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Draft Picks Under Snyder's Ownership - Where Are They Now?


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While its hard to draw any conclusions from that without something to compare it to, heres one eye opening thing I noticed:

Not counting the most recent 3 years, the previous 5 drafts produced a grand total of 4 players who are still on the Redskins roster. Yet the roster is 53 players strong. 48 of those spots have had to be filled by FAs, and very young undeveloped players. Out of those 4, two are starters. Ouch.

I also think there is one other thing we can take away from this. This is a list of draft picks. Actual picks that we had. There are alot of people clamoring to keep all of our picks. The problem with this list is not that we didnt HAVE the picks, its that the people we picked most of the time werent any good. Its not signing FAs or trading away picks, or not trading away picks thats are problem. Its player evaluation. Clearly this FO has failed in that since 2000. There have been some great picks, and great signings, but thats been the exception, not the rule.

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Wow, that is an eye opening list. Some of the guys I thought were out of the league are still plugging along. Gibran Hamdan?

Some of the other guys I look at and think :doh:. And still others, I look at and say 'atta guy', like Rock. But there are more :doh:'s than 'atta guy's' :silly:

Thanks for putting this together :cheers:

I think if you looked at every teams drafting over the same period you'd get the same thing. Maybe we'd have a couple extra ones because of Spurrier...good god how can someone be so college smart and so pro braindead...

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5. Wilson, Mark, OL, California RAIDERS

6. Molinaro, Jim, OL, Notre Dame COWBOYS

For some reason I find these interesting.

The two guys that Gibbs assumedly let Buges pick with his only day two picks that first year back. They were talked about as though they were the future cornerstones on ES for a little while.

I had no idea either were even still in the league.

Does this mean Buges picked some decent guys?

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While its hard to draw any conclusions from that without something to compare it to, heres one eye opening thing I noticed:

Not counting the most recent 3 years, the previous 5 drafts produced a grand total of 4 players who are still on the Redskins roster. Yet the roster is 53 players strong. 48 of those spots have had to be filled by FAs, and very young undeveloped players. Out of those 4, two are starters. Ouch.

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Great post, we need some comparisons. I am to lazy after last night!

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Not counting the most recent 3 years, the previous 5 drafts produced a grand total of 4 players who are still on the Redskins roster. Yet the roster is 53 players strong. 48 of those spots have had to be filled by FAs, and very young undeveloped players. Out of those 4, two are starters. Ouch.

It's not the front office's fault that Sean Taylor is no longer on the roster and no longer a starter. It would have been the right and classy thing to do to point that out in your post, but perhaps you were more interested in proving a point.

Also, we drafted Dockery in the 3rd round of '03. He left and signed a massive contract elsewhere. That doesn't make him a bad pick.

There are alot of people clamoring to keep all of our picks. The problem with this list is not that we didnt HAVE the picks, its that the people we picked most of the time werent any good.

Two of our last four drafts ('04 and '06) have been phenomenal, particularly considering the limited number of picks we had to work with. The only thing that might have made those drafts better would have been if we had MORE picks. In the "lesser" two drafts of the last four years ('05 and '07), we still brought in Rogers, Campbell and Landry.

In '04, half of the players we picked became Pro Bowlers. Again, would have been nice to have had even more picks.

You're also overlooking the undrafted guys who have been major contributors (Heyer, Lorenzo Alexander, Chris Wilson, etc.). Someone is doing their job when guys like that pan out.

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Anyone feel like putting together a Free Agent list like this for a compare & contrast? :)

I was thinking about taking you up on this offer. Even pulled up a couple ESPN transactions list to compile the free agents. Then, I noticed redskins.com has some good info. Note: the article also has a paragraph recap on the contributions of the players signed and their current status in the NFL. Also, I added some trades, as they weren't covered, and some other minor edits by comparing to the ESPN pages. Interesting review. http://www.redskins.com/news/newsDetail.jsp?id=34658

Free Agency: Redskins Usually Aggressive

By Gary Fitzgerald

Redskins.com

February 28, 2008

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Here's a look at the players the Redskins have acquired in free agency this decade.

