Streater101 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 I never said he is a scrub.There is something to be said about picking up free agents from winning teams vise picking up free agents from losing teams. We always choose the latter. There are reasons these teams are losers, and it's not always to do with talent. I am tired of us cherry picking from losing teams. It hasn't done use much good. How did Dre Bly do for those Broncos? Are you honestly comparing him to Dre Bly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan07 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 They're franchising him.1. Nnamdi Asomugha (1) Season Total: 29 attempts, 4.97 YPA, 62.07 Forced INC%, 0 TDs this guy is good. I would love to have him, but theres no way in hell we'll get him. ------------------------------------------- 14. Carlos rogers: Season Total: 101 attempts, 5.83 YPA, 47.52 Forced INC%, 4 TDs Rogers has improved significantly this year, can't wait to see him improve more next year. where'd you find those stats from?!?!?! Rogers played good and I knew he was top 20 in the NFL but not that good! Props to CR. I knew he was shutdown. if only he caught some of the ints thrown his way, qb's would be much more scared to throw on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21DIEHARDSKINSFAN21 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 i would love to have asumugha on the team. quite frankly though we wouldnt either keep hall or rogers. springs would be cut but u know how rogers feel about starting. i dont think hall would be content givin up his position considering what he has done for us so personally i think it would do nothin but cause us some problems on the defensive side of the ball and we ought to sign rogers and hall. dont fix nothin that aint broke. jus needa buy some glue for his hands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire3fighter4 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 where'd you find those stats from?!?!?! Rogers played good and I knew he was top 20 in the NFL but not that good! Props to CR. I knew he was shutdown. if only he caught some of the ints thrown his way, qb's would be much more scared to throw on him. a good friend of mine writes sports for a living. His 'main thing' is WR/CB rankings and he keeps stats for those. Rogers improved tons from last year, and if he starts hanging on to all the easy picks hes thrown he'll be top 5:2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Are you honestly comparing him to Dre Bly? No, missing my point entirely. How bout we start signing players from Superbowl teams instead of teams at the bottom of the barrel? You get a guy from a losing team he comes here with a losing mentality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogs87 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 I wonder what make you guys think he is so great when I see stats like these? Team Tackles Interceptions G GS Total Solo Ast Sck SFTY PDef Int Yds Avg Lng TDs FUM Lost 15 15 40 33 7 0.0 -- 9 1 0 0.0 0 0 -- -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire3fighter4 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 I wonder what make you guys think he is so great when I see stats like these? Team Tackles Interceptions G GS Total Solo Ast Sck SFTY PDef Int Yds Avg Lng TDs FUM Lost 15 15 40 33 7 0.0 -- 9 1 0 0.0 0 0 -- -- 1. Nnamdi Asomugha (1) Season Total: 29 attempts, 4.97 YPA, 62.07 Forced INC%, 0 TDs again, keep in mind he's on teams best receivers most of the time and has consistently completely taken them out of the game....this truly shows that NFL.com's statistics do not reflect great CB play. i've watched him play all season and he is, in my opinion, the best corner in the league. Yes, that includes Champ Bailey(suffering from injuries currently) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streater101 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 No, missing my point entirely.How bout we start signing players from Superbowl teams instead of teams at the bottom of the barrel? You get a guy from a losing team he comes here with a losing mentality. Randel El came from a Super Bowl team. That worked out pretty well huh?. Meanwhile, those stupid Patriots got duped into taking that bum Randy Moss from that same losing Oakland Raiders team. I feel sorry for the team that waste their money on that Asomugha guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire3fighter4 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 "This is an article dedicated to the 25 CBs who are currently playing the best football. I look at many factors to determine what 25 CBs are playing the best football. Attempts (passes thrown at the CB), total yards (including penalty yards), yards per attempt (YPA), TDs