Congrats to Jason Campbell

[Teller]

That's because you don't know the difference between a good quarterback and a bad one.

I know you are, but what am I?

[Teller]

ahh, sign of concede. i called u a name? when ? listen, just cause a poster makes valid point that is pretty much irrefutable doesnt mean u have resort to slandering. i gave you TD number since you like to talk stats and defend players based on stats. im still waiting on your counter argument.

I'm just a fanboy, and Mr. Nfl.com, Mr. Irrefutable. I couldn't possibly argue with you.

Seriously, go elsewhere.

This a POSITVE Jason Campbell thread. There are plenty of others for you to cry in if you like.

*edit* Oh, and which 16 game starter threw fewer interceptions than Campbell? There's your TD counter-argument.

[Redskins:Victory_or_Death]

you campbell haters make me laugh. our team as a whole was bad this year. todays loss is as much moss, cp and springs fault as anyone's. look at the 2 best qb's statistically in the league rivers and brees both teams will probably end up 8 and 8. our lines and receivers stink. and our defense has been good but has failed us at crucial times.

So because everyone is at fault makes Campbell LESS culpable? That's silly.

Everyone deserves some blame here, but that doesn't make Campbell any better.

[Redskins:Victory_or_Death]

It was started to congratulate him for being the only starter this season. Period.

Fine. Congrats to JC for being average for 4 years and continuing that trend.

I'm all for continuity when it's deserved.

[Gigantor]

I'd like to give Zorn more time than Campbell.

No! I hate the west coast offense and the last few superbowl winners did not run the WCO. That should tell you something.

Let's get a coach that runs what the winners run.

[simspro4]

Ya'll kidding right with an: JC numbers...

18 comp 30 att and 156 yds and 1 TD

But it was good to see some points on the board finally...

I wanted to see our final game today, but FOX network

choose the dallas and philly game...

[krsone]

I'm just a fanboy, and Mr. Nfl.com, Mr. Irrefutable. I couldn't possibly argue with you.

Seriously, go elsewhere.

This a POSITVE Jason Campbell thread. There are plenty of others for you to cry in if you like.

*edit* Oh, and which 16 game starter threw fewer interceptions than Campbell? There's your TD counter-argument.

but what else could it be? i mean u dont even have to goto nfl.com to see how bad campbell's TD numbers is. if you saw all redskins game, you can clearly see this guy campbell has his moments here and there but majority of the time, he is one of the worst starting QB in the league. i dont know what more is there for me to say. and your constant denial makes me think ur a fanboy. hence, i called u a fanboy. and i had no idea calling somebody fanboy was name calling. you fanboys call us fairweather fans and i dont take any issues with it. i dont even know what fairweather fan is.

but like ive said. u talked stats. i said u pointed out useless stats. i posted meaningful stat... and u still havent replied regarding it. u sure to disgress alot man.

[fwo40]

This is like getting the attendance award in school vs being on the honor roll.

Man what a ****ty season

[Redskins:Victory_or_Death]

Fine, let's review:

'00 - Johnson/George --> both average

'01 - Banks --> terrible

'02 - Matthews/Ramsey/Wuerffel --> all three awful

'03 - Same as '02 --> more of the same

'04 - Ramsey/Brunell --> average

'05 - Ramsey/Brunell --> average

'06 - Brunell/Campbell --> average

'07 - Campbell/Collins --> average

'08 - Campbell --> average

Yup. Whatta trend. :applause:

[Gibbs Hog Heaven]

I agree.

Congratulations to Jason Campbell.

A very mediocre QB that has found his niche as the starting QB of a VERY mediocre organisation.

Well done Sir. That's a heck of a trick if you can pull it off. :applause:

Hail.

[DCranon21]

That's because you don't know the difference between a good quarterback and a bad one.

