chipwhich Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Is that the lime Kool Aid? :laugh: My 2 favorite medicaire stories from my father caring for ailing parents. Sitting on hold for two hours and a recording comes on and says please call back later and disconnects him. Calling to find out why he got billed for 4 months, it is supposed to be quarterly. The person said "Right, 4 months, thats quarterly" Some people on here might not get that. Thats universal health care for you, I saw someone posting here yesterday how great that system is. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Take the pill, brother. Soon enough, just on my own terms. Working on something that I hope someone like you will actually be willing to be a part of Once I can feed my huge ego with it, taking the blue pill won't be so hard, and will probably be quite liberating Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Gut Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I'm done voting for the establishment (Republicans/Democrats). I'm leaning right now towards just throwing away my vote and writing in Lou Dobbs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codeorama Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Nothing particularly wrong with making up your mind. I voted straight Republican for my first few elections, because I thought Welfare was out of control. I voted Democrat for the last few because I felt the GOP had become a bunch of religious zealots who thought the biggest problems in this country were drugs and porn. (I've never used drugs. ) But in my experience, the vast majority of party loyalists are so because they've bought the Party's Kool Aid about how the other Party is Satan incarnate. (And yes, I notice the tendency in myself.) Wow... I could have pretty much posted this word for word. :notworthy The only difference is that in the last election, I voted liberatarian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I have no idea at this moment. I'd like to vote 3rd party but I don't get that excited about any that are running. I place priority as Energy, Supreme Court, Economy, Foreign Policy, and country morale and spirit. Living in Virginia, my vote could help decide the outcome so I haven't decided not to vote for Obama or McCain in case it becomes very close and I feel one of them trumps the other. I'm not very happy with either but do lean McCain because I think he's killing Obama on Energy and the war. But I like Obama for all the positive and inspirational factors he betrays. I'm not big on his policies, think Universal Health Care is a huge mistake and feel his Energy policy sucks combined with his "green jobs" slogan. I'm not big on Democratic fiscal policy, especially their domestic. I get the "spend the money here" cry, but it's how they want to spend it that makes me cringe. However, I know this makes me fall for the same damn political game I despise, voting for one of the two parties. So I don't know what I'm going to do and I hate the feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuong9 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I also think Bama is really shady. Why do people think Obama is more shady than McCain. I hear this all the time, but no one ever backs it up. Could it be due to his lack of experience, or broad solutions to problems? Then again I don't follow politics very closely, so it may just be my ignorance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECU-ALUM Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I've pretty much made my choice...if they pick the wrong person as the VP the other one could get my vote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzzfan25 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Don't know, because I can't Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjah Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Why do people think Obama is more shady than McCain. I hear this all the time, but no one ever backs it up. That's because there isn't that much to back it up, in comparison with other candidates past and present. People are more sensitive to Obama's baggage because it's new. The situation is much like an amputee with Phantom Limb syndrome complaining about a fresh bug bite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan133 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I'm voting Thomas Jefferson as a write in, just to make a point, but If McCain was all of a sudden a real conservative (not the "Fred Thompson" variety) I'd vote for him. same for Obama, but thats infinatly less likely than the already infinatly unlikely scenario I put forth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinfan133 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I'm done voting for the establishment (Republicans/Democrats). I'm leaning right now towards just throwing away my vote and writing in Lou Dobbs. join me in helping elect Jefferson back for a third term. never mind hes been dead for nearly two centuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissU28 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Why do people think Obama is more shady than McCain. I hear this all the time, but no one ever backs it up. Could it be due to his lack of experience, or broad solutions to problems?Then again I don't follow politics very closely, so it may just be my ignorance. That's because there isn't that much to back it up, in comparison with other candidates past and present.People are more sensitive to Obama's baggage because it's new. The situation is much like an amputee with Phantom Limb syndrome complaining about a fresh bug bite. There's no one thing to use as "evidence" as to why I think he's shady. You can't really pinpoint why you think of certain people as shady. It's nothing about Obama's past, nothing about his "baggage"... there's just something about him that's sketchy to me. I don't get a good feeling about him, and I'm the type of person that listens to that part of my brain when I make decisions. Personal opinion, can't explain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I've already decided that we're *uck** either way, so why vote? :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinsFanInTX Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 If you listen to Obama you would think George Bush is going to be on the ballot. I do not think McCain and Bush are the same. The 3rd Bush term is coming to an end soon. I'm ready for the 1st McCain term in January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bang Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I'm going to vote in one of the grey areas.. I am leaning one way, but I wouldn't say it's too heavily. I've officially not made up my mind yet. ~Bang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Yes, I've made up my mind as to who I'm voting for...particularly because I don't like the other candidate's plans regarding health care and national security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCMONEY Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Obama gets my vote. Its time for a change. These last 8 years have been the worst in my life. Stevie Wonder can see this. I just hope the election process is straight and fair this time. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweedr01 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Wow, there are a lot more people voting for McCain than I figured I would see when I saw this thread, not that I mind at all. I guess it just seems when some threads are started, more people come to back Obama on his criticisms than are there to point out his flaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twa Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 No, not happy with any of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted June 25, 2008 Author Share Posted June 25, 2008 Wow, there are a lot more people voting for McCain than I figured I would see when I saw this thread, not that I mind at all. I guess it just seems when some threads are started, more people come to back Obama on his criticisms than are there to point out his flaws. That should be a lesson learned then, shouldn't it? Many of the critical threads were nothing but underhanded shady character assassination. In those cases, people came to his defense. Don't assume those people necessarily support various policy positions he has taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ldysknzfn1 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I know who I don't want to vote for but I have no idea who I want to vote for...does that make sense?:laugh: I don't want to vote for either of the candidates if the truth be told, but I know not voting is a vote for the candidate that I'm absolutely not voting for, sooooooooo what's a girl to do?:whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander PK Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 I voted "No, but leaning heavily (for McCain) I refuse to become to overly involved in these presidential debates this year. Four years ago, I was on here debating for Bush everyday, but my opinion of politicians in general has really dropped off in the last 4 years, regardless of party. I found it funny when nearly two years ago, the country voted in Democrats en masse expecting Aids and Cancer to be cured overnight, an economic boom, and an Iraq pullout in a week, and we got nothing of the sort. I think it's safe to say that nothing has changed, and things are pretty much the same or worse (depending on your point of view) since that election. To borrow from the movie "Courage Under Fire" the COLD, HARD, TRUTH of the matter, is NO MATTER WHO is elected President, McCain or Obama, not much if anything is going to change in your life or mine. IMO, our problems go much deeper than what any one man, even a President can fix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MissU28 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 To borrow from the movie "Courage Under Fire" the COLD, HARD, TRUTH of the matter, is NO MATTER WHO is elected President, McCain or Obama, not much if anything is going to change in your life or mine. IMO, our problems go much deeper than what any one man, even a President can fix. I agree. I don't know what people think obama is going to change...yeah, he has different views on things, but any decisions he makes aren't going to be immediate and we aren't really going to feel effects over here on the "common people" side. Americans love quick fixes...but 99% of the time quick fixes don't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer17 Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Im voting for McCain and straight GOP down ticket. Because I dont think the country can afford another 2 years like the last two we've had with the Dems controlling Congress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Posted June 25, 2008 Share Posted June 25, 2008 Im voting for McCain and straight GOP down ticket. Because I dont think the country can afford another 2 years like the last two we've had with the Dems controlling Congress. 'Course, your biggest complaint for the last year about the "Dem controlled Congress" is that they haven't successfully changed anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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