.6 29.2 3,497 7.5 218.6 20 4.3 14 3.0 68T 41 7 27 153 88.1 Looks like Big Ben. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dana87 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Give me a break :doh:If they had any commitment or confidence in Campbell they wouldn't have tried to trade him. He is not stupid, he knows this. I completely disagree. I believe you can have a certain amount of confidence in a player but also recognize a possible upgrade when you see it. Case in point in a very similar situation in 1992 the Redskins had a young QB that had not yet proved himself in Mark Rypien. The Redskins saw an opportunity to upgrade at QB and came close to trading for John Elway. Just like the Cutler trade it ended up going south. Rypien went on to have a career year and lead the Redskins to the Super Bowl. And in 1987 The Redskins were going to trade Doug Williams to the Raiders before Gibbs changed his mind at the last minute. Coincidently Williams won the Super Bowl that year as well. I like Jason Campbell as our QB, but exactly what has he done to warrant a ton of confidence. Answer not a lot. Last year he was solid for the first half of the season but what did he do down the stretch. IMO if you have the very rare chance to land an elite young QB, coming into his prime, you take it. If it doesn't work out you continue to try to develope the guy you drafted and hope he proves you right for drafting him in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I thought that was supposed to be an excuse for some other unnamed quarterbacks, not something to be used as a detriment. i wouldnt worry dude, jason is gonna be like joe montana. their development is the same, it said so on the front page of ES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirClintonPortis Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I thought that was supposed to be an excuse for some other unnamed quarterbacks, not something to be used as a detriment. 2 Ints in 5 games started and 9 games total is easy to do. Howeverm 149 attempts is much less than the 506 by Jason 3 Ints in 10 games and 8 games is a little harder to do, but 242 attempts is yet again much less than 506. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilsu Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 2 Ints in 5 games started and 9 games total is easy to do. Howeverm 149 attempts is much less than the 506 by Jason3 Ints in 10 games and 8 games is a little harder to do, but 242 attempts is yet again much less than 506. Come on. Tarvaris Jackson hasn't even started a full season yet. He's only had 19 starts. NINETEEN! You gotta give him a chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirClintonPortis Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Looks like Big Ben. It's actually Jay Cutler in 2007. He'd kinda got screwed over when Javon Walker couldn't make it the whole season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Lloyd Christmas Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Come on. Tarvaris Jackson hasn't even started a full season yet. He's only had 19 starts. NINETEEN! You gotta give him a chance. i cant believe so many people would write off tavaris jackson after only 19 starts. i mean, you gotta give a guy at least 36, or in our fan bases case, around 52. how do the vikings even know what they have?? i say start him 3 years in that system, and if hes still not producing, come up with a giant list of stupid excuses and continue to start him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_R Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 2 Ints in 5 games started and 9 games total is easy to do. Howeverm 149 attempts is much less than the 506 by Jason3 Ints in 10 games and 8 games is a little harder to do, but 242 attempts is yet again much less than 506. They're a run first offense. They don't need Jackson to throw the ball that much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 What has really been revealed this week is that Zorn is #3 in the pecking order at Redskins Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter_R Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 What has really been revealed this week is that Zorn is #3 in the pecking order at Redskins Park. Who's above him? Snyder, Vinny, and Portis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondog Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 say what?cocaine is a hell of a drug ... hahaha word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eljeasel Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 yes i let him walk. hes never going to be a top flight quarterback. 18 TDs and 10-6 is not what i want this team to be. i want this team to be a possible 13-3, ya know, really good? why some of you are so exciteda bout 10-6 is beyond me.i bet some of the "old timers" (excuse me fellas!) will tell you that back in the day 10-6 was considered par for the course, hardly anything to get excited about. now all anyone wants is to go 10-6. This has so many of my football pet peeves contained in one its not even funny. "Hell never be a top flight QB" - because thats what it takes to win a SB. Eli, Ben, Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Doug Williams, Mark Rypien, Phil Simms/Hostedler (SP), Aikman (thanks for pointing that out Thinking Skins), and a host of other superbowl ring wearing above average QBs all wave hello. I dont believe in the myth of the QB. I believe in a