2000

DE Bruce Smith

S Mark Carrier

RB Adrian Murrell

QB Jeff George

DE Nolan Harrison

OL J. Leeuwenburg

CB T. Drakeford

CB Deion Sanders

2001

LS Ethan Albright

FB Donnell Bennett

WR Kevin Lockett

TE Walter Rasby

P Bryan Barker

CB Donovan Greer

LB Robert Jones

QB Tony Banks

OG Dave Szott

S Keith Lyle

2002

LB Jeremiah Trotter

LB Jessie Armstead

C Larry Moore

DE Renaldo Wynn

WR Jacquez Green

WR Chris Doering

WR Reidel Anthony

QB Shane Matthews

QB Danny Wuerffel

OL David Loverne [Trade]

2003

G Randy Thomas

WR Laveranues Coles

K John Hall

RB Chad Morton

DT Brandon Noble

DE Jermaine Haley

S Matt Bowen

DE Regan Upshaw

QB Rob Johnson

G Davie Fiore

WR Patrick Johnson

C Lennie Friedman

DT Bernard Holsey

DT Lional Dalton [Trade]

RB Trung Canidate [Trade]

2004

DE Randy Thomas

DT Cornelius Griffin

CB Shawn Springs

LB M. Washington

DT Joe Salave'a

P Tom Tupa

CB Walt Harris

LB Khary Campbell

TE Brian Kozlowski

TE Walter Rasby

C Cory Raymer

LB Micheal Barrow

FB Mike Sellers

RB Clinton Portis [Trade]

WR James Thrash [Trade]

2005

C Casey Rabach

WR David Patten

S Pierson Prioleau

LB Warrick Holdman

CB Artrell Hawkins

CB Tony Dixon

S Omar Stoutmire

P Derrick Frost (in-season)

K Nick Novak (in-season)

WR Santana Moss [Trade]

2006

WR A. Randle El

S Adam Archuleta

DE Andre Carter

TE Christian Fauria

QB Todd Collins

CB Kenny Wright

OL Mike Pucillo

OL Tyson Walter

LB Jeff Posey

S Vernon Fox

OL Todd Wade

TE Todd Yoder

S Troy Vincent (in-season)

K Shaun Suisham (in-season)

CB Mike Rumph [Trade]

RB TJ Duckett [Trade]

WR Brandon Lloyd [Trade]

2007

LB London Fletcher

CB Fred Smoot

CB David Macklin

OL Jason Fabini

OL Ross Tucker

WR Jason McAddley

WR Todd Pinkston

CB Jerametrius Butler

LB Randall Godfrey

WR Reche Caldwell

WR Keenan McCardell (in-season)

WR Anthony Mix (in-season)

OG Pete Kendall [Trade]

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Edit - I had already started converting the redskins.com article into this post before it was posted in the thread. Anyhow, that missed a few names, which I've included. Someone else can see where everyone is now. :)

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Well there it's partially done. Anyone feel like adding on where they are now?

Just how lazy are you?

In the time it's taken you to give your 3 replies in this thread, you could have already done it AND gotten one more post closer to getting rid of that waterboy avatar. :)

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Just how lazy are you?

In the time it's taken you to give your 3 replies in this thread, you could have already done it AND gotten one more post closer to getting rid of that waterboy avatar. :)

Eh I'm tired. I was planning on doing it if no one else did after a while though. And on the Waterboy thing, 3 posts is better than one haha :)

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TK, wouldn't you say the first draft of Gibbs was solid, with two of our four picks becoming Pro Bowlers? That's not a bad clip even if you have all seven picks.

After looking at it again:

2004 - Gibbs

1. Taylor, Sean, S, Miami (Fla.) R.I.P.

3. Cooley, Chris, TE, Utah State

5. Wilson, Mark, OL, California RAIDERS

6. Molinaro, Jim, OL, Notre Dame COWBOYS

I'm more tempted to say it's more of a 'six in one hand, half dozen in the other' type of draft. You have 2 Pro Bowlers, yes. Sean was a no brainer at #5. Cooley was an unknown by many here. Wilson & Molinaro are kinda surprising as they're still in the League. But have they been developed into starters? Kind of a toss up, but that bad of a draft for Joe's first year back.

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If someone else is in the middle of it and posts it while I'm in the middle of it I'm gonna be pissed off lol. But yea I'm starting on it now haha.

If you want a more complete list of names (might also be easier to list when you're done), you can see my post a few above.

