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Andre The Giant

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Do you have the patience?  

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  1. 1. Do you have the patience?

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Long-Time-Fan

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Not only would I want Bill Parcells, but I would do what Baseball did way back with their first commish and make him GM for LIFE.

How I don't know,he isnt worth ownership stakes like it was mentioned he might have wanted a year ago.

But definatlly sign him for life.

Bill's only problem is he hasnt stayed around long enough,we can't have that anymore.

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Mark The Homer

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I can possibly see Snyder taking Parcells. Possibly. It would kind of shock me though.

Haley, no. Not in 2009.

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EDIT: I want to clarify something because upon rereading this post I could see how it may be confusing. I want Bill Parcells to be the general manager, and Todd Haley to be the head coach.
That's what I thought you meant.
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thecardiacrll

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EDIT: I want to clarify something because upon rereading this post I could see how it may be confusing. I want Bill Parcells to be the general manager, and Todd Haley to be the head coach. Ok, carry on reading:

The reports are coming out that Bill Parcells is going to be a free agent this offseason. This should have "REDSKINS" written all over it.

Now, some of you are going to say that going out and signing Parcells to run the team would be another example of the Redskins trying to use big money to lure in big names, and look how well that has ever turned out. Point taken, but Parcells is different. He is the guy who can turn this team's attention to where it needs to be - beefing up the lines and making the Redskins a tough football team again. He has no emotional investment in players who have been around for too long, or who have been ineffective. He would wrench personnel control away from the Dan, and allow him to do what he does best - be a supporting owner who is all too happy to spend the money it takes to make the Redskins a first-class organization.

With Parcells should come Todd Haley. Several times I have discussed what would make him a great head coach in Washington, but the idea of pairing him up with Bill Parcells for the next 5 years or so is almost too sweet. And I'll say again what I feel is his most important advantage over Jim Zorn - at 41 years old, he could coach for the next 15 years before he's as old as Jim Zorn is now. You want stability in your organization? Hire someone who won't have to be replaced before Barack Obama will.

Finally, Bill Parcells and Todd Haley were run out of Dallas because Jerry Jones wanted Terrell Owens to get his way. Don't you think those two guys would want nothing more than to go to the Cowboys' most hated rival and build a championship team there? Wouldn't it be sweet if Dan Snyder could run into Jerry Jones at owners' meetings 3 or 4 years from now, his organization in tatters while the Redskins enjoyed the sweet fruits of success, with both of them knowing it was Jones' arrogance that allowed Snyder to pluck two brilliant football minds right out from under Jerry's nose? Wouldn't you love it if Cowboy trolls couldn't even work up the heart to come over here, because they would know that our organization's success was directly rooted in their organization's failure?

Bill Parcells and Todd Haley. Change Redskins' fans can believe in.

That would be the greatest thing that could ever happen to this team. Do I think it is gonna happen...NO...IN MY DREAMS.
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Say what you will about Snyder, but he genuinely wants this team to win a Super Bowl(after all, the marketing practically writes itself!).

After seeing what Parcells did for Miami, I'd say he'd be willing to hire Parcells and give him everything short of a blank check. That is unless being buddies with Vinny overshadows all that.

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GrimReefa

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Not only would I want Bill Parcells, but I would do what Baseball did way back with their first commish and make him GM for LIFE.

How I don't know,he isnt worth ownership stakes like it was mentioned he might have wanted a year ago.

But definatlly sign him for life.

Bill's only problem is he hasnt stayed around long enough,we can't have that anymore.

Parcells is a wanderer. We're not going to be able to do much about the fact that we have about 5 years with him, tops. Also, he's getting up in age, so I'm not sure we'd want him much past 5 years.

But, in the time we do have him, he can lay the foundations for success which will outlast his tenure, especially if we have a guy like Haley who can continue to run the team on the field the Parcells way for a decade or so, or longer. Also, hopefully some of the people working under him can learn how to run a football team. Parcells is relatively short-term, but his effect would be a lasting one.

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Don't know about Todd Haley but like him or not Parcells KNOWS talent.

It's pretty obvious that Vinny doesn't. How long is it going to take before Snyder realizes that.

If you look where he's been and what he's worked with he recognizes players that can play and everytime the do what they are supposed to do he doesn't give them another couple million.

DanDan :helmet:

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GrimReefa

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No way BP comes here. I think he stays in Miami. If not... he goes back to NY... with Mangini getting fired and all.

Why not? You can't tell me that Parcells isn't bitter about the way things ended in Dallas. And you know that if Daniel Snyder makes an offer, it will be the biggest one on the table.

I think Parcells is all Snyder's if he wants him. That's the only catch.

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Why not? You can't tell me that Parcells isn't bitter about the way things ended in Dallas. And you know that if Daniel Snyder makes an offer, it will be the biggest one on the table.

I think Parcells is all Snyder's if he wants him. That's the only catch.

Why would he be bitter. He left them remember?

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GrimReefa

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Don't know about Todd Haley but like him or not Parcells KNOWS talent.

It's pretty obvious that Vinny doesn't. How long is it going to take before Snyder realizes that.

If you look where he's been and what he's worked with he recognizes players that can play and everytime the do what they are supposed to do he doesn't give them another couple million.

