zoony Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 exactly. The gun industry and their supporter, must like the tobacco industry, wants to sell their products. And like the "Pro choice" supporters, don't want ANY legislation restricting their activities (Ala no compromise on partial birth abortions at 9 months :doh:). what's the big deal about gun registration? I already gave up my finger prints and my mug shot photos for a concealed permit, as many of the people complaining about this have. There needs to be accountability on used gun private sales and securely storing of personally owned guns, to have an affect on senseless killings. The gun industry and their supporters argue that these measures will have no affect, but they never come up with measures to police their own industry, why? Hey, why stop there?!?!?!!!! We all saw the damage that anti-government propoganda and rhetoric cause in the Oklahoma City Disaster. So I propose this. Anyone who speaks out against the government in a public forum or in written form should first get fingerprinted, photographed, and documented by said government. That way, if any extremism or terrorism should result, the government should know just where to look! Safety First!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHendrix Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I think we take the gun topic in this country to extremes. Any suggestion of any restriction is met with a solid wall of "they want to take all of our guns and leave us helpless in front of the criminals and tyrants!" That's only because it starts us down the slippery slope towards a total ban on guns. Gun 'control' advocates only call themselves that as a P.R. move; their ultimate goal is gun elimination. That is why the pro-gun lobby throws such a fit about this kind of thing, because they are looking at the long-term of where this type of legislation can lead. Over-reaction? Maybe. Aslo, despite the widespread news coverage when a gun related tragedy occurs, gun violence has been on the decline for years. Crime in general has declined over the last decade nation-wide. Certain areas are experiencing increases, though, which it seems to me would be better served with increased enforcement of existing laws rather than enacting a new Federal law that amounts to mere window-dressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Yeah, and we all know that if we make "assault" weapons illegal, the drug gangs will hand theirs over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 And why shouldn't the Federal Government be allowed to proceed with warrantless wiretapping of "terrorists"??? Personally, I'm glad that the radical left of this country has spoken out so much against this measure in the name of the Constitution and Individual rights! What good is a measure of safety when the Constitution is being violated? I tell ya, the liberals have it right here. ooops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHendrix Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Hey, why stop there?!?!?!!!!We all saw the damage that anti-government propoganda and rhetoric cause in the Oklahoma City Disaster. So I propose this. Anyone who speaks out against the government in a public forum or in written form should first get fingerprinted, photographed, and documented by said government. That way, if any extremism or terrorism should result, the government should know just where to look! Safety First!!! Why stop at 'public forum or in written form'? If you hear someone utter something untoward about Big Brother, turn them in. We'll take your word for it, comrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Why stop at 'public forum or in written form'? If you hear someone utter something untoward about Big Brother, turn them in. We'll take your word for it. An idea man! :applause: When I rise to power, you can be my Minister of Security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 The assault weapons ban is an absolute joke. This is a political move to satisfy all of the soft-minded ******* in this country who are afraid of guns. Next, Obama will pass the Anti-Boogie Man Bill to appease the rest of the flaming ******* out there that this bill didn't reach. ...... zoony, I usually respect you as a level headed thinker - but to generalize anybody who doesn't like guns as 'soft-minded *******s... who are afraid of guns.' Is not only short sight but pretty much wrong and douchey as well. Bad form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHendrix Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 An idea man! :applause:When I rise to power, you can be my Minister of Security. Hells yeah! Is that more important than the Ministry of Information? Screw it, I'll head up both of 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 zoony, I usually respect you as a level headed thinker - but to generalize anybody who doesn't like guns as 'soft-minded *******s... who are afraid of guns.' Is not only short sight but pretty much wrong and douchey as well. Bad form. Yah, maybe so. But 99/100 times, ignorance is the root of fear. And I'd say I'm correct here too. .