Hubbs Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 I've often wondered what other peoples' opinions are on this subject. To be clear, the exact question is thus: Do the marijuana laws currently in place in the US actually reduce the overall availability of marijuana? In other words, if marijuana were legalized tomorrow, would there be a significant number of people who couldn't get their hands on any wacky tobacky before, but could with the legalization (assuming the same age limit as alcohol)? My own experiences lead me to answer no. I grew up going to a very, very small private school, and even before I started shaving, I could have bought some weed at any time that I wanted to. I can only assume that it's even easier at much larger schools, especially those in inner cities. And college is, well, college. It's literally a matter of yelling into a hallway, "Hey, anyone got some pot?" I can't name a single person from any part of my conscious memory who would be unable to have a bag of marijuana in his/her hands within hours of wanting some. If you throw out the possibility of marijuana being available to all ages if legalized (which would never happen), then I don't even believe that underage smoking would change, because alcohol and pot were both equally available throughout my minor years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Of course. And I think a lot of folks would try it who wouldn't under normal circumstances. Mostly older people imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackest Eyes Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 I think usage would go up a little because some people would not be scared to smoke. Then again, I may be wrong because most people don't smoke pot out in public anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Absolutely. If it was legal usage would be much higher. Since they approved medical marijuana here in California the people I personally know that use it, have increased their usage significantly. Once you are out of school, it is not difficult to obtain, but is more of a hassle. Walking into a store on your lunch hour, makes it way more convenient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubbs Posted June 12, 2008 Author Share Posted June 12, 2008 Of course. And I think a lot of folks would try it who wouldn't under normal circumstances. Mostly older people imo. Trying it isn't part of this particular question, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubbs Posted June 12, 2008 Author Share Posted June 12, 2008 I think usage would go up a little because some people would not be scared to smoke. Then again, I may be wrong because most people don't smoke pot out in public anyway. That's not availability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC_RedskinsFan Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 I think they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Kenzo Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 This is true. Anybody is one phone call away from toking it up. Hell, I can smell it from my room right now...:paranoid: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan07 Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 doesn't keep me from doing it. AS long as I'm in a safe place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zoony Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 That's not availability. Trying it isn't part of this particular question, though. I guess you're asking then... not whether it would effect demand, but would it affect supply? The answer to that question is yes too. :whoknows: Have you been to Holland? You can step off the plane, without knowing a single person, and it's a buyers market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackest Eyes Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 That's not availability. Yeah, my bad. Pot is easy to get regardless of where you're at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Shot Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Alright now!! Wont you listen? When I first met you, didnt realize I cant forget you, for your suprize You introduced me, to my mind And left me wanting, you and your kind I love you, oh you know it My life was empty forever on a down Until you took me, showed me around My life is free now, my life is clear I love you sweet leaf, though you cant hear Come on now, try it out Straight people dont know, what your about They put you down and shut you out You gave to me a new belief And soon the world will love you sweet leaf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsBry Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 If you could legally grow it, people could/would give it to friends, like people give away fresh veggies from their gardens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 I think they have an effect, but probably ineffective for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeknows Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 woooo hooo my favorite subject anyone got questions send them here lol NO laws do NOT affect marijuana usage...... they do however affect supply because after a big bust the scene goes dry. i just walked in sat down loaded the bong with some NYC DIESEL and logged on .... he he he i dont care who knows i never have and yes i smoke ANYWHERE i want..... with respect to others anyway..... i would never smoke say ..... at a game.....however if a good band is playing...... im going in high and im gettin high while im there..... i dont drink or do anything else.... a joint to me is like a glass of wine to you..... the simple fact of the matter is that this drug has been demonized and made illegal for the profiteers of the early 20th century and has only succeeded in incarcerating non violoent offenders of victimless crimes!!! PS - yes i have do and will smoke a joint walking down the street..... its my life and i dont care what others think ..... and i have no fear of the cops and i have smoked for 22 years while smoking at least 2 joints worth a day for the last 7 -8 years. yes i can and have quit when i have wanted to or needed to.... however it is a part of my life .... and i have been observed in public by the cops smoking and never have i had a word said to me about it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itoolu Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 The reason that I stoped "toking up" was not because of laws but because it is hard to find a job that didnt random test employees. Im also one of those kids that smoked all day everyday from age 15 to about 23 and always said I was a stoner 4 life. It was also easier to get than alcohol was. I had dealers that were old that would sell me a bag but would never go to the liqour store and buy me alcohol. Wow I never thought about it that way. So I found it easier to get an illegal substance than a legal substance, man I would have done better in school if pot was legal........ maybe.:laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 I voted no but then immediately thought the opposite. I think it does add discouragement. I don't think it's right, lawful, or just, but I do think some people are more hesitant to it due to it's legality. At the same token, I think those rebels who smoke would do so just as they drink. The issue I have with weed is that it's a pathway drug and I think making it legal would limit those jumps to other, worse drugs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeknows Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 The reason that I stoped "toking up" was not because of laws but because it is hard to find a job that didnt random test employees. Im also one of those kids that smoked all day everyday from age 15 to about 23 and always said I was a stoner 4 life. It was also easier to get than alcohol was. I had dealers that were old that would sell me a bag but would never go to the liqour store and buy me alcohol. Wow I never thought about it that way.So I found it easier to get an illegal substance than a legal substance, man I would have done better in school if pot was legal........ maybe.:laugh: i dont know what field you are in but back in the mid 90's it was decided that testing procedures were as follows: you can be tested for any job for entry you can be tested in the even of medically necessary injury for insurance purposes if you have a govt job you MAY be randomly tested.... if your company has any govt contracts you may be tested randomly.... if your job affects public safety .... you may be randomly tested..... HOWEVER if you are not tested for job entry you MAY ONLY be tested in event of an accident requiring medical attention YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED to submit to any random test unless the above outlines describe your situation yup decision circa 97 - 98 ? i remember it clearly just too stoned to provied link.......... he he Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Symbol Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Making it legal wouldn't make a difference. To be honest, it might even cause people to slow down more. Think about the fact that they'd then begin to regulate and tax the use of marijuana. As much as people still smoke and continue to use cigarettes, people that I know have either quit or have been attempting to quit because of the taxes bring the prices too high. This would be the same thing that would happen to marijuana, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocolateCitySkin Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 woooo hooo my favorite subjectanyone got questions send them here lol NO laws do NOT affect marijuana usage...... they do however affect supply because after a big bust the scene goes dry. i just walked in sat down loaded the bong with some NYC DIESEL and logged on .... he he he i dont care who knows i never have and yes i smoke ANYWHERE i want..... with respect to others anyway..... i would never smoke say ..... at a game.....however if a good band is playing...... im going in high and im gettin high while im there..... i dont drink or do anything else.... a joint to me is like a glass of wine to you..... the simple fact of the matter is that this drug has been demonized and made illegal for the profiteers of the early 20th century and has only succeeded in incarcerating non violoent offenders of victimless crimes!!! PS - yes i have do and will smoke a joint walking down the street..... its my life and i dont care what others think ..... and i have no fear of the cops and i have smoked for 22 years while smoking at least 2 joints worth a day for the last 7 -8 years. yes i can and have quit when i have wanted to or needed to.... however it is a part of my life .... and i have been observed in public by the cops smoking and never have i had a word said to me about it..... through the years of being an occasional toker it seems to me that september -october its usually harder to get than the rest of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeknows Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 The issue I have with weed is that it's a pathway drug and I think making it legal would limit those jumps to other, worse drugs. :bsflag: actually SUAGR is the gateway drug..... we get it as a child and it creates a chemical high in the systema and creates a rush of energy and you CAN be addicted to sugar then usually comes FD&C red #5 ..... creates abundance of enery and usually hyperactivity to the point of total loss of control in some kids and can also be a contributor to adhd then usually comes cigarettes or booze..... then pot and maybe coke and so on it usually comes down to availabilityto those who have a propensity to be a PLEASURE SEEKER please dont lay the load of everyone elses issues on a single source...... gateway drug.... pluh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeknows Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 through the years of being an occasional toker it seems to me that september -october its usually harder to get than the rest of the year. mid july and also november through december here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springfield Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 through the years of being an occasional toker it seems to me that september -october its usually harder to get than the rest of the year. Christmas time is always a good time for some chronic. I always called it the Christmas trees when I smoked. It was like a nice, little, stinky gift... just in time for Christmas! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeknows Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 Christmas time is always a good time for some chronic. I always called it the Christmas trees when I smoked. It was like a nice, little, stinky gift... just in time for Christmas! mmmmm hmmmm i nice lil kind bud sack from a friend..... whata gift!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Posted June 12, 2008 Share Posted June 12, 2008 I guess you're asking then... not whether it would effect demand, but would it affect supply?The answer to that question is yes too. :whoknows: Have you been to Holland? You can step off the plane, without knowing a single person, and it's a buyers market. Yet a higher percentage of the US population smokes than the Dutch. Not that there aren't a number of other factors at play ... just food for thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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