Papabear Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Hey big guy,Show me the film of Riggins' touchdown dance. HINT: you won't find any because he never celebrated after a score EXACTLY. Maybe some people should start taking Riggins a bit more seriously. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandymac27 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 The question is did Moss' TD dance really cause a rift in the locker room like he's saying it did, or is he exaggerating things again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brandymac27 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 yeah he just checked himself into the emergency room at Sibley to skip practice.....thats not causing a divided locker room though. I gotta agree. He really shouldn't be talking crap about people. Pot...kettle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 The question is did Moss' TD dance really cause a rift in the locker room like he's saying it did, or is he exaggerating things again? Even if it did, we didn't go to the locker room until after the game. The players and coaches still had a chance to win the game after Moss's touchdown (and dance). That coulda impacted the philly game and stuff, but I don't buy that it caused us to lose that game against Cincy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HLF Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 lol @ that penalty costing us playoffs. What about giving the ball to our fullback instead of the best player we have? What about not being able to throw more then 200 yds? What about the same ****ing lame ass plays being called since mid season?:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirClintonPortis Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 Well, if Moss was being honest and really didn't know and Zorn benched him anyway, I think their relationship would start to sour. I don't really think Zorn is that much of a player's coach as he appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz1522 Posted January 6, 2009 Share Posted January 6, 2009 What distraction did Riggo cause??? Ok the guy (along with most of those teams he was on) partied alot...so what? You know what else they did? They freaking won and keep most of the crap inside the locker room where it belongs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 yeah he just checked himself into the emergency room at Sibley to skip practice.....thats not causing a divided locker room though. To put his back in traction. Then guess what? He suited up on Sunday to pound out 100 yds and help his team to a WIN. I love Revisionist History 101. Especially from guys that were 2 years old when Riggo's career was winding down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 To put his back in traction.Then guess what? He suited up on Sunday to pound out 100 yds and help his team to a WIN. So you're saying that its okay for Riggins to be a locker room cancer as long as he helps the team win...is that what you're saying? I call that a double standard, maybe you don't mind double standards, but I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DieselPwr44 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 So you're saying that its okay for Riggins to be a locker room cancer as long as he helps the team win...is that what you're saying? I call that a double standard, maybe you don't mind double standards, but I do. So a guy that's so beat up after a game that he has to check himself into a hospital to put his back in traction and then suit up on Sunday to get beat up but help his team to a win is a team cancer?? You're full of hockey. I guess all of the Hogs were team cancers too as the Hogs and Riggo were at the 5 o'clock club after practice drinking?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Portis is the face of the Franchise. All over players look up to him. He gets the yards and the media loves him. He's the leader. He blocks well, he sacrifices his body, and he is seemingly unselfish. He's the man. The same man that doesn't practice much The same man that doesn't play in pre season. The same man that pretty much complained when he was injured in pre season that Gibbs shouldn't have been playing him in meaningless games because he only knows one speed. The same man that has called out Zorn not once but TWICE on national radio/media He doesn't set a good example for the rest of the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDSKINS3000 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I wanna hear what Larry Theismann says. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDSKINS3000 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I wanna hear what Larry Theismann says. Also don't forget about Darrel Monk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 We're a total mess. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papaskin Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 So you're saying that its okay for Riggins to be a locker room cancer as long as he helps the team win...is that what you're saying? I call that a double standard, maybe you don't mind double standards, but I do. Riggins never celebrated. And he was not a locker room cancer. Obviously you disagree with his observations/comments. Fair enough. But making ***** up (about his career) is on par with any double standard. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman69 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Riggins never celebrated. And he was not a locker room cancer.Obviously you disagree with his observations/comments. Fair enough. But making ***** up (about his career) is on par with any double standard. :2cents: To back this up... I will stand by my opinion that Riggo has some issues with the organization and some of the players personally, rightfully or not. I have said he has an axe to grind. Which I still do. However, Riggo never behaved like players of today. He played like players of yesterday. Drinking, smoking, partying... Hell I know I would do that in if I was in the position then. Yes he blew off alot of ****, and he could very well be in the same limelight as the "stand out" players of today. But he NEVER called out his coach, NEVER called out his players. At least that I remember. I still think all the drama nowadays would exist in the past with today's media. TV and reporters everywhere has changed everything from Football, World Events, War etc... All I know, is I ****ing hate when a season is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoRnAndRaiSedSkinsFan Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Portis is the face of the Franchise. All over players look up to him. He gets the yards and the media loves him. He's the leader. He blocks well, he sacrifices his body, and he is seemingly unselfish. He's the man.The same man that doesn't practice much The same man that doesn't play in pre season. The same man that pretty much complained when he was injured in pre season that Gibbs shouldn't have been playing him in meaningless games because he only knows one speed. The same man that has called out Zorn not once but TWICE on national radio/media He doesn't set a good example for the rest of the team. The same man that mouthed off once again on the John Thompson show. He blamed Zorn for the running game at the end of the season. He