Thinking Skins Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Snyder's reputation is always going to trump any other story. Course, they have a lot of past history on their side with such things. Most of the reporters should have just stuck to their initial impressions that the Skins weren't going to do it, and why should they? But now I'm wondering if, like Art has said, this was all based on Snyder's rep. At first I was believing that and wasn't buying into it, but when everybody else was saying that we were interested, I started getting scaired (scarred). Normally I just ignore the hype, but I didn't want to go to bed last night and wake up with a new QB. You don't want to know how close I was to giving up on football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stophovr6 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 So he reported that the Redskins had interest, are you saying that he was wrong? Because I'm sure that will be how the FO tries to spin it now, that the Skins were NEVER trying to trade for Cutler and that the Post and the other MEDIA SLUGS got it completely wrong. :doh:Snyder probably wishes every fan was like you. I'm not saying either way. I'm saying I don't care what he says. I don't care how the FO tries to spin it. Every fan was like what? Mistrusting of media speculation? Don't care what Snyder wishes. I don't think you understood my first post. Try rereading it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfansince63 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I thought this was some of JLC best journalism he's done since being with the post. He was the first i heard to break the news of Cutler possibly coming to Washington. He then later updated saying that the redskins were making a very strong push to get cutler. Based on past business moves within the organization, I think that he was pretty justified in predicting that he would sign with us in the next day or two. Honestly, to me, it sounds to me that your just bitter we didnt sign Cutler. I think JLC did not have any information and has no sources in the Skins organization. I totally believe he lies like a rug!!!! I remember last year he was trying to report anything that would stir up trouble with the Skins. He does not get any inside information because nobody in the locker room trusts anything that comes out of his mouth. I don't pay any attention to anything he reports. If you go look up all the stories flying around today about this "deal" you would see that all of them cited the washington post as the source of the information. I will be so glad when the washington post goes out of business like all the other papers are doing and this butthead no longer has a job!!! It will serve him right for all the lies and bad reporting he has done to the Skins. HAIL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tr1 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 He's reporting on the most unpredictable and moronic FO outside of Oakland... he's perfect for his assignment. It's hard being a Skins fan these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PROSCOUT Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 THERE ARE TOO MANY THREADS ABOUT Jay Cutler and Jason Campbell and this QB trade stuff. This is rediculous and makes it difficult to post an intelligent thought because I don't know which one to respond too, so I guess I'll copy this and post it in all of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cruemans Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 But now I'm wondering if, like Art has said, this was all based on Snyder's rep. At first I was believing that and wasn't buying into it, but when everybody else was saying that we were interested, I started getting scaired (scarred). Normally I just ignore the hype, but I didn't want to go to bed last night and wake up with a new QB. You don't want to know how close I was to giving up on football. whew! At least that didn't happen! :hysterical: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 It's hard being a Skins fan these days. who you tellin? who you tellin :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 whew! At least that didn't happen! :hysterical: yeah, I know I would be missed around here. If you notice, I wasn't online when all this went down. I had to make sure this deal didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 I might have missed something, but what did JLC report incorrectly? When have I mentioned JLC in this thread? I will now. One thing JLC did do incorrectly is not talk to anyone with the team he covers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metskins Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 When have I mentioned JLC in this thread?I will now. One thing JLC did do incorrectly is not talk to anyone with the team he covers. How many people were involved with the decision at the park? Vinny and Danny, probably.....maybe one other.....? The coaching staff didn't seem to know. My point is that those in the know wouldn't have talked to him anyways. We all know the dynamic duo do their best to freeze out JLC, so he probably needs to explore other sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 How many people were involved with the decision at the park? Vinny and Danny, probably.....maybe one other.....? The coaching staff didn't seem to know. My point is that those in the know wouldn't have talked to him anyways. We all know the dynamic duo do their best to freeze out JLC, so he probably needs to explore other sources. Apparently people in Denver like talking. Is Washington so tight knit that no member of the press could get a single member in the know within the organization to tell them anything, off the record or not? Every single thing reported in the whole Cutler thing came from OUTSIDE the team. Isn't that strange? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Apparently people in Denver like talking. Is Washington so tight knit that no member of the press could get a single member in the know within the organization to tell them anything, off the record or not? Every single thing reported in the whole Cutler thing came from OUTSIDE the team.Isn't that strange? Do we know this? I know you may know this, but I'm not sure how I would know that since all is anonymous in today's NFL. Our FO sure hasn't seemed tight lipped over the past few years. EDIT: I didn't realize this was about JLC. Obviously he isn't getting any inside info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodiesel#44 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Threads about him on a fanboard do nothing but boost his popularity. He thanks you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metskins Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Apparently people in Denver like talking. Is Washington so tight knit that no member of the press could get a single member in the know within the organization to tell them anything, off the record or not? Every single thing reported in the whole Cutler thing came from OUTSIDE the team.Isn't that strange? It's a little strange until you look at the potential collateral damage that could have and DID occur when the trade didn't go through. I think the team keeping it close knit on their end allows them to deny culpability and put the blame on the muckracking press for all the "rumors". