Blackest Eyes Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 don't you be ragging on Herman Li, he's the man. Actually, nothing he does sounds good. He plays zero melody, and plays so fast he can't even play his own solos at tempo on his own record. Pro Tools for the win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgun88 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 is it just me, or are his fingers long as ****!curse me and my short, girly fingers Some aspects of guitaring are alot easier if you have long fingers. Don't worry mine are not that long either, but they aren't girly. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 love me some carcass and arch enemy. good call. the amott's are sick. Word. And on that note, here are two Top 5's - one Metal, one not - that contain 10 absolutely essential players, in no order. Remember, songwriting counts, always. Top 5 Metal: Iommi - Sabbath Rhoads - Ozzy Dime - Pantera Tipton - Priest Akerfeldt - Opeth Top 5 other: Gilmour - Floyd Kreiger - Doors Schon - Journey Reinhardt - Jazz Howe - Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackest Eyes Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Akerfeldt - Opeth Mike is an incredibly soulful player. I met him once on the Damnation tour. Incredibly nice guy. Really funny as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMetal Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Wow, I could live in this thread. Metal guitar is my thing. Steve is an Icon, but he'll always be a niche figure, because of his innate weirdness and inaccessible songwriting. As far as pure, stylized metal guitar, for my money, NO ONE beats James Murphy. He is simply inhuman in his precision and dexterity. Muhammed Suiçmez is another outstanding newcomer. Some of the riffs he composes for Necrophagist are simply unprecedented. Final note, regarding Satch apprentices: Skolnick>>>Hammett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Word. And on that note, here are two Top 5's - one Metal, one not - that contain 10 absolutely essential players, in no order. Remember, songwriting counts, always.Top 5 Metal: Iommi - Sabbath Rhoads - Ozzy Dime - Pantera Tipton - Priest Akerfeldt - Opeth Top 5 other: Gilmour - Floyd Kreiger - Doors Schon - Journey Reinhardt - Jazz Howe - Yes No Yngwie Malmsteen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackest Eyes Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 No Yngwie Malmsteen? When I first got into guitar, I listened to Yngwie all the time. He is definitely a good player, but I think his attitude/ego makes him not appeal to people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllAboutSkins08 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Some aspects of guitaring are alot easier if you have long fingers. Don't worry mine are not that long either, but they aren't girly. :laugh: :laugh: i'm not even going to fake, my fingers are very short. i'm learning guitar right now and i'm realizing how hard it is to get my fingers used to chords and just getting them in position correctly cause they're short. longer fingers would help some, but it's not gonna stop me from learning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMetal Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 When I first got into guitar, I listened to Yngwie all the time. He is definitely a good player, but I think his attitude/ego makes him not appeal to people. Yngwie is a God. He is an All-Time HOF'er. He literally changed the way the instrument is played. There is nothing like a maple neck scalloped fretboard. Of course he is a bloated mysoginistic twit, but I could give a crap about his personality. Shred trumps all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Word. And on that note, here are two Top 5's - one Metal, one not - that contain 10 absolutely essential players, in no order. Remember, songwriting counts, always.Top 5 Metal: Iommi - Sabbath Rhoads - Ozzy Dime - Pantera Tipton - Priest Akerfeldt - Opeth Top 5 other: Gilmour - Floyd Kreiger - Doors Schon - Journey Reinhardt - Jazz Howe - Yes No Mustaine? he is a genuine douchebag but that guy can shred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackest Eyes Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 Yngwie is a God. He is an All-Time HOF'er. He literally changed the way the instrument is played. There is nothing like a maple neck scalloped fretboard. Of course he is a bloated mysoginistic twit, but I could give a crap about his personality. Shred trumps all. Shred trumps all if you enjoy boring music that sounds like an a harmonic minor scale pattern being played in sixteenth notes at quarter note equals 150 bpm. For the record, I enjoy Yngwie, but I cannot stand listening to him for more than 5 songs or so because its so repetitive and boring. Against guitarists like Satch & Vai, Yngwie is not all that great. Pretty sure that while a jazz guitarist such as John Scofield is not a shredder, he could outplay Yngwie any day. I am not against shred, but when a guitarist shows a lack of musicality, its boring. This is the same reason I dislike wankish classical music too. What the crap is the point? And for anyone who likes stupidly fast guitar, check out Michael Angelo Batio. Musical masturbation on the guitar at its finest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Shot Posted June 9, 2008 Author Share Posted June 9, 2008 Shred trumps all if you enjoy boring music that sounds like an a harmonic minor scale pattern being played in sixteenth notes at quarter note equals 150 bpm.I am not against shred, but when a guitarist shows a lack of musicality, its boring. This is the same reason I dislike wankish classical music too. What the crap is the point? I'm gonna second that one. To many people, how fast you can play is a sign of how good you are. I disagree with that though. Sometimes I get carried away and focus on just hitting as many notes as possible rather than actually playing notes that stimulate SOME kind of emotion. Don't get me wrong, I love seeing some good ol shredding in action....but it's some players' only strong suit. I look at a guy like Dave Gilmore, who was never much of a shredder, and I'll listen to his 1st solo on Comfortably Numb and I'm just like "mmmmm, damn...I'll put this over shredding any day". The thing I love about the solo I posted (Tender Surrender) is that Vai doesn't lose sight for one minute of what he's playing. He'll shred those strings up but still keep the heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted June 9, 2008 Share Posted June 9, 2008 I'm gonna second that one. To many people, how fast you can play is a sign of how good you are. I disagree with that though. Sometimes I get carried away and focus on just hitting as many notes as possible rather than actually playing notes that stimulate SOME kind of emotion. Don't