Poll: Does Biden leave the ticket and Hillary takes his place? - Read this one

[88Comrade2000]

Biden recently said that Hillary would've been the better pick. Could he be paving the way for his leaving and Hillary being added?

Poll: Does Biden leave the ticket and Hillary takes his place?

okay, this time there will be a poll.

[Jumbo]

Are you drunk? : )

[88Comrade2000]

If Biden left and Hillary took his place; it would sure make the race even more interesting and give the momentum back to Obama. The thing is, even though they will come up with some cover story; it will make Obama look desperate. Why didn't Obama pick her in the first place? I think a switch would really make Obama look weak.

So, I don't think this rumor will actually happen.

[33]

Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water.

[88Comrade2000]

Sorry for the double thread. I posted the first time during the 3am cycle time; so I couldn't get the poll in.

As for my post; there are some people who think Biden will drop out. If Biden drops out; it only for one reason. For Hillary to take his place. I don't think that will happen but you never know in this crazy election year.

[Jumbo]

[WVUforREDSKINS]

[HogNose]

Biden recently said that Hillary would've been the better pick. Could he be paving the way for his leaving and Hillary being added?

Poll: Does Biden leave the ticket and Hillary takes his place?

okay, this time there will be a poll.

Biden is gaffe proned..it was classic Biden. He was paying her a complement and went a little too far. Don't look into it too much. Biden is a regular guy and likeable.

BTW, did you hear about Biden's latest gaffe? Asking the guy in the wheelchair to stand up so the crowd could see him. :doh:

"Chuck, stand up, let the people see you," Biden shouted to State Senator Chuck Graham, before realizing, to his horror, that Graham uses a wheelchair. "Oh, God love ya," Biden said. "What am I talking about?"

[Ignatius J.]

You don't get it. The fact that biden is a decent guy and will say this about hillary is why he got the pick. As a GOP hatchet man I can understand how values confuse you, but back in the real world, we respect people that are gracious in victory.

[Ax]

I predicted in another thread that he might come up with some mysterious ailment/emergency/poisoning, forcing him to drop out. Hillary would then be added to the ticket to insure that there is at least one set of balls on the team.

So yeah, I'll stick with that.

[Jumbo]

Ig, C'mon dude, you been around as long as Rdskns2000, and both of you longer than me---and he doesn't read anything like a real "GOP hatchet man" to me. I was playing with him here in this thread, but he's a pretty reasonable guy and a great ES'er. : )

Now Ax, on the other hand, is a real hatchet man

[Ignatius J.]

Jumbo,

I think that people who question the choice of joe biden as VP haven't been paying attention. Go back and watch the debates and watch how barack responded to Joe Biden's criticisms of Barack's positions. There is nothing but respect there because all along, no one understood Barack and where he was coming from better than Joe Biden because they share a common set of values.

I love Joe Biden. In the lead up to Barack's selection people who were paying attention to Barack were in unison that Joe was the only reasonable choice, not because of some calculated move to assuage voter's concerns about experience but because Joe Biden gets it. He truly gets what Barack wants to do for this country.

I know that Barack made his decision by asking himself who he wanted standing next to him when he made the important decisions that are going to plot the course of this country for the next 8 years. Hillary, as great as she is, never understood where Barack was coming from and that problem was at the core of Barack's selection of Biden for VP.

When I hear people spewing the right wing talking points, I'm going to call them out as hatchet men. This was not an instance of Biden making room for Hillary to come in to save the day, this was just Joe being Joe. The guy who skipped out on all of those coaching sessions where washington insiders tell you "you can't say that if you want to be president." Instead, Joe was too busy taking the train home every night to be with his kids. To me that is a sign that Joe gets it. Be honest, be forthright, and speak your mind, even if it gets you in trouble. Who can't look at the past eight years and say that this is exactly what we need right now?

Had Joe been more interested in his career than in speaking his mind I believe he would be president by now, but that's not who Joe is. Joe Biden is who John McCain used to be. I think that straight talk must be rewarded and every attempt to turn straight talk into a negative needs to be cut off the moment it rears it's ugly head.

So yeah, I'm calling this a hatchet job, because that's exactly what it is.

[Burgold]

If he does, than McCain wins. It's too big a concession move and Biden hasn't made any mistake worth booting him.

[GoSkins561]

The poll does not have enough options, even though I think he is a decent and likable guy, I refuse to admit to him being the man.

[btfoom]

I hope this does not count as posting 'politics', as I'm trying to stay away from that.

From a non-partisan point of view, I think that having Hillary replace Biden would be a big mistake for the Obama Presidential bid. At this point, I think it would look like they are panicing and trying to keep in step with the McCain group. In politics, especially Presidential politics, I think a candidate needs to show leadership and I believe making the change would be seized upon by the Republicans as showing weakness and reactionary. It may bring a few women 'back', but I think it would have more in the party upset that Biden was pushed out.

[88Comrade2000]

I can take it. It's a rumor. The rest is my opinion. If this were to happen, it would only be to add Hillary. I personally thought Obama made a good choice for veep.

Here's a wacky prediction someone made:

Sarah Palin was only picked to satisfy the right wingers. Mccain knew about all the problems and that she would eventually be forced to be dropped from the ticket. Then Mccain can then say he tried and then pick Leiberman or whoever he really wanted.

[Sarge]

I love it

Oh what a tangled web we weave.........

What a rookie pick, and now Obama is stuck with it

When he selected Biden, he did so to shore up his multitude of weaknesses. But simultaneously it took away a lot of his BS "CHANGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"message, since Biden has been around Washinton longer than McCain

Then McCain pulls the absolutely brilliant move of picking Palin, and the dems have been stumbling ever since

And..............waiting to the side is Schrillary

If Obama pulls this move, or Biden bows out for some chicken**** reason, Obama's rookie ass will have to go crawling to Don Hillaroni and kiss her ring, and possibly her big, cellulite filled ass, for her to come to his rescue.

It'll only hightlight his decision making abilty, or lack thereof, even more to the American people.

I mean after all, if he can't make a solid VP choice after weeks of vetting (Hell, he even ****ed up the text mesage thing to his drones) what kind of decisions is he going ot make the next time the commies roll into another country, or Iran announces theri nuke capacity is going on line tomorrow?

Rookie

[Ax]

Now Ax, on the other hand, is a real hatchet man

Actually, I prefer the tomahawk. Because a good scalping should be messy, and gruesome, in order to achieve the desired effect.

[Baculus]

I predicted in another thread that he might come up with some mysterious ailment/emergency/poisoning, forcing him to drop out. Hillary would then be added to the ticket to insure that there is at least one set of balls on the team.

So yeah, I'll stick with that.

That is what I would figure - that he would have to withdraw due to some physical ailment.

[boobiemiles]

Hillary should have dropped Bill.

[Ax]

That is what I would figure - that he would have to withdraw due to some physical ailment.

As much as some would like to poo poo the thought, it is a possibility.

1. Because life really can throw the meanest curves on the planet.

2. Anything, and I mean, ANYTHING, is possible where politics and the Clinton's are involved.

Did I say, ANYTHING?

[Teller]

If that would happen, I would be doubled over in laughter for weeks on end...hell....I'd just have to hope they'd get me upright in time to go pull the lever on election day.

There's never been a more gift-wrapped election in my lifetime than this one for the dems.

Dropping Biden and running Hillary would be the final straw, and would completely obliterate any opportunity to even breathe the word "change." Further, it would be an even more obvious case of misguided pandering than when we ran Alan Keyes against Obama for the Illinois senate seat.