SkinsHokieFan Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Another point for the 2nd amendment. What a weak headline from the Miami paper though. The customer should get a parade 1 dead, one injured in Miami Burger King shootingBY ROBERT SAMUELS AND JENNIFER LEBOVICH JLEBOVICH@MIAMIHERALD.COM One man was killed and another seriously wounded in a shootout inside a Miami Burger King on Tuesday, officials said. Police said a man wearing a ski mask walked into the store at Biscayne Boulevard and 54th Street and demanded money from a clerk. A customer, who has a concealed weapons permit, pulled a gun, said Officer Jeff Giordano, a Miami police spokesman. The customer and robber exchanged fire. The robber was shot dead at the scene. The customer, who had several gunshot wounds, was taken to Ryder Trauma Center in serious but stable condition, said Lt. Ignatius Carroll, a Miami Fire Rescue spokesman. At about 4 p.m., officials got several 911 calls reporting people shot inside the Burger King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Eh, he will probably get sued instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Why do people rob fast food places? at most you will get like $350. Glad the customer took the fool out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocolateCitySkin Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Why do people rob fast food places? at most you will get like $350.Glad the customer took the fool out. he was just mad they stopped serving breakfast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spjunkies Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 he was just mad they stopped serving breakfast. He just wanted a breakfast burrito Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HogNose Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 This is why everyone should have a concealed carry permit. I carry most of the time. Bravo to this guy. One more slug off the streets. :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vicious Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 "One robber dead and good Samaritan in serious condition" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cooked Crack Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I don't think he did the smart thing. This guy had a gun and he's still in the hospital. Should have probably shot better. I wonder how many people would be cheering for his rights if someone else was caught in this firefight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spec138 Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Good for him. Brave of him to take the guy out, he could of probably just not drawn attention and let him loot the place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I have no sympathy for the robber, but I don't want Joe Public deciding when and where a gun battle between untrained participants will break out. If your wife and kids were in the store, would you rather the robber got away with a little cash, or that they were caught in cross fire. How many lives is it worth losing for the few hundred dollars in a Burger King till? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Unloads on 9 people with 5 dying we discuss gun rights because nobody was there to stop him without the gang tackle. Gets shot by a legal concealed carry permit we discuss gun rights. That whole "Right" thing seems okay to me. Why on Earth would we have concealed carry laws if you should just stand there. I would think this is the one and only time when the other already has a GUN out and at this point you have to expect him to use it. I say better to use it to protect ALL than to just protect yourself. We used to just sit on a plane and wait for a negotiation: That stopped... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 How many lives is it worth losing for the few hundred dollars in a Burger King till? And you are certain no lives would have been lost how? Anyone pulling a armed robbery of a Burger King ain't thinking too clearly to start with. I certainly disagree with the tolerable level of thievery argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frommd Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 http://cbs4.com/local/Burger.King.Shooting.2.967279.html "A good Samaritan inside the Burger King had a concealed weapons permit. He confronted the robbery suspect at which time shots were fired," said Miami police spokesman Jeff Giordano. "There were a lot of people inside the Burger King, he may have saved lives. It was a brave act." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenaa Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 It's hard to know whether his judgement to shoot was right without being there. I'd guess that in most armed robberies, the robber does not shoot anyone. If I was in the situation, I'd be inclined to stay uninvolved if possible. I'd like to know if the customer drew his weapon and ordered the crook to drop his, or just opened fire. You only pull it if you are going to shoot. If you've ever hunted, it is rare that a shot instantly debilitates your prey. You need either a head shot or spine shot to really drop an animal. Unless the robber is stunned at being shot, assuming the customer opened fire, he will get a few shots off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinInsite Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 If I'm at a bank during a robbery, I don't want some random guy to start a shoot out. Hell I don't even want the police to start shooting. Let the idiot take all my cash for all I care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thiebear Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 Armed robbery victim shot in leg at Lakewood home | APP.com | Asbury ... FBI: Armed Robber Targets Stores, Forces Some Sort Of Sex Assault On ... BPDNews.com: ARMED ROBBERY LEAVES VICTIM CRITICALLY INJURED Here are the 1st three Armed robbery stories pulled up on Google. I'm sure there are plenty on there with no victims, but the ones below these three were all the OP story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I certainly disagree with the tolerable level of thievery argument. I do as well. But I don't agree that the risk of escalating a robbery into a mass killing is worth it without question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 I do as well. But I don't agree that the risk of escalating a robbery into a mass killing is worth it without question. I agree, but anyone committing armed robbery has already introduced deadly force simply by the action. If there was no deadly threat to begin with ,there would not be a armed aspect. I prefer to question if intervention is not worth it as the starting point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuraitengai Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 If I'm at a bank during a robbery, I don't want some random guy to start a shoot out. Hell I don't even want the police to start shooting. Let the idiot take all my cash for all I care. ive said it many times to people. someone wants to mug me, im gonna laugh and have some fun with them. someone wants to mug me while im with someone else, im killing them. but thats a much smaller setting. if im in the BK, i let the guy take the money, leave the building, then follow him to lead the cops to him. im in a bank, like you said, i do whats in the best interest of the other people with me. if i have a moment where i know for 100% certainty that i can take out the robber with no harm to anyone else, i do it. if i dont have 100%, i do nothing unless it gets to the point where hes going to start hurting people anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btfoom Posted March 25, 2009 Share Posted March 25, 2009 If I'm at a bank during a robbery, I don't want some random guy to start a shoot out. Hell I don't even want the police to start shooting. Let the idiot take all my cash for all I care. The problem with this logic is that you are making an assumption that isn't necessarily true. Your assumption is that the person with the gun will simply take the money and leave without harming anyone. From the article: The robber entered wearing a ski mask. He approached a clerk, showed his gun and demanded money, said Miami police spokesman Jeff Giordano. A customer eyed him and the two started arguing. The customer had a concealed-weapons permit and his gun -- and the two exchanged gunfire. At this point, the robber had already pulled out his gun and then started arguing with a customer. I would find it more likely that the robber would escalate the arguement as he has a gun in his hand. During any armed robbery, there are no promises that the folks with the guns won't hurt anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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