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Threads about him on a fanboard do nothing but boost his popularity. He thanks you. I think its even funnier when people say they'll never read another JLC article, only to come here and ask somebody else to read his article and summarize it for them. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Apparently people in Denver like talking. Is Washington so tight knit that no member of the press could get a single member in the know within the organization to tell them anything, off the record or not? Every single thing reported in the whole Cutler thing came from OUTSIDE the team.Isn't that strange? Strange? yes Impossible? No. I was under the impression that when there's smoke, there's fire. Now some of the smallest fires are known for producing a whole lot of smoke. So I don't know how involved the Redskins were - it could've been just trying to see what it would cost to get Cutler - but I find it hard to believe that some people like respected journalists (according to JimmiJo and Murf) would just report jibber jabber to have their names in print. As far as the going outside of Redskins park, Frank Henrahan was saying that they weren't talking to media today. And if they're known for lying anyway, why not try to find better sources? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkfan63 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Quit whining and stop reading his columns if it bothers you that much. Sheesh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 It's a little strange until you look at the potential collateral damage that could have and DID occur when the trade didn't go through. I think the team keeping it close knit on their end allows them to deny culpability and put the blame on the muckracking press for all the "rumors". There's been no damage at all since the trade with Chicago for Cutler took place. I'd be surprised if the team called in for Cutler. The team doesn't need to deny they checked in for Cutler to make a statement of reasonable intelligence on the matter. "When Denver announced they were trading their 25-year-old Pro Bowl quarterback who is under contract for three more seasons, we weighed our situation with Jason, entering his final season, and checked in to see what the price might be. When we heard, we were not that active in the experience, though we understand many came to that belief due to what people outside this organization were saying." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Strange? yesImpossible? No. I was under the impression that when there's smoke, there's fire. Now some of the smallest fires are known for producing a whole lot of smoke. So I don't know how involved the Redskins were - it could've been just trying to see what it would cost to get Cutler - but I find it hard to believe that some people like respected journalists (according to JimmiJo and Murf) would just report jibber jabber to have their names in print. As far as the going outside of Redskins park, Frank Henrahan was saying that they weren't talking to media today. And if they're known for lying anyway, why not try to find better sources? The respected journalists were talking to people who had an interest in including the Redskins in the equation. Chicago gave a TON more than we'd ever have offered because Denver was so effective assuring everyone knew we were involved. Remember, 20 minutes before the deal with the Bears broke, Clayton reported that we had him and Denver insiders were reporting two No. 1s and JC. Or, wait, was it Cleveland and us who had a three-way going, and that fell through, leading to Chicago coming in? It's hard to say. What is easy to say is we were used by those who were talking to get something we weren't giving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavarleap56 Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Art, Skins went after Cutler and hard. Cutler was even telling people he was coming to Washington. Skins percieved Campbell to be worth more and today he wasnt a good enough barganing chip to get it done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Art Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Art, Skins went after Cutler and hard. Cutler was even telling people he was coming to Washington. Skins percieved Campbell to be worth more and today he wasnt a good enough barganing chip to get it done. Leap, Skins went after Cutler, but not that hard. And, you're right, we presumed more value in Campbell, which is why we never even offered Campbell and two firsts, I assure you. But, Denver convinced many that we were. Including Cutler. There's a reason the Bears added a third rounder at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 The Redskins were never quite as into Cutler as was reported. The Redskins were not as into Owens as reported. Oh...well...in that case..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Ohhhh....alleged insider fight!!!!! Someone get the hoses! Before we begin, can we clarify if the Skins went after Cutler hard or semi-hard? And is there a pill to help in the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Anyway, I have to think that we somehow screwed the pooch here. We let another NFC team get noticeably stronger while admitting that "Yea...we don't really like our QB that much...." I'm still trying to figure out what the hell Denver just did here. Their one strength was their offense. It is now in the hands of Kyle Orton. Is anyone in Denver really going to have patience with McDaniel after he goes 4-12 next year? What good are all those picks going to do him when his season is in flames and he is still 17 years old? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted April 3, 2009 Share Posted April 3, 2009 Apparently people in Denver like talking. Is Washington so tight knit that no member of the press could get a single member in the know within the organization to tell them anything, off the record or not? Every single thing reported in the whole Cutler thing came from OUTSIDE the team.Isn't that strange? There are only three people in the Redskins organization who speak at this point. Snyder (who never speaks to anyone), Vinny (who uses his radio show for propaganda/tampering), and Karl (who says what Snyder tells him to say). The Redskins are the Nixon White House. And Zorn is Henry Kissinger over in the corner saying, "I'm not involved in those discussions." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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