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Eh I'm tired. I was planning on doing it if no one else did after a while though. And on the Waterboy thing, 3 posts is better than one haha :)
If someone else is in the middle of it and posts it while I'm in the middle of it I'm gonna be pissed off lol. But yea I'm starting on it now haha.

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Hey 21, do you know the year when Vinny became involved with the whole draft process? It would be pretty cool to see a comparison (before/after) and to see what we can expect in april

Define 'involved'.

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2000

DE Bruce Smith OUT OF LEAGUE

S Mark Carrier OUT OF LEAGUE

RB Adrian Murrell OUT OF LEAGUE

QB Jeff George OUT OF LEAGUE

DE Nolan Harrison OUT OF LEAGUE

OL J. Leeuwenburg OUT OF LEAGUE

CB T. Drakeford OUT OF LEAGUE

CB Deion Sanders OUT OF LEAGUE

2001

LS Ethan Albright REDSKINS

FB Donnell Bennett OUT OF LEAGUE

WR Kevin Lockett OUT OF LEAGUE

TE Walter Rasby OUT OF LEAGUE

P Bryan Barker OUT OF LEAGUE

CB Donovan Greer OUT OF LEAGUE

LB Robert Jones OUT OF LEAGUE

QB Tony Banks OUT OF LEAGUE

OG Dave Szott OUT OF LEAGUE

S Keith Lyle OUT OF LEAGUE

2002

LB Jeremiah Trotter BUCCANNEERS

LB Jessie Armstead OUT OF LEAGUE

C Larry Moore OUT OF LEAGUE

DE Renaldo Wynn SAINTS

WR Jacquez Green OUT OF LEAGUE

WR Chris Doering OUT OF LEAGUE

WR Reidel Anthony OUT OF LEAGUE

QB Shane Matthews OUT OF LEAGUE

QB Danny Wuerffel OUT OF LEAGUE

OL David Loverne [Trade] OUT OF LEAGUE

2003

G Randy Thomas REDSKINS

WR Laveranues Coles JETS

K John Hall OUT OF LEAGUE

RB Chad Morton OUT OF LEAGUE

DT Brandon Noble OUT OF LEAGUE

DE Jermaine Haley OUT OF LEAGUE

S Matt Bowen OUT OF LEAGUE

DE Regan Upshaw OUT OF LEAGUE

QB Rob Johnson OUT OF LEAGUE

G Davie Fiore OUT OF LEAGUE

WR Patrick Johnson OUT OF LEAGUE

C Lennie Friedman BROWNS

DT Bernard Holsey OUT OF LEAGUE

DT Lional Dalton [Trade] OUT OF LEAGUE

RB Trung Canidate [Trade] OUT OF LEAGUE

2004

DE Randy Thomas REDSKINS

DT Cornelius Griffin REDSKINS

CB Shawn Springs REDSKINS

LB M. Washington REDSKINS

DT Joe Salave'a NFL.COM SAYS REDSKINS BUT I KNOW THAT'S WRONG

P Tom Tupa OUT OF LEAGUE

CB Walt Harris 49ERS

LB Khary Campbell REDSKINS

TE Brian Kozlowski REDSKINS

TE Walter Rasby OUT OF LEAGUE

C Cory Raymer OUT OF LEAGUE

LB Micheal Barrow OUT OF LEAGUE

FB Mike Sellers REDSKINS

RB Clinton Portis [Trade] REDSKINS

WR James Thrash [Trade] REDSKINS

2005

C Casey Rabach REDSKINS

WR David Patten SAINTS

S Pierson Prioleau REDSKINS

LB Warrick Holdman BRONCOS

CB Artrell Hawkins PATRIOTS

CB Tony Dixon OUT OF LEAGUE

S Omar Stoutmire REDSKINS

P Derrick Frost (in-season) REDSKINS

K Nick Novak (in-season) BEARS

WR Santana Moss [Trade] REDSKINS

2006

WR A. Randle El REDSKINS

S Adam Archuleta BEARS

DE Andre Carter REDSKINS

TE Christian Fauria PANTHERS

QB Todd Collins REDSKINS

CB Kenny Wright BROWNS

OL Mike Pucillo REDSKINS

OL Tyson Walter PACKERS

LB Jeff Posey OUT OF LEAGUE

S Vernon Fox REDSKINS

OL Todd Wade REDSKINS

