Hubbs Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 This is a pretty minor detail in the grand scheme of things, but I figure, with another two months of offseason to kill, it merits some discussion. One thing that's always bugged me about Jason's mechanics is that his play action fake couldn't fool Helen Keller on a foggy day. Some quarterbacks seem to put a lot of emphasis on really, really selling their play action moves, but Campbell usually barely moves his arm out from his body for a split-second, often while he's not even close to the back, before returning to a passing stance. Any defender whose view of the backfield isn't completely blocked will be able to see what's going on; and if a defender's view of the backfield is completely blocked, they're probably reading the blocking like they should be, anyway. As far as I know, Zorn hasn't mentioned this when talking about adjusting Jason's mechanics. Am I the only one who's concerned at all? Every defender will occasionally peek into the backfield, and it seems to me that consistently sloppy play action fakes will cost us an advantage several times per game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tastes Like Chicken Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 I recall seeing footage of Seahawks practices, and the play-action fake was stressed over and over and over. If Zorn learned anything or picked anything up while being under Holmgren, this should be one of them. Being a former QB himself should help additionally. I'm not overly concerned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Colt Brennan's the best play action QB ever!!!!! Just thought I'd throw that out there before someone else does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubbs Posted June 8, 2008 Author Share Posted June 8, 2008 I recall seeing footage of Seahawks practices, and the play-action fake was stressed over and over and over. If Zorn learned anything or picked anything up while being under Holmgren, this should be one of them. Being a former QB himself should help additionally. I'm not overly concerned. That's very encouraging. The odd thing is, you'd think a perfect play action fake would be the first thing that they would have hammered into Campbell at Auburn, given the running game they had there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdskn4Lyf21 Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 Colt Brennan's the best play action QB ever!!!!!Just thought I'd throw that out there before someone else does. But Collins has all that experience! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Campbell17 Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 I think he does a short play action thing because he has such a long arm so he can go into his passing stance quicker. Another factor could be that Portis is a beast at pass blocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 But Collins has all that experience! But, but Colt set all those records in college! Ha. Beat that, Todd Collins! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdskn4Lyf21 Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 But, but Colt set all those records in college!Ha. Beat that, Todd Collins! But, but Todd.......Todd blogs!!! :type: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted June 8, 2008 Share Posted June 8, 2008 But, but Todd.......Todd blogs!!!:type: :mad: Grrr. I'll get you one day Todd Collins! I'll be as cool as you one day!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BthatRAD09 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 well todds cuter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CRobi21 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 well todds cuter Can't argue that. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 well todds cuter It's not Colt's fault that his offensive line got blown up by Georgia, or he would be cuter too! Collins had a better o-line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalSkins Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 But, but Colt set all those records in college!Ha. Beat that, Todd Collins! TC holds the highest completion percentage of any Michigan QB ever. Take that Brady. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoggLife Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I recall seeing footage of Seahawks practices, and the play-action fake was stressed over and over and over. If Zorn learned anything or picked anything up while being under Holmgren, this should be one of them. Being a former QB himself should help additionally. I'm not overly concerned. Did I ever mention that I love chicken??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 well todds cuter Can't argue that.:laugh: It's not Colt's fault that his offensive line got blown up by Georgia, or he would be cuter too! Collins had a better o-line :rubeyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinSabbath Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I completely agree with you OP; Campbell's fakes are just plain awful. But I think a lot of it has to do with how much TIME it takes him to bend down for the (fake) handoff, then stand back up to his full height. Zorn has been preaching about how JC should be "smaller in the pocket" so he can speed up his release. By bending his knees a little, not standing up straight, and keeping his elbows inside his body while he drops back, JC will dramatically improve his quick release, his accuracy, and his evasive abilities. I believe this change in his pocket stance will help him correct his play action flaws as well. It will be much easier for him to move in and out of his throwing stance. :2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corrupt3d Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 But guuuuys....Romo sits to pee 95 RATING!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsOrlando Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Have him watch hours of Joey T, he was a great PA passer. Of course he could just work on it but I believe forcing him to watch Theismann sounds better on a message board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregpeck99 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Me thinks this stuff about JC being too tall to be a top flight QB is alot of BS. If he has to alter his stance ... crouch down ... and play from an unnatural (to him) position ... he will never succeed. He is being set up to fail. He will be gone by 2009. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commyderm2 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 aren't the Manning brothers both 6'5 each?? I'm pretty sure at least one of those guys are a top flight QB.. Cambell ain't much taller than that and Payton is one of the best PA QB's EVER! so what's the deal here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redskins:Victory_or_Death Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Colt Brennan's the best play action QB ever!!!!!Just thought I'd throw that out there before someone else does. You suck and now I have to hate you. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrepDC Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Yeah I don't really understand the "too tall" theory either, but I figured this was just some QB secret I never heard of... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrepDC Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Anyone have video of any of Cambell's play action fakes? I never noticed any of the things the OP mentions, although I am not doubting him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris0894 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 :rubeyes: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdskn4Lyf21 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 That's pretty cool PCS....how come I never had one to begin with :whoknows: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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