paintrain Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Holmes catch was a touchdown. Debate over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Well, one was a Super Bowl-winning touchdown catch. The other was a fluke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I say Tyree, simply because how the whole play unfolded. The Giants were the serious underdog going against the only 16-0 team. Tyree was unheard of, Eli magically escapped a sack and what was almost called a dead play, and Tyree was able to get up and get the ball, which if dropped, would have ended the Giants. Holmes catch was great too. I just don't think it was as big. It was 2 and 6, from the 6the yard line. It wasn't do or die at that point just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BAFGA Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 After hearing and seeing all of the hype leading up to the Super Bowl, and the arrogance and self-entitlement shown by Steeler fans afterwards, I think I"m going to watch REdskins Nation today. I need Larry Michael to give me some blind homerism to keep my Redskin fan levels up. They're being beaten down today by all of the Steeler slurping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozskin Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I think Tyree's catch was bull****. Even if the rule states you can secure the ball anywhere on your body, as he hit the ground he moved the ball to his hands. That's not possesion. He never hits the ground. He lands on top of Rodney Harrison anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kuraitengai Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I think Tyree's catch was bull****. Even if the rule states you can secure the ball anywhere on your body, as he hit the ground he moved the ball to his hands. That's not possesion. look down Yes but it never hit the ground before he controlled it. It is still a live ball until it hits the ground, even if the WR is already on the ground. There is no way that was not a catch. what he said. the ball never hit the ground and he didnt go out of bounds. so tyree can juggle the ball all he wants and its still a catch and still possession. the only time juggling comes into play is when a receiver goes out of bounds, or gets drilled and drops the ball. perhaps you should go back and reread the rules until you actually understand them. and back on topic, tyrees catch prolonged the drive and allowed plax to catch the game winner. holmes WAS the game winner, punctuating and entire drive of catches by him. so his was the more epic of the two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCav06 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Tyree's catch was more epic. While Holmes made a good catch, I wasn't at all shocked that he caught it. I actually expected him to make the play. Tyree's catch was more impressive given the circumstances: Pats on the verge of 19-0 season, 3rd and 5, Manning on the verge of being sacked, and the fact that he caught it with his helmet. Tyree, without a doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 The most epic catch was by James Harrison. But if I have to choose between those two, I'll say Tyree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzmuda Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I don't think Holmes got his right foot down - it never caught earth, it didn't kick up dirt, and since it appeared he was pivoting on his left foot and his right foot was always a few inches higher than his left. So, Tyree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IbleedBnG83 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I don't think Holmes got his right foot down - it never caught earth, it didn't kick up dirt, and since it appeared he was pivoting on his left foot and his right foot was always a few inches higher than his left.So, Tyree. Inconclusive evidence. Rule was a TD, and there wasn't enough evidence to overturn it. His foot was hidden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadExField Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Holmes, because the pass was thread and needle, and the catch was amazing. The hardest thing for a WR to do is keep their feet in. Tyree did make a great play, but I blame the pats for not getting Eli down, or going for the high ball. Imagine if the ball would've been intercepted, Eli might not even still be in NY haha. Jk, great catch nonetheless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Inconclusive evidence. Rule was a TD, and there wasn't enough evidence to overturn it. His foot was hidden. I agree, but it did look like one foot was 'higher' than the other on the replay. There wasn't enough evidence to overrule the call on the field so its a mute point. I didn't understand why they didn't at least LOOK at the play that ended the game. I was all about seeing a jump ball in the end zone for Fitzgerald Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
american soldier Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Holmes did. It was THE winning touchdown. Tyree's catch kept a drive going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
american soldier Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 I don't think Holmes got his right foot down - it never caught earth, it didn't kick up dirt, and since it appeared he was pivoting on his left foot and his right foot was always a few inches higher than his left.So, Tyree. Actually, I just say the picture in the WP. Both feet were down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterwookas Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Both were spectacular but Holmes won the game. That was a nice catch. Intense focus. I thought the James Harrison 100 yd. interception return was better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobzmuda Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Actually, I just say the picture in the WP. Both feet were down. You're right. He got two feet down early, early in the catch. http://www.steelersdepot.com/blog/2009/02/picture-of-santonio-holmes-with-2-two-feet-down-for-touchdown/ But when he was coming down, as shown in the replays, he only had 1 foot down. http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/NBCSports/Components/Slideshows-NBC_sports/_production/ss-090201-superbowl2half/ss-090201-superbowl-jc-4.ss_full.jpg Great catch. BTW, Francisco for the Cards got abused that entire game. If the Cards had someone competent in his spot, they might actually win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitman#21 Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Both were great catches but im going with the MVP on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veretax Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Tyree's was better because it meant more, the Giants had to get a First DOwn. If Holmes drops the ball they can still kick a field Goal and tie it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucfSKINS Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Tyree by far. Not even close. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ucfSKINS Posted February 2, 2009 Share Posted February 2, 2009 Tyree's was better because it meant more, the Giants had to get a First DOwn. If Holmes drops the ball they can still kick a field Goal and tie it. Couldn't have said it better myself. :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky52Mc Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Why then everytime a reciever juggles it even a **** hair, they say he didn't have possesion? I think moving the ball from your damn helmet to your hands is a little more than juggling. Is this for real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb_xxvi Posted February 3, 2009 Author Share Posted February 3, 2009 Anonymity+Forum=Large Mouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNumberOne Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Holmes catch was a touchdown. Debate over. Tyree's catch was on fourth-and-long. If Holmes drops it, then the Steelers still have a chance. Debate back on? It's a good question and likely as Redskin fans we'll argue based on where our emotions lay (eg if we hated the Patriots, if we can't root for the Giants regardless, if we liked the team that lost and therefore may be bitter by the catch, etc). Objectively, I think Tyree on a fourth-and-long against the undefeated Patriots probably wins out. Even if Holmes drops it, they still have FG range at the least. That wasn't nearly as do-or-die clutch as a result. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pskins Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Holmes was the more epic catch. I want to see the people of Pittsburgh give him a 21 bong salute! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted February 3, 2009 Share Posted February 3, 2009 Tyree's catch was on fourth-and-long. If Holmes drops it, then the Steelers still have a chance.Debate back on? It's a good question and likely as Redskin fans we'll argue based on where our emotions lay (eg if we hated the Patriots, if we can't root for the Giants regardless, if we liked the team that lost and therefore may be bitter by the catch, etc). Objectively, I think Tyree on a fourth-and-long against the undefeated Patriots probably wins out. Even if Holmes drops it, they still have FG range at the least. That wasn't nearly as do-or-die clutch as a result. Debate still off. One won the Super Bowl; the other didn't. You can do the "What ifs?" about anything you want. Fact is that the catch that Tyree made was lucky and did not, in and of itself, win the game. For the record, I was pulling for the Giants. Holmes's catch is one of the prettiest things that I've ever seen. Ever. And, for the record, I was pulling for the Cardinals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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