TE Todd Yoder REDSKINS

S Troy Vincent (in-season) OUT OF LEAGUE

K Shaun Suisham (in-season) REDSKINS

CB Mike Rumph [Trade] OUT OF LEAGUE

RB TJ Duckett [Trade] LIONS

WR Brandon Lloyd [Trade] OUT OF LEAGUE

2007

LB London Fletcher REDSKINS

CB Fred Smoot REDSKINS

CB David Macklin REDSKINS

OL Jason Fabini REDSKINS

OL Ross Tucker REDSKINS

WR Jason McAddley REDSKINS*

WR Todd Pinkston REDSKINS*. OK NOW I KNOW YOU CAN'T TRUST SOME OF THESE RECENT ONES. DAMMIT. BUT MY BROTHER'S ****ING FOR ME TO GET OFF THE COMPUTER.

CB Jerametrius Butler BILLS

LB Randall Godfrey REDSKINS

WR Reche Caldwell REDSKINS

WR Keenan McCardell (in-season) REDSKINS

WR Anthony Mix (in-season) REDSKINS

OG Pete Kendall [Trade] REDSKINS

* - NFL.COM SAYS REDSKINS, BUT I CHECKED REDSKINS.COM ROSTER AND THEY'RE NOT ON IT.

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Sartz is out of the league right now after rehabbing his hamstring injury.

He'll show up in someones camp and make at least a PS if healthy this year.

I was thinking he received the ol injury settlement deal. NFL.com really needs to update theirselves. They still J. Palmer listed as being a Redskin when Cinci picked him up a month or two ago. :doh:

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2000

DE Bruce Smith OUT OF LEAGUE

S Mark Carrier OUT OF LEAGUE

RB Adrian Murrell OUT OF LEAGUE

QB Jeff George OUT OF LEAGUE

DE Nolan Harrison OUT OF LEAGUE

OL J. Leeuwenburg OUT OF LEAGUE

CB T. Drakeford OUT OF LEAGUE

CB Deion Sanders OUT OF LEAGUE

2001

LS Ethan Albright REDSKINS

FB Donnell Bennett OUT OF LEAGUE

WR Kevin Lockett OUT OF LEAGUE

TE Walter Rasby OUT OF LEAGUE

P Bryan Barker OUT OF LEAGUE

CB Donovan Greer OUT OF LEAGUE

LB Robert Jones OUT OF LEAGUE

QB Tony Banks OUT OF LEAGUE

OG Dave Szott OUT OF LEAGUE

S Keith Lyle OUT OF LEAGUE

2002

LB Jeremiah Trotter BUCCANNEERS

LB Jessie Armstead OUT OF LEAGUE

C Larry Moore OUT OF LEAGUE

DE Renaldo Wynn SAINTS

WR Jacquez Green OUT OF LEAGUE

WR Chris Doering OUT OF LEAGUE

WR Reidel Anthony OUT OF LEAGUE

QB Shane Matthews OUT OF LEAGUE

QB Danny Wuerffel OUT OF LEAGUE

OL David Loverne [Trade] OUT OF LEAGUE

2003

G Randy Thomas REDSKINS

WR Laveranues Coles JETS

K John Hall OUT OF LEAGUE

RB Chad Morton OUT OF LEAGUE

DT Brandon Noble OUT OF LEAGUE

DE Jermaine Haley OUT OF LEAGUE

S Matt Bowen OUT OF LEAGUE

DE Regan Upshaw OUT OF LEAGUE

QB Rob Johnson OUT OF LEAGUE

G Davie Fiore OUT OF LEAGUE

WR Patrick Johnson OUT OF LEAGUE

C Lennie Friedman BROWNS

DT Bernard Holsey OUT OF LEAGUE

DT Lional Dalton [Trade] OUT OF LEAGUE

RB Trung Canidate [Trade] OUT OF LEAGUE

In the Redskins defense, most of those players sucked. :doh:

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I was thinking he received the ol injury settlement deal. NFL.com really needs to update theirselves. They still J. Palmer listed as being a Redskin when Cinci picked him up a month or two ago. :doh:

You're right. Just saw that he was an injury settlement. Sucks for the kid.

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