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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/10/AR2009031003690.html?hpid=topnews

I love this quote:

"Why should we be afraid to test our worldview against reality?" asked Bill Jack, a Christian leadership instructor who leads groups across the country for a company called Biblically Correct Tours. "If Christianity is true, it better be true in the natural history museums and in the zoos."
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ACW, I honestly dont see why that is funny? personally, I think it's pretty cool that an avowed creationist like the teacher is openning the debate in a calm, and intelligent, open form for his students.

This is a good thing and a positive approach to the debate as a whole.

The quote that's bolded should be the tipoff. They want to test "their worldview" against reality.

Get it?

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My uncle from CA is a creationist preacher. He walked into the smithsonian, pointed to the giant Dinasaur bones and said "This is all fake."

I went to a fundamentalist Baptist church when I was a kid and they admitted there were dinosaurs but since the Earth was 5000 years old they claimed that man walked with the dinosaurs.

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Gee, this kind of makes me want start a circle jerk thread laughing at people who don't believe in creation.

Newsflash: Not all creationists are loons. Plenty of us believe in creation AND can enjoy a lovely walk through of the Smithsonian...I've done it on multiple occasions.

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Gee, this kind of makes me want start a circle jerk thread laughing at people who don't believe in creation.

Newsflash: Not all creationists are loons. Plenty of us believe in creation AND can enjoy a lovely walk through of the Smithsonian...I've done it on multiple occasions.

You're right. The ones who believe in a young earth are.

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How so?

Because young earth creationists think that it's a mass conspiracy that scientists have found things from Earth older than 6,000-10,000 years old.

If it were up to me, I would put them in a cage with the 9/11 conspiracy nuts and let them rip each other's throats out. Or atleast, make fun of them at every chance I get.

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Though I'm an agnostic, I've never been able to understand why the creationists can't reconcile evolution and the Bible. Even when I believed in God, science wasn't a problem for me. I think most of the problem comes from their view of the infallibility of THEIR interpretation/translation of the Bible not necessarily the faith itself.

Another big problem is that this is a group from Liberty University. Honestly, has anyone ever met a reasonably intelligent Liberty graduate? I've personally worked with three of them and all of them were/are dumb as rocks. A small sample size to be sure, but probably fairly representative of most of their students/grads.

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Then you just don't get carbon dating.

My response to you was telling you that you were "wrong" that I didn't get the difference betwenn "creationists" and "young earth creationists."

But if you want to throw in carbon dating into something I wasn't even referring to, that's fine, but I actually DO "get" carbon dating.

* By the way, any "young earth creationists" I happen to know don't think evolution theories and carbon dating are a world conspiracy like some think 9/11 is a government conspiracy. Rather, they think a lot of the methodology is flawed or misinterpretted.

I'm not saying whether or not I hold this strict view of creation, but YEC's I know are certainly not on the same "crazy" plane as the 9/11 conspiracy nuts, lol.

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I've never been able to understand why the creationists can't reconcile evolution and the Bible. Even when I believed in God, science wasn't a problem for me.

I agree with you here. I don't really understand it either...I have always been able to reconcile my knowledge of science with my religious views/faith.

Another big problem is that this is a group from Liberty University. Honestly, has anyone ever met a reasonably intelligent Liberty graduate?

Yeah, I don't know much about Liberty University or its students as I haven't had any experience with any of that...I just know it was founded by Jerry Falwell.

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