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngestson Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 And why shouldn't the Federal Government be allowed to proceed with warrantless wiretapping of "terrorists"???Personally, I'm glad that the radical left of this country has spoken out so much against this measure in the name of the Constitution and Individual rights! What good is a measure of safety when the Constitution is being violated? I tell ya, the liberals have it right here. ooops. The Radical Middle has to speak out against this nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Yah, maybe so. But 99/100 times, ignorance is the root of fear. And I'd say I'm correct here too..... This line of thought falls apart if you don't believe that being anti-gun is born out of ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 BIG mistake (IMO), this issue is a Dem killer everytime they try it. I agree with you. It's dumb to call a pistol an assault weapon. It's stupid to say a 10 magazine clip is legal but a 11 magazine clip will land you in jail. I can carry a 45 on my hip in Virginia, but I can't own an 11 round clip when I shoot at my range, requiring me to reload more often. It's idiotic. This is a huge looser of an issue for the Democrats and might be the first major mistake of the Obama era. On the other hand it's sure to help out the economy. Down at Blue Ridge Arsenal where I shoot; It looked like the place had been robbed the day they swore in Obama. Everybody and their mother ran down to purchase weapons. They must have sold 30 or 40 guns, ummm assault weapons. I think gun sales nationally are up more than 100% since Obama won the election. I've got my eye on a FN-5.7 with a 20 round clip to compliment my 1911. Guess I'll be purchasing that sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Yeah, and we all know that if we make "assault" weapons illegal, the drug gangs will hand theirs over. To be clear, If you make it illegal for gun enthusiasts to own an 11 round clips for their pistols, the drug gangs will turn in their MAC-9's and Uzi'z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanCollins Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Hey, why stop there?!?!?!!!!We all saw the damage that anti-government propoganda and rhetoric cause in the Oklahoma City Disaster. So I propose this. Anyone who speaks out against the government in a public forum or in written form should first get fingerprinted, photographed, and documented by said government. That way, if any extremism or terrorism should result, the government should know just where to look! Safety First!!! good point, but one that you and most of the guys on the right didn't make when the Bush admin was spying on US Citizens. Why the concern now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander PK Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 :doh: :doh: :doh: and double :doh: Here we go again. I suggest anybody who values their 2nd Ammendment right to keep and bear arms, join up here. The same people who gave you the "not worth the paper it's written on" Assault Weapons ban are at it again . www.nra.org Just like the splurge in people purchasing firearms, Membership in the NRA has grown expedentially in the last several months, and we are going to need them again to keep these morons in check. Nearly 2 million strong and growing. I don't agree with all the NRA philosphy, but there is really nobody else out there fighting for your rights with regards to Guns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 On a positive note, I won't get blisters on my thumb anymore trying to jam in that 14th shell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 There is absolutely NO reason your average American citizen needs an assault rifle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sacase Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 There is absolutely NO reason your average American citizen needs an assault rifle. Do you even know what an "assult rifle" is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander PK Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 There is absolutely NO reason your average American citizen needs an assault rifle. No offense, but who are you to tell me what gun I can own and what I can't? and secondly, most of the guns they are going to try to ban aren't assault weapons anyhow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 There is absolutely NO reason your average American citizen needs an assault rifle. Define please? The devil is in the details Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighOnHendrix Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Just like the splurge in people purchasing firearms, Membership in the NRA has grown expedentially in the last several months, I think you mean "exponentially". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander PK Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 I think you mean "exponentially". thanks. That's what I meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnyderShrugged Posted February 26, 2009 Author Share Posted February 26, 2009 There is absolutely NO reason your average American citizen needs an assault rifle. There is absolutely NO reason that internet discussion boards are needed by American Citizens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngestson Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 There is absolutely NO reason your average American citizen needs an assault rifle. Need and want are two different things. We don't need to own three cars but we can. We don't need to own two houses, but some folks do. We don't need to vote, but it would be silly not to do so. I would guess your argument is tending towards where is a line drawn between civilian and military firearms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 There is absolutely NO reason your average American citizen needs an assault rifle. There is absolutely no reason for your average American to own a bicycle either, or running shoes, or a swim suit... Fact is it's a hobby which millions of law abiding Americans enjoy pursuing. Also you need to check your facts. The assault weapons ban says that any weapon with more than 10 round clip is an assault weapon, it doesn't ban these weapons, doesn't even outlaw me from carrying one to work on my hip. What it does is say I can't buy a new one, even if all I want to do is target practice down at the local range. It's idiotic. Again... I can buy a pistol. I can even own a 20 round clip legally. But if I put the clip in the pistol I'm a rule breaker and looking at jail time. What do you want to bet the criminals will ignore the law, and the law abiding folks will get screwed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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