get me wrong, I love seeing some good ol shredding in action....but it's some players' only strong suit.I look at a guy like Dave Gilmore, who was never much of a shredder, and I'll listen to his 1st solo on Comfortably Numb and I'm just like "mmmmm, damn...I'll put this over shredding any day". The thing I love about the solo I posted (Tender Surrender) is that Vai doesn't lose sight for one minute of what he's playing. He'll shred those strings up but still keep the heart. Personally, I don't dwell on speed, but I certainly respect it. I do like fast paced songs, but the speed isn't what defines it for me. a lot what I like of his aren't even just the speedy solos, its the overall music he produces. for example, I love the spanish sound produced in Flamenco Diablo. sure, he mixes some speed in there, but its not a flat out race to the end. He's not limited to shredfests; he has great music to go with his ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackest Eyes Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 The thing I love about the solo I posted (Tender Surrender) is that Vai doesn't lose sight for one minute of what he's playing. He'll shred those strings up but still keep the heart. Exactly. This is why Vai owns! :notworthy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhLdfjaYZtY while this looks rather ridiculous it is AWESOME. I remember seeing Vai come out on stage with this thing and my jaw dropping to the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I'm gonna second that one. To many people, how fast you can play is a sign of how good you are. I disagree with that though. Sometimes I get carried away and focus on just hitting as many notes as possible rather than actually playing notes that stimulate SOME kind of emotion. Don't get me wrong, I love seeing some good ol shredding in action....but it's some players' only strong suit.I look at a guy like Dave Gilmore, who was never much of a shredder, and I'll listen to his 1st solo on Comfortably Numb and I'm just like "mmmmm, damn...I'll put this over shredding any day". The thing I love about the solo I posted (Tender Surrender) is that Vai doesn't lose sight for one minute of what he's playing. He'll shred those strings up but still keep the heart. if shredding is what it takes to be a great then you HAVE to say kerry king and jeff hannamen. those guys were killers on the guitar. But I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC_RedskinsFan Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Is this for not as popular ax men or what? Cause IMO Clapton is GOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackest Eyes Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Is this for not as popular ax men or what?Cause IMO Clapton is GOD. Clapton is pretty awesome. For some reason the guitar chair person at my school (Shenandoah Conservatory) hates Clapton. No clue why...but then again Dr. Caluda is a funny guy about stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I like Hammett! :mad: Here though is THE greatest guitarist of all time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_nO0F4ugss&feature=related :notworthy:notworthy:notworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackest Eyes Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I like Hammett! :mad:Here though is THE greatest guitarist of all time: :notworthy:notworthy:notworthy Fixed the link for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Mike Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 I'm gonna second that one. To many people, how fast you can play is a sign of how good you are. I disagree with that though. Sometimes I get carried away and focus on just hitting as many notes as possible rather than actually playing notes that stimulate SOME kind of emotion. Don't get me wrong, I love seeing some good ol shredding in action....but it's some players' only strong suit.I look at a guy like Dave Gilmore, who was never much of a shredder, and I'll listen to his 1st solo on Comfortably Numb and I'm just like "mmmmm, damn...I'll put this over shredding any day". The thing I love about the solo I posted (Tender Surrender) is that Vai doesn't lose sight for one minute of what he's playing. He'll shred those strings up but still keep the heart. Well put. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Fixed the link for you um... end result is the same... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackest Eyes Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 um... end result is the same... haha holy crap. thats weird. I'll try to fix that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracelander Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Some aspects of guitaring are alot easier if you have long fingers. Same could be said about pleasing women But seriously, I saw Vai on David Lee Roth's 86 tour for Eat 'em and smile and loved him. But as for favorites, i'd have to say in no order Les Paul Dimebag SRV Zakk Wylde Eddie Van Halen Jimmy Page Willie Dixon Scotty Moore :point2sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Shot Posted June 10, 2008 Author Share Posted June 10, 2008 and then sometimes, you just feel like going back to the classics http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCwCBh0z3Hs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kNEo8OxrT8 I am forever in debt to these guys:cheers: :notworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81artmonk Posted June 10, 2008 Share Posted June 10, 2008 Shred trumps all if you enjoy boring music that sounds like an a harmonic minor scale pattern being played in sixteenth notes at quarter note equals 150 bpm.For the record, I enjoy Yngwie, but I cannot stand listening to him for more than 5 songs or so because its so repetitive and boring. Against guitarists like Satch & Vai, Yngwie is not all that great. Pretty sure that while a jazz guitarist such as John Scofield is not a shredder, he could outplay Yngwie any day. I am not against shred, but when a guitarist shows a lack of musicality, its boring. This is the same reason I dislike wankish classical music too. What the crap is the point? And for anyone who likes stupidly fast guitar, check out Michael Angelo Batio. Musical masturbation on the guitar at its finest. Sorry but I have to disagree with you. Yngwie isn't all about speed, he is about speed and difficulty. Some of the stuff he does is not only fast but on a level of difficulty that most guitarists can't pull of that fast. IMO it's all about your tastes. Sure he sort of is the same ol, but that is kinda why I like him. While others have left what made them famous and left fans who loved them for newer greener fields, Yngwie has made a niche with the music he loves and his fans love!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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