Today Jason Campbell didn't turn the ball over, and Farve turned the ball over as usual(3 INT's, one returned for a pick 6). I rather have a good QB who can get the job done vs a quarterback who will turn it over on crucial times and have the team lose. Today was on the defense, who folded like a chair against the Niners.

[Teller]

but what else could it be? i mean u dont even have to goto nfl.com to see how bad campbell's TD numbers is. if you saw all redskins game, you can clearly see this guy campbell has his moments here and there but majority of the time, he is one of the worst starting QB in the league. i dont know what more is there for me to say. and your constant denial makes me think ur a fanboy. hence, i called u a fanboy. and i had no idea calling somebody fanboy was name calling. you fanboys call us fairweather fans and i dont take any issues with it. i dont even know what fairweather fan is.

but like ive said. u talked stats. i said u pointed out useless stats. i posted meaningful stat... and u still havent replied regarding it. u sure to disgress alot man.

So you have to label people that disagree with you? Mmmmm....OK.

It's pretty simple. You apparently want a gunslinger who will make huge plays (and also make huge mistakes, like Favre, today, yet again).

I prefer a Doug Williams, or a Joe Theismann. Guys that aren't going to go out and dominate every week, but they're not going to COST you games either.

Can we just have a difference of opinion? Or do you have to label me? Meh, nevermind, we've already answered that.

"u sure to disgress alot man."

Once more in English, and I'll respond to that part too.

[Willy Wonka]

Today Jason Campbell didn't turn the ball over, and Farve turned the ball over as usual(3 INT's, one returned for a pick 6). I rather have a good QB who can get the job done vs a quarterback who will turn it over on crucial times and have the team lose. Today was on the defense, who folded like a chair against the Niners.

Campbell's stats today are still mediocre at best. Not to mention, just because Campbell seemed to have an ok day today doesn't really help your argument for his entire season. Winning today would have been nice but it was only a helpful reminder of what a mediocre QB he really is. And please, you can't compare Campbell and Favre. Favre is leagues better then Campbell and at this rate, always will be.

[Teller]

Campbell's stats today are still mediocre at best. Not to mention, just because Campbell seemed to have an ok day today doesn't really help your argument for his entire season. Winning today would have been nice but it was only a helpful reminder of what a mediocre QB he really is. And please, you can't compare Campbell and Favre. Favre is leagues better then Campbell and at this rate, always will be.

Not anymore he's not.

Present one fact to the contrary, please.

[Willy Wonka]

Not anymore he's not.

Present one fact to the contrary, please.

A Superbowl ring.

[krsone]

I'm just a fanboy, and Mr. Nfl.com, Mr. Irrefutable. I couldn't possibly argue with you.

still nothing on his TD numbers huh?

Seriously, go elsewhere.

why? why not you?

This a POSITVE Jason Campbell thread. There are plenty of others for you to cry in if you like.

yeah and? people who doesnt have anything positive to say about campbell cant come and debate?

*edit* Oh, and which 16 game starter threw fewer interceptions than Campbell? There's your TD counter-argument.

LOL. we are in trouble.

[Ant15fromNJ]

Colt brennan!!!

[krsone]

So you have to label people that disagree with you? Mmmmm....OK.

It's pretty simple. You apparently want a gunslinger who will make huge plays (and also make huge mistakes, like Favre, today, yet again).

I prefer a Doug Williams, or a Joe Theismann. Guys that aren't going to go out and dominate every week, but they're not going to COST you games either.

Can we just have a difference of opinion? Or do you have to label me? Meh, nevermind, we've already answered that.

"u sure to disgress alot man."

Once more in English, and I'll respond to that part too.

king od disgression here huh?

lets try this one more time.

only one starting QB has thrown less TD than campbell. there are about 6 other QB that have thrown less TDs than campbell they have played less games than campbell but TD numbers are almost as many as campbell.

one starting QB kerry collins have thrown more TDs than Campbell.. is that clear enough for you?

campbell, one of the worst starting QB in the nfl.