team. If you want to beleive fantasy stats will win you the ring, go for it. Someone on here mentioned at 18 TDs it would have to depend on how Campbell played. I think thats a fair qualifications, if we won with 18 gamewining TD passes, its plain stupid to not resign him. For what? What cure all QB will you bring in? Cassell? McNabb? Or a rookie? If we chugged along and won despite Campbell, yeah, you let him walk. Thats dumb not to let him walk. 10 wins. Its not fantastic. But I wasnt saying 10 wins as the ultimate goal here. I was saying 10 wins for next year. Everyones goal is the title, the division, undefeated, every damn thing on earth. But you would let a 28 year old QB walk who just took you to the playoffs? Cause he wont win your fantasy league for you? Of course I would want that to be the base, Id want more from that. See if we couldnt get that thing up to 11+ wins. Heres what 10 wins could have done even this year. A ticket to the 2nd season. We would have leapfroged the Eagles and played the Vikes away. Id take that matchup. Let me remind you that both of the teams in the NFC Championship were single digit win teams. So I wouldnt be so quick to scoff at 10 wins. Who knows, 10 wins might win you the division next year. To go a little further with these 2 points (10 wins is actually solid, TD passes thrown is largely irrelevant) Ill take the last few years and show you the win totals and the TD passes thrown along with ints. 12 wins, 17 TDs, 15 INTs 10 wins, 23 TDs, 20 INTs 12 wins, 31 TDs, 9 INTs 11 wins, 17 TDs, 9 INTs 10 wins could win you it all. I dont really see the difference between 9 wins or 16 if they all get you into the playoffs. Yeah you want homefield and you want the bye week but 2 of the last 4 SB winners have been wild card teams. Id take a 10 win team thats building up momentum over a 13 win team that took off the last few weeks of the season. I also notice 3 of the last 4 superbowl winners had QBs who threw under 25 TDs. And finally that old timers remark confuses me. Youre a young head. Why are you making "old timers" remarks. The "old timers" would have to remember winning 3 seperate superbowls without the "elite" QB though Id have to argue Joey T is pretty close. Theyd also have to Remember winning the 87 trophy with an 11 win team. Without a legit starting QB much less a elite QB. SO please, come off that crap about you need a fantasy QB throwing 5000 yards and 35 TDs per season. Its not true. And please, dont say I dont understand whats good and whats not as far as what a successfull season. My eyes are turned to building a contender for multiple years no matter how ugly it wins, not how many TDs my QB can throw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROSCOUT Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I think the failure to get Cutler will have ripples with the organization in a good way. Ironically, it will be the failure to get Cutler which will help the team come together even more, and rally around Campbell (particular the offensive players and coaching staff). If they don't get rid of Campbell and let him play, I think he will perform this year. I believe you are right. This will work out better for us as a team. In fact the Skins should be HUNGRIER than last year after missing the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiro Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I'm getting sick of the reassuring that baby needs. You seem to have misread it. Zorn, Dan, and Vinny decided for themselves to reassure him. No where in that quote did Jason pout about the possible trade or question if he was the QB for the future. He handled himself the way Cutler SHOULD'VE handled himself. Like a professional and a man. Not like a whiny little primadonna ***** who thinks he's above being traded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Dan and Vinny shouldn't reassure. Tell Jimmy, there will be an open competition in camp. Tell that to Jason too. Let Jason earn it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Redskins Fan Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 i'm callin it...JC eclipses all his career highs in stats this year, skins make the "paloffs" WE DON'T SIGN HIM my crystal ball say the same you play you pay..great one danny..good job here snyder..smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benskins26 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 i cant believe so many people would write off tavaris jackson after only 19 starts. i mean, you gotta give a guy at least 36, or in our fan bases case, around 52. how do the vikings even know what they have?? i say start him 3 years in that system, and if hes still not producing, come up with a giant list of stupid excuses and continue to start him. You gotta give him at least 52. Don't forget, he's got no receivers.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Redskins Fan Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 when Campbell said he plays for the 52 guys in the locker room and notice none of Cutlers team mates are saying that about him ..food for thought ..think about it Snyder will cater to him and make amends.. Snyder has always valued his public perception Synder has f****** up major here.. wBut I will say this watch the redskins make a splash on draft day ..watch Snyder will not take losing out on Cutler easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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