allowed, incompletions forced, non forced incompletions, pass deflections, INTs, safety help, man/zone coverage, level of competition, efficiency, hot and cold streaks, and pass rush. This article is intended to open people’s eyes and minds as to who are truly the best CBs in the league. " 1. Nnamdi Asomugha Season Total: 29 attempts, 4.97 YPA, 62.07 Forced INC%, 0 TDs 2. Corey Webster Season Total: 63 attempts, 4.11 YPA, 63.49 Forced INC%, 1 TD 3. Charles Woodson Season Total: 62 attempts, 5.87 YPA, 56.45 Forced INC%, 0 TDs 4. Chris Johnson Season Total: 45 attempts, 5.20 YPA, 53.33 Forced INC%, 1 TD 5. Al Harris Season Total: 35 attempts, 5.51 YPA, 51.43 Forced INC%, 1 TD 6. Darrelle Revis Season Total: 68 attempts, 5.10 YPA, 50.00 Forced INC%, 1 TD 7. Sheldon Brown Season Total: 58 attempts, 5.10 YPA, 43.10 Forced INC%, 0 TDs 8. Brandon Flowers Season Total: 61 attempts, 4.85 YPA, 34.43 Forced INC%, 0 TDs 9. Ronald Bartell Season Total: 87 attempts, 5.97 YPA, 45.98 Forced INC%, 1 TD 10. Samari Rolle Season Total: 43 attempts, 4.05 YPA, 51.16 Forced INC%, 0 TDs 11. Stanford Routt Season Total: 37 attempts, 5.41 YPA, 48.65 Forced INC%, 2 TDs 12. Carlos Rogers Season Total: 101 attempts, 5.83 YPA, 47.52 Forced INC%, 4 TDs 13. Antoine Winfield Season Total: 56 attempts, 6.20 YPA, 37.50 Forced INC%, 2 TDs 14. Quentin Jammer Season Total: 82 attempts, 6.06 YPA, 40.24 Forced INC%, 4 TDs 15. Kelvin Hayden Season Total: 42 attempts, 6.21 YPA, 45.24 Forced INC%, 1 TD 16. Deshea Townsend Season Total: 30 attempts, 6.00 YPA, 40.00 Forced INC%, 0 TDs 17. Richard Marshall Season Total: 34 attempts, 4.53 YPA, 32.35 Forced INC%, 1 TD 18. Asante Samuel Season Total: 71 attempts, 6.45 YPA, 42.25 Forced INC%, 3 TDs 19. Leigh Bodden Season Total: 75 attempts, 6.84 YPA, 40.00 Forced INC%, 3 TDs 20. Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie Season Total: 71 attempts, 6.55 YPA, 43.66 Forced INC%, 4 TDs 21. Nick Harper Season Total: 85 attempts, 5.81 YPA, 38.82 Forced INC%, 2 TDs 22. Cortland Finnegan Season Total: 78 attempts, 7.56 YPA, 44.87 Forced INC%, 0 TD 23. Marcus Trufant (NR) Season Total: 85 attempts, 6.95 YPA, 44.71 Forced INC%, 5 TDs 24. Phillip Buchanon Season Total: 66 attempts, 7.61 YPA, 30.30 Forced INC%, 2 TDs 25. Jabari Greer Season Total: 47 attempts, 5.81 YPA, 42.55 Forced INC%, 2 TDs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Randel El came from a Super Bowl team. That worked out pretty well huh?. Meanwhile, those stupid Patriots got duped into taking that bum Randy Moss from that same losing Oakland Raiders team. I feel sorry for the team that waste their money on that Asomugha guy. Nice misrepresentation of the facts. Randy Moss showed he could be a number 1 receiver on a WINNING team which is how he ended up in Oakland. Randel El showed he was a 4th receiver/gadget player on a Super Bowl team and the Redskins paid him number 1 receiver money. What's your point? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streater101 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Nice misrepresentation of the facts.Randy Moss showed he could be a number 1 receiver on a WINNING team which is how he ended up in Oakland. Randel El showed he was a 4th receiver/gadget player on a Super Bowl team and the Redskins paid him number 1 receiver money. What's your point? Exactly. I have no point, because I'm using your logic as a template. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Exactly. I have no point, because I'm using your logic as a template. No you are using your illogic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streater101 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 How bout we start signing players from Superbowl teams instead of teams at the bottom of the barrel?You get a guy from a losing team he comes here with a losing mentality. Your words verbatim dude. Nothing really more to say than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Your words verbatim dude. Nothing really more to say than that. So you pick one player? WOW. No I am talking Brandon Lloyd, Andre Carter, Phillip Daniels, Pete Kendall, the corner we got from the niners last year, the running back from Atlanta, etc, etc. We got one guy from a Super Bowl team, the rest were all losers. Thanks for playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fire3fighter4 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 So you pick one player? WOW.No I am talking Brandon Lloyd, Andre Carter, Phillip Daniels, Pete Kendall, the corner we got from the niners last year, the running back from Atlanta, etc, etc. We got one guy from a Super Bowl team, the rest were all losers. Thanks for playing. Pete Kendalls actually been pretty solid for us(last year he was, this year he's been average.