The Full Monty Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 If there were a drill for beating the tackle, he wouldn't be among the Top Performers. I don't know why so many people on this board are hot to draft him. He had a mediocre year and did not make All-ACC first or second team. Now those are good points against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Sick Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I was for Calais, but he is slipping in the ratings. He seems like a Philip Daniels clone to me. He could move to DT on passing downs. I would love for him to be around in the 2nd round. As of this point, I think there will be better options at #21 overall. I'm starting to like Harvey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never4get#21 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 top performers so far: Groves, Quentin 4.57 Crable, Shawn 4.64 Gholston, Vernon 4.67 Johnson, Curtis 4.69 Ellis, Chris 4.71 Gatewood, Curtis 4.74 Long, Chris 4.75 Smith, Bryan 4.75 Thompson, Jeremy 4.75 http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDSKNfaithfull Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 top performers so far:Groves, Quentin 4.57 Crable, Shawn 4.64 Gholston, Vernon 4.67 Johnson, Curtis 4.69 Ellis, Chris 4.71 Gatewood, Curtis 4.74 Long, Chris 4.75 Smith, Bryan 4.75 Thompson, Jeremy 4.75 http://www.nfl.com/combine/top-performers Gholston overall was the most impresive today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Gholston overall was the most impresive today. I still think he's undersized without the Dwight Freeney quickness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never4get#21 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 top performers on the bench press: Gholston, Vernon 37 Laws, Trevor 35 Rubin, Ahtyba 35 Ellis, Sedrick 34 Hayden, Nick 34 Okam, Frank 32 Harvey, Derrick 31 Jackson, Lawrence 31 Moore, Dre 31 What did Calias do I missed it? Hey Trevor Laws was great in the Senior Bowl and so far today he looks GOOD!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never4get#21 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 top performers on the vertical jump: Gholston, Vernon 35.5 Howard, Marcus 34.5 Long, Chris 34.0 Avril, Cliff 32.5 Holmes, Louis 32.5 Smith, Bryan 32.5 Thompson, Jeremy 32.0 Biermann, Kroy 31.5 Jackson, Lawrence 31.0 Craig, Angelo 30.5 Laws, Trevor 30.5 Trevor ? again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotgunner Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Can the man play Ball, that is the most important ??? We can get caught up in this nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Could be, but considering there's separate rumblings of a lack of work ethic, this is the type of thing that just backs it up. Lemme ask you this: when was the last time a non-offensive lineman from Miami didn't run under 4.8-4.9? If a guy under 300 is athletic enough to make it in the NFL, there's a 95% chance he can work hard enough to get his 40 time under 5.0, especially with the specialized training resources that UM offers its players. In any case, we should have some insight into him since Palermo was his coach for a year, so I'm not worried either way. I'm not going to let one datapoint decide anything. It should be part of the larger picture. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I was hoping Groves' stock was going to fall. He's an extremely fast Pass Rusher. I would have loved to get Sweed in the 1st and Groves in the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I doubt it will be an issue.How often during a game does a 280-pound DE take his pads off and run full speed ahead unimpeded for 40 yards? Where's the combine drill for "beating the tackle in front of you and obliterating the qb"? Nice point:applause: But its not just us fans who get too caught up on 40 yard times though. I was reading a story today which cited a conversation between Jim Mora Snr and his line coach back when he was a Head Coach. They had seen a few injuries on the line and had brought in some free agents to work out. His line coach was recommedning they sign one of them and Mora looked over the workout reports and said to his linecoach "this guy ran a 5.45 40 - how am I supposed to play him" - his line coach looked at him without missing a beat and with a straight face said "just don't send him deep" .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#21Taylor4Ever Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 This guy's looking more and more like a DT now. Sweed just passed him on my list for our 21st pick. 16 reps of 225 and he's 290lbs? That's pretty damn weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartinC Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Are you kidding? the Tackles ran faster than that ...and he doesnt look to agile... . We need to stop looking at this kid and move on ......... Look at others like Harvey or Merling.... Watching also.... Only 1 Tackle this year beat 5.00 for the 40, for what thats worth. I will say though tha if there is one position on the line where speed is important its DE. I have never seen Campbell play a down but he worries me - he is one of those boom or bust picks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B&G Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I would think the time for the 10 second split is more meaningful than the 40 for a DL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLongshot Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 16 reps of 225 and he's 290lbs? That's pretty damn weak. Something they did say when the OL was lifting over the weekend was that the bench press works to the strengths of guys who are short-armed and barrell chested. I agree that it isn't impressive, tho. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never4get#21 Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 This guy's looking more and more like a DT now. Sweed just passed him on my list for our 21st pick. 16 reps of 225 and he's 290lbs? That's pretty damn weak. wow that is bad. I missed it. The funny thing is that "Vinny" will probably still take him at #21. Im hoping for Kenny Phillips and take Trevor Laws in 2nd round. Use Chris Wilson for speed rush!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuels Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I can't believe any of you guys that were/are clamoring for him have actually watched him play. He sucks period the only thing going for him was his size. In the UVA they just mauled him over and over the guy is'nt good. Merlin is a very good run defender but he lacks passrush ability has well. Thier are 3 De's in this draft who could possibly help this team. Chris Long,Gholston and Harvey. Those are the only 3 guys we should even mention has possibilitys at De and 2 of them will be surely gone before #21 but likely all 3. At DT the only 2 guys who could help us Sedrick Ellis and Dorsey both will be gone. In rd2-3 is the time to draft our D-Lineman. In rd1 give me Branden Albert and take care of that o-line longterm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumtar Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Pat Sims should be the pick if we dont get Merling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanted: Super Bowl Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 How about we get Kellen Davis from Mich St .....impressive 40 impressive bench impressive size....plays both sides of the ball....sounds great to me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkekoa Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Who cares about 40 time? What is the difference in 5.03 and 4.78...2.5 tenths of a second. Who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumtar Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 Burst off the line is important and a slow forty time makes that much worse for campbell it looks as though he will slip into the 2nd rd possibly 3rd. Trevor Laws and Pat Sims have the production in college and are 3 tech dts so thats where i think thats where the skins will be going Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Plastic Skins Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 In any case, we should have some insight into him since Palermo was his coach for a year, so I'm not worried either way.I'm not going to let one datapoint decide anything. It should be part of the larger picture. Jason Absolutely agree with you there. Nevertheless, I'm a homer for Derrick Harvey, especially at 271. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLusby Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I believe I read where GW said that Wilson was the fastest DE that he had ever seen and that his time was close to 4.5. Let's pass on CC and develop Wilson and get a stud DT that is a run stuffing and pass rushing machine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADF Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 I'm more interested in if the guy can actually play. Have people actually seen this guy play or are they just fascinated by his size? Combine numbers should only be used to confirm what has been seen on film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCMONEY Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 The Skins need are CB, D-lineman and Possible bigger wide out. If the best player at 21 happens to be a wideout then take him. I have a feeling James Hardy is gonna be a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.