DanDan :helmet:

Ok, I'll make the case for Todd Haley again.

Haley is the 41-year old offensive coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals. Before that he was the Cowboys' wide receivers coach, where he got in a very public sideline confrontation with one Terrell Owens. After getting run out of that job, he has built in Arizona a terrific offense out of two admittedly super wide-outs but otherwise a bunch of spare parts. I mean honestly, did you really think Kurt Warner had a Pro Bowl season left in him? Did you even think that five years ago?

(EDIT: More on Kurt Warner this year: his 67.1% completion percentage, 4583 passing yards, 30 passing TDs, and 93.9 passer rating were all his best marks in those categories since 2001. Also, he had a better than 2:1 TD:INT ratio for only the second time in his career, the other being the Super Bowl championship season of 1999. In fact, before this year Kurt Warner had never thrown for over 4500 yards and had a 2:1 TD:INT ratio in the same season, not even in his glory days in St. Louis.)

Arizona's offense was fourth in the league in yards per game, and tied for third in points per game - New Orleans was the only team to outperform Arizona in both categories. Contrast that with Washington, who came in 19th in YPG, and a dismal 28th in points per game. 28th. In front of only Oakland, Cleveland, St. Louis, and Cincinnati.

Now, anyone who can look me in the eyes and tell me with a straight face that Arizona's offensive personnel is THAT MUCH BETTER than ours is going to get laughed at for his troubles.

And if you want to say that Washington is running a new system, fine. But last year was the first year for Haley in Arizona, and they were 7th in PPG, and 12th in YPG. Pretty impressive.

Add to that the fact that Todd Haley is nearly 15 years younger than Jim Zorn, and this, as they say, is a no brainer. ESPECIALLY if Parcells were running our personnel.

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Andre The Giant

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some of you all are just as impatient if not more impatient than Snyder himself. Just chill and give Zorn one more year. By then we should have a definite answer as to if Zorn is the right coach, and if Campbell is the right qb.

Count me as one of these. The team didn't play hard for Zorn against the lesser teams on our schedule. He also tried to run a spread offense with a bunch of guys built for power running.

Cerrato is a mediocre GM at best.

Hiring Bill Parcells addresses both of these issues this year, rather than waiting for the inevitable failure.

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Ok, I'll make the case for Todd Haley again.

Haley is the 41-year old offensive coordinator for the Arizona Cardinals. Before that he was the Cowboys' wide receivers coach, where he got in a very public sideline confrontation with one Terrell Owens. After getting run out of that job, he has built in Arizona a terrific offense out of two admittedly super wide-outs but otherwise a bunch of spare parts. I mean honestly, did you really think Kurt Warner had a Pro Bowl season left in him? Did you even think that five years ago?

(EDIT: More on Kurt Warner this year: his 67.1% completion percentage, 4583 passing yards, 30 passing TDs, and 93.9 passer rating were all his best marks in those categories since 2001. Also, he had a better than 2:1 TD:INT ratio for only the second time in his career, the other being the Super Bowl championship season of 1999. In fact, before this year Kurt Warner had never thrown for over 4500 yards and had a 2:1 TD:INT ratio in the same season, not even in his glory days in St. Louis.)

Arizona's offense was fourth in the league in yards per game, and tied for third in points per game - New Orleans was the only team to outperform Arizona in both categories. Contrast that with Washington, who came in 19th in YPG, and a dismal 28th in points per game. 28th. In front of only Oakland, Cleveland, St. Louis, and Cincinnati.

Now, anyone who can look me in the eyes and tell me with a straight face that Arizona's offensive personnel is THAT MUCH BETTER than ours is going to get laughed at for his troubles.

And if you want to say that Washington is running a new system, fine. But last year was the first year for Haley in Arizona, and they were 7th in PPG, and 12th in YPG. Pretty impressive.

Add to that the fact that Todd Haley is nearly 15 years younger than Jim Zorn, and this, as they say, is a no brainer. ESPECIALLY if Parcells were running our personnel.

You wanna guess how many rush yards Arizona had all season? 1178 combined. Portis had more than that alone. Hell 9 running backs including 3 rookie RB's had more than that alone.

We aren't a passing team. Arizona is. There's a reason they finished DEAD LAST in the NFL in rush ypg averaging less than 75 TEAM rush ypg. They can't run. They averaged 3.5 ypc on over 340 runs all season. That is AWFUL. Now on the other hand we can run. We finished top 10 in rushing offense.

Say we do bring in Haley. Cool, but will he try to make us a pass happy offense? Because we clearly aren't. If he can fix our run offense by dropping Betts and signing or drafting a speedy change of pace back for CP, then I'd be happy. That would allow the pass to open up more and for Colt or JC (preferably Colt) to make plays when he needed too. but if he tried to turn us into a passing team, I think he'd fail..........miserably.

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mcees4life

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Here's my opinion on what should happen. Give Zorn and the current front office regime one more year, if its unsuccessful then I would hire Russ Grimm as HC and Martin Mayhew as Team President/GM.

I'd rather bring in people who wore the colors in battle than to keep bringing in outsiders who really doesn't know what the burgundy and gold represent.

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