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siven Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Can Suggs play 4-3 OLB? Because I want a DE who's not an end-backer tweener. he lines up as a DE for the ravens when they run a 4-3. thats where he gets the majority of his sacks. he is far better as a 4-3 defensive end then a 3-4 olb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOGnificent Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 i dont think suggs will leave though. he has the oppurtunity to pick up where ray will leave off, besides there closer at this point than we are Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 I don't think the 4rth ranked defense on a team that had a bottom dwelling O, needs to dump loads of cash into it. That's just me though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 i dont think suggs will leave though. he has the oppurtunity to pick up where ray will leave off, besides there closer at this point than we are Not sure how much I buy that. Their QB play is still suspect. Their receiver play is still an issue. They have a young oline, that should get better. They have a number of decisions to make on defense. Probably as many if not more than us. Ray Lewis isn't getting younger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus87 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 "This is an article dedicated to the 25 CBs who are currently playing the best football. I look at many factors to determine what 25 CBs are playing the best football. Attempts (passes thrown at the CB), total yards (including penalty yards), yards per attempt (YPA), TDs allowed, incompletions forced, non forced incompletions, pass deflections, INTs, safety help, man/zone coverage, level of competition, efficiency, hot and cold streaks, and pass rush. This article is intended to open people’s eyes and minds as to who are truly the best CBs in the league. "12. Carlos Rogers Season Total: 101 attempts, 5.83 YPA, 47.52 Forced INC%, 4 TDs Damn look at Rogers, #12 on the list, ahead of some pretty impressive names. Coming off his knee injury and without a real pass rush no less.Someone should send that to the Redskins front office. A million times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus87 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 1. Nnamdi Asomugha (1)Season Total: 29 attempts, 4.97 YPA, 62.07 Forced INC%, 0 TDs again, keep in mind he's on teams best receivers most of the time and has consistently completely taken them out of the game....this truly shows that NFL.com's statistics do not reflect great CB play. i've watched him play all season and he is, in my opinion, the best corner in the league. Yes, that includes Champ Bailey(suffering from injuries currently) He is better than Champ.He's an appreciable amount younger obviously, and he's very physical in tackling and run support on top of his superior coverage ability. He was easily the best corner in the league last year as well. Just completely dominant on any WR he matches up against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 He was able to shut down Andre Johnson, which is difficult to do. He would be an upgrade for sure but he'd be VERY expensive. I'd rather keep Carlos and spend the money on Jordan Gross to take over for Jansen at RT. Now, if we could get creative and have escalator clauses, so if there IS an uncapped year, we could have the bulk of the contract paid during the upcapped year. Then, I'd get greedy and go after Haynesworth, Gross AND Asomugha. It's a pipe dream for sure but it would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
txkid Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 He's staying with the S&B. The Gints (with six locals) have overthrown them as the most popular team in my area (Fresno) and they need to keep them to reclaim the throne. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rufus T Firefly Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 Frankly, NA is so good I would be fine with letting Hall go and trading Rogers if we signed him, though I'd prefer to team him with Rogers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan07 Posted January 1, 2009 Share Posted January 1, 2009 a good friend of mine writes sports for a living.His 'main thing' is WR/CB rankings and he keeps stats for those. Rogers improved tons from last year, and if he starts hanging on to all the easy picks hes thrown he'll be top 5:2cents: Actually according to wiki, " Nnamdi was targeted only 27 times with 8 completions for 133 yards and 0 touchdowns allowed the entire season. Nnamdi finished the 2008 season with 40 tackles, 1 interception, 1 forced fumble, and 9 pass deflections." Dude is a monster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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