also ****ed about not getting his 1500 yards. He said he knows how the running game is to be handled and that Zorn cannot be a dictator next year..... Edit: I didn't catch the TWICE in one of your points. But I'll just consider it elaboration on one of your points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westcoasthog Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 The last two points about Fletch and the locker room are both right on. It's ok to have the happy after game hip hip hooray celebrations after a win but we need intensity and fire before the game. Forget staying medium. That's ok for a qb to stay medium...but this team needs a fire lit under their rear ends. That's why I like D Hall and LaRon and their trash talking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandman69 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 The last two points about Fletch and the locker room are both right on. It's ok to have the happy after game hip hip hooray celebrations after a win but we need intensity and fire before the game. Forget staying medium. That's ok for a qb to stay medium...but this team needs a fire lit under their rear ends. That's why I like D Hall and LaRon and their trash talking. YES! The team hasn't had that emotion on the sideline all season long for the most part. It showed up in the Philly game and the Bengals game I think. When JZ chest pumped Fletch or someone, can't remember who. The whole team seemed electrified. My wife even noticed it, which is saying something. She asked me "Where has this team been?" I think that is one of my biggest ****es about this season. There was rarely any emotion this year on the sidelines. Bite my tongue, but kind of like I saw on the Doughboys sidelines alot of the time (other than their arguing). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoudMouth12thMan Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 Riggins=HOF, SB winner, and the best Redskin Back ever. I'll take his crazy, drunken, slurred word, b.s. philosophies over anyone's theory on what this team needs, any day of the week. He was right about the team last year and he was right on the money this year. He knows what he's talking about. He's just a little abrasive with his criticism. He doesn't like the flashy "me" guy, and when he sees it, he points it out with often venomous criticism. I love it personally b/c it especially gets a rise out the "modern" athlete supporters. I'm old-school baby. I hate the gold teeth, gold shoes, and the hip hop video shoots in the end zone and after a tackle made when the runner just gained eight yards on first down [cough cough Marcus Washington]. Give me hard-nosed football players with no interest in self promotion [cough cough Sean Taylor, Landry, Fletcher, Horton, Cooley, etc.]. I love me some 44DESL<------Loudmouth's license plate baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSF Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 So you're saying that its okay for Riggins to be a locker room cancer as long as he helps the team win...is that what you're saying? I call that a double standard, maybe you don't mind double standards, but I do. You are way off base with your comments about Riggins. Riggins was never a cancer in the locker room period. He also never celebrated after scoring. You are confusing Riggins' night life with what kind of player he was. He was a pro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thinking Skins Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 You are way off base with your comments about Riggins. Riggins was never a cancer in the locker room period. He also never celebrated after scoring. You are confusing Riggins' night life with what kind of player he was. He was a pro. Riggins gets respected because he did his stuff on a winning team. I don't know how he would have acted in Gibbs 2.0 or under Zorn or in this 21st century NFL. What I do know is that he has a lot of opinions, most of them against the Redskins players and personnel, particularly Moss and Portis. And even if you want to speak highly of Riggins, lets talk about Gary Clark (my favorite skin of all time). He was known to get in Gibbs's face time and again, but he showed up when it mattered, especially when #11 was the QB. All I'm sayin is that Riggo has a double standard that he's judging this team by that he didn't judge the players of the 80s by. And I really think he's just bitter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC#17 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 F Portis, what kind of player whines about not getting 1500 yards when his team is out of the playoffs? A selfish player. I'll trust Riggins opinion over any fans opinion or so called expert. Anyone who thinks this team is going anywhere next year is a homer. JC is not leading this team anywhere, what has he really shown us these past 2 years? Not much. Our O-line and D-line need serious help, by the time the Redskins can even fix these problems most of our current star players will be over the hill. Trade Portis and get some draft pics. Running backs can be replaced with ease. This team needs a rebuilt O-line and a franchise qb before it starts thinking about a playoff run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC#17 Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 F Portis, what kind of player whines about not getting 1500 yards when his team is out of the playoffs? A selfish player. I'll trust Riggins opinion over any fans opinion or so called expert. Plus calling out Zorn on the radio? Send him to Dallas. Anyone who thinks this team is going anywhere next year is a homer. JC is not leading this team anywhere, what has he really shown us these past 2 years? Not much. Our O-line and D-line need serious help, by the time the Redskins can even fix these problems most of our current star players will be over the hill. Trade Portis and get some draft pics. Running backs can be replaced with ease. This team needs a rebuilt O-line and a franchise qb before it starts thinking about a playoff run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
str8jacket Posted January 7, 2009 Share Posted January 7, 2009 I can't remember who said it, was kind of a semi-famous quote i guess but it was something to the effect that John Riggins set the single season records for touchdowns and after every single one handed the ball to the ref and walked back to the sideline. On one hand you gotta miss the old days when guys really had character. There are a few still out there that play hard, work hard, behave like they should and they for the most part go unnoticed or struggle to get in the hall of fame for their efforts. On the other you want to see some fire, some form of a spark and i noticed in the playoffs games they were dishing out penalties right and left on celebrations. Sometimes ya gotta miss the old days RFK stadium and a time when stadiums were named after people and not after a business proposition. A time when players played in the mud. It was Jack Lambert missing a tooth standing there in the cold with blood on his jersey. It was John Riggins handing the ball to the ref after walking into the endzone behind the best damn offensive line to ever play the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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