Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 It is insane for people to say that Colt is better than some player who hasn't played yet. As someone posted earlier, Colt failed to beat out Jason Campbell so what does that say and I don't want to hear well they had to pay him because that is absurd. Absurd it undoubtedly is, but the fact it's true makes it even worse. Yet another of the absolute myths about the QB situation that's repeatadly perpetuated on here to denegrate a player not one of us can say would be a success or not in the league due to him yet to take a snap in a full speed regular season game. How do you "beat out" a guy who's Coach is the only one that would take the job in part due to the owner hand picking the QB? :doh: Oh, and that same HC has already decreed they'll be no competition yet again for the starting job. Washington, where mediocrity is rewarded, not punished. That's why were the winning franchise that we ar...... ahhhhh. :doh: Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Om Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 How do you "beat out" a guy who's Coach is the only one that would take the job in part due to the owner hand picking the QB? :doh: Gibbs "hand picked" Campbell, not Snyder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Gibbs "hand picked" Campbell, not Snyder. I know Mark, I was more alluding to the fact that last year, Zorn had no option but to play the hand picked guy, under orders from the owner. Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitecr Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Slide Jansen to Left Tackle...we see how credible this source is...doesn't even realize that Samuels is way better than Jansen....Ridiculous Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NVskinsfan Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Smoke and mirrors!!! Playing the draft game!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KokoMike Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 He looked a lot more crisp and accurate with his throws. I'm not convinced that Colt is cut out for the WCO. Maybe in an offense like Belicheck runs. Colt also failed to beat out Jason Campbell the guy so many on this board are in a hurry to dump it seems.I'm not saying we should or should not get Sanchez, but seeing some more highlights tonight has made me consider the idea as being more than perhaps a passing fantasy. You have to admit, we've come a long way from people saying Colt shouldn't even be in the NFL to he couldn't even beat out Campbell. Of course, if we draft Sanchez, Colt will step up and beat them both out. We could then trade Sanchez for Leinhart in a swap of backup QBs. All this talk is strange as the Skins are saying Campbell is their guy. This is all about Campbell. Colt is just doing his best to make it in the NFL; and he will, whether it is for the Skins or some other team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrFan Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 There are a lot of rumors concerning the QB position, Cutler, Quinn, Campbell still unsigned with one year left on his contract, and now Sanchez. Smoke without fire ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenic Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCDiesel44 Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 LOL. I just became a dumber Redskins fan after reading that. Although I don't mind the thought of drafting Sanchez if it weren't for our teams other needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Most of what Colt did was against Inferior Camp competition. ANd yes Sanchez has not played a snap in the NFL either, that doesn't guarantee he will be the next Elway, but he at least played in a system similar to the WCO at USC. Brennan did not. That's not a dis on Colt either. I just do not have the faith that Colt could even beat out TC who I think is only the #2 QB because of his age and experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Om Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I know Mark, I was more alluding to the fact that last year, Zorn had no option but to play the hand picked guy, under orders from the owner.Hail. I think maybe where we part ways is your use of "fact" and "under order from the owner" here. I understand the basis for that being your opinion, but I also know neither is what I would consider close to "fact." :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onnie007 Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Not happening. They are just interpreting what they are seeing. We are clearly going after a DE or an OT. ESPN doesn't know jack! If anything, they are helping us with our misdirection tactics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frommd Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I can't imagine why anyone would pay to be an ESPN "Insider". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JetSkins Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 im not even a little bit surprised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gibbs Hog Heaven Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 I think maybe where we part ways is your use of "fact" and "under order from the owner" here. I understand the basis for that being your opinion, but I also know neither is what I would consider close to "fact." :cool: How very curious. Care to elaborate Sir, or are we leaving it that, that common held opinion is wrong, on both this and the Coaching search? Hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsTerps26 Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Sanchez is a good West Coast guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gigantor Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 since when did we need a left tackle? did i miss something about samuels? Samuels got owned repeatedly last year, he's definitely lost a step or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjrugger Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 People pay their hard earned money for this Inside Information. ESPN should be ashamed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earl Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 as i just mentioned in another thread, but it seems more appropriate for this one. If JC is a bust then we don't make the playoffs. furthermore if JC is a bust then we miss the playoffs by alot, 7-9 or worse. right? That said, if JC is a bust then we are picking in the top 10 of next years draft. Maybe even top 5. Right? Well isn't next year the year of the QB? didn't Sanchez ignore his coach and enter the draft anyways, because he didn't think he would fair well in next year's class? Sam bradford, Colt McCoy, Jevan Snead and maybe even Tim Tebow are all coming next year and probably rate higher then Sanchez. So why waste a pick a pick on Sanchez this year, if we are only drafting him in case JC is a bust. As for late round QB's, as someone mentioned we can't hold 4 QB's. My conclusion is no QB's drafted in 09. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 And what happened in the playoffs? Has JC ever gotten us to the playoffs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Zorn's words are a matter of public record, you don't commit to anything publicly unless you mean it. :hysterical: Remember Jason Taylor Bubba? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Om Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 How very curious. Care to elaborate Sir, or are we leaving it that, that common held opinion is wrong, on both this and the Coaching search? Let’s be sure we’re talking about the same thing. Your original comment: How do you "beat out" a guy who's Coach is the only one that would take the job in part due to the owner hand picking the QB? That parts I take issue with are ... 1) the suggestion that Zorn only got the head coaching job (though I note you hedged it with the rather vague qualifier “in part”) because he agreed to play Jason Campbell, who you (the way I also read it) mistakenly suggest was Dan Snyder’s draft pick, not Joe Gibbs, and 2) that neither Collins nor Brennan had any chance at winning the job from Campbell, either in preseason or any other time, because of said arrangement in #1, and not based on merit. Did you mean something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
addicted Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Let’s be sure we’re talking about the same thing. Your original comment:That parts I take issue with are ... 1) the suggestion that Zorn only got the head coaching job (though I note you hedged it with the rather vague qualifier “in part”) because he agreed to play Jason Campbell, who you (the way I also read it) mistakenly suggest was Dan Snyder’s draft pick, not Joe Gibbs, and 2) that neither Collins nor Brennan had any chance at winning the job from Campbell, either in preseason or any other time, because of said arrangement in #1, and not based on merit. Did you mean something else? Not to butt in but I'm of the opinion that Gibbs picked Jason Campbell to be the QB and the reason we drafted him. In addition, when the coaching hunt began one of the reasons we interviewed so many people was due in part to the fact that all of the candidates for the position said they either wanted an open QB competition in camp or they wanted Todd Collins to start both of which Snyder did not want and it was Snyder who wanted the job to be Campbells. Zorn agreed and the deal was set. Am I correct or wrong on either of these two points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilsonian Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Most of what Colt did was against Inferior Camp competition. ANd yes Sanchez has not played a snap in the NFL either, that doesn't guarantee he will be the next Elway, but he at least played in a system similar to the WCO at USC. Brennan did not.That's not a dis on Colt either. I just do not have the faith that Colt could even beat out TC who I think is only the #2 QB because of his age and experience. Veretax, in all fairness, Colt also played WITH 3rd stringers. It would be one thing if he dominated a 3rd string defense with our starting offense, but he was throwing to guys like Horace Gant and Billy McMullen, not Santana Moss and Chris Cooley. I think Brennan's accuracy and quick release make him a great fit for the West Coast Offense. Just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brlawson Posted March 31, 2009 Share Posted March 31, 2009 Has JC ever gotten us to the playoffs? He got injured, and TC got us the rest of the way there. I guess you can make the argument that he put us in position to make a run at it, but TC really is the one who got us there. Then he bombed in the game vs Seattle that was terribly upsetting because we held it close until he had 2 Pick 6's. Damn that game sucked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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