[JdoubleU]

As usual, the haters want this guy to be Tom Brady. Is he an upper echelon QB? Not right now, and may never be. Is he on the level of the Bears/Vikes/Browns? Of course not! He's somewhere in the middle, & unless you can get him a Steve Smith, Randy Moss, Etc. (Good luck with our GM/owner) he's not going to set the world on fire. Skins fans who've been around long enough to see how a great TEAM can help a Rypien, Doug Williams, or Jay Schroeder already know that JC can be a winner, just put the right components in place. Good Lord, listening to these threads, it's so apparent we have such a loser fan base after Snyder checked in.

[RocketCitySkins]

king od disgression here huh?

lets try this one more time.

only one starting QB has thrown less TD than campbell. there are about 6 other QB that have thrown less TDs than campbell they have played less games than campbell but TD numbers are almost as many as campbell.

one starting QB kerry collins have thrown more TDs than Campbell.. is that clear enough for you?

campbell, one of the worst starting QB in the nfl.

We had this same discussion a few weeks ago when only half of the quarterbacks with more TD's had a better win/lose record. More TD's does not automatically mean more wins.

[krsone]

As usual, the haters want this guy to be Tom Brady. Is he an upper echelon QB? Not right now, and may never be. Is he on the level of the Bears/Vikes/Browns? Of course not! He's somewhere in the middle, & unless you can get him a Steve Smith, Randy Moss, Etc. (Good luck with our GM/owner) he's not going to set the world on fire. Skins fans who've been around long enough to see how a great TEAM can help a Rypien, Doug Williams, or Jay Schroeder already know that JC can be a winner, just put the right components in place. Good Lord, listening to these threads, it's so apparent we have such a loser fan base after Snyder checked in.

nah, how about just be like thigpen, or orton, or garrard, or flacco, ryan.. who all have thrown more TDs or even freaking s hill who has thrown 12 TDs, same as campbell with a new interim head coach playing only 8 games this yr. huh, how about that huh buddy? then we "campbell haters" might stopping hating. hows that?

[Teller]

why? why not you?

Because I'm in a POSTIVE JC thread, saying POSITIVE things about JC.

I'll be the bigger man though. If you're the competition, it sure as hell won't be difficult.

[RocketCitySkins]

Because I'm in a POSTIVE JC thread, saying POSITIVE things about JC.

I'll be the bigger man though. If you're the competition, it sure as hell won't be difficult.

Well, it was supposed to be Positive. It's just the Jason haters don't know what off-topic means. They only have one topic to begin with.

[krsone]

We had this same discussion a few weeks ago when only half of the quarterbacks with more TD's had a better win/lose record. More TD's does not automatically mean more wins.

and i told u cause of our 4th ranked defense, we were able to win a few more games than we should have? surely u dont think we won those games because our offense was HOT huh? listen, you need to be able to distinguish what wins us games as oppose to just using useless stats and win loss record just to defend some one. titans are what they are not becuse kerry collins was on fire. it's becasue their running game and defense was consistent all yr. very similar to redskins. our defense was money and portis was killing it early in the season, not because campbell was lighting up. not hard to understand.

[BTBIRD 227]

I sometimes wonder if some of the offensive players dont have faith in Cambell. Remember the Chicago game last year, Cambell gets hurt and Collins came in to replace Cambell, and Wow the team just took off as we all know. Granted the system was different for the offense last year, but I see the same holding the ball to long and takeing a sack or just does not know what to do in some situations just like last year. So are some of the players just going thru the motions to earn a pay check on offense and kind of given up on Cambell? and if this is true Zorn is really in a bad way. Maybe Zorn allready knows Cambell is not cerebal enough to grasp or feel the flow and pace of the game, but Cambell is part of the playing cards Zorn was dealt for this year. I would not be surprised if the Skins bring in another veteran QB who is allready knows WC offense, who that would be I don't know or even if there is someone available. But, something has to happen soon for ths sake of the franchise.:logo: