DWinzit Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 My team? No way. .:laugh: I didn't think so......Mine either!Thats just not what wade wants in a ilb.Once you look past the measurables, Carpenter isn't what any DC want in an ILB. He is a great special teamer and a decent backup.:2cents: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallasfan Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 For one, Carp was never a 3-4 OLB pass-rushing specialist to begin with-his strengths are at 4-3 ILB. If, let's say, he becomes the Saints' ILB, that would be a HUGE upgrade to their D.Anyhow-was over at the Giants' MB just now, they seem to think the GMen have the biggest inside track on him now. So this is going to get VERY interesting.:2cents: I disagree I think Carp is best suited to play SSLB in a 4-3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom [Giants fan] Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 The Cowboys are trying to buy a championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC 30 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Man that would suck if the Cowboys got Hall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walking Deadman Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Sounds like Jerry is pulling a classic Dan Snyder......and we know how that worked out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins0756 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 That won't happen. Jones will somehow pull the trigger on a deal for McFadden. And that should cost him something in between Ricky Williams and Herschel Walker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallasfan Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 McFadden won't be a cowboy. Had Cleveland been as bad as we all hoped, then yes McFadden probably would've been the pick, but trust me he won't. Felix Jones probably will be a cowboy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger.Staubach Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Well Hall would be an upgrade for Dallas, however am I the only one that thinks that he's overrated? Sure he runs his mouth, and sure there he's been hyped up for years. But he gets burned waaay too much for someone demanding the type of money he wants. We'll see how it plays out, but i'm not sure if I would want him on my team. NO THANKS. I think that your statements are about as accurate as they can be. I don't want him on my team in any role other than that of a 3rd corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I don't want him going anywhere, ever.He is going to be crucial to the future of the defensive front in Dallas. Keeping him in Dallas is the #1 priority in my book. He is a very talented player with incredible potential and a bright future ahead of himself which he is just realizing now. Dallas can cash in at a decent price now, before he blows up and potentially breaks the bank (see Justin Tuck -- excellent extension by NYG) Unfortunately I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I disagree I think Carp is best suited to play SSLB in a 4-3I'm not seeing that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 McFadden won't be a cowboy. Had Cleveland been as bad as we all hoped, then yes McFadden probably would've been the pick, but trust me he won't. Felix Jones probably will be a cowboyAlthough I wish they'd give up a ton in a deal to get McFadden, I don't see him in Dallas (unless he was to fall some in the draft). The one thing I find peculiar is the thought that the Cowboys plan to extend Barber and use a 1st or 2nd rounder on another RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coolbeans Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Although I wish they'd give up a ton in a deal to get McFadden, I don't see him in Dallas (unless he was to fall some in the draft). The one thing I find peculiar is the thought that the Cowboys plan to extend Barber and use a 1st or 2nd rounder on another RB. Why do you find that peculiar? They have very few team needs. Julius and Tyson Thompson will be gone leaving them with just 1 RB. They like the 2-back system and need a solid RB sharing carries with Barber who can also step in and carry the load if Barber gets hurt which would not be surprising at all given his running style. They will likely draft 2 RBs and maybe a FB, they supposedly like the FB from Arkansas as well. They need a CB and WR also but have 3 picks in the first 2 rounds. They can get a CB, WR, and RB and still have their 3rd - 7th round picks to look for backup DL, OL, and return guys. They are sitting in a very nice position, now lets see if they take advantage or screw it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Why do you find that peculiar? They have very few team needs. Julius and Tyson Thompson will be gone leaving them with just 1 RB. They like the 2-back system and need a solid RB sharing carries with Barber who can also step in and carry the load if Barber gets hurt which would not be surprising at all given his running style. They will likely draft 2 RBs and maybe a FB, they supposedly like the FB from Arkansas as well. They need a CB and WR also but have 3 picks in the first 2 rounds. They can get a CB, WR, and RB and still have their 3rd - 7th round picks to look for backup DL, OL, and return guys. They are sitting in a very nice position, now lets see if they take advantage or screw it up!I agree with your last sentence....Think McFadden real early in the draft:D I had been under the impression Thompson would be back and the FB position was set based on earlier debates. I agree CB, WR, OL, DL & RB are needs. These are the usual suspects listed where ever I read. My feel is there are two spots missing. Laugh as you will due to all the picks recently used but one spot is OLB. I was told all last year you were solid at ILB and OLB because Carpenter could play both. I will no longer accept that. Drafting Spencer proved to me Carpenter was not the starting answer on the outside and signing Zach proves he is not the guy for the inside. I find it even more interesting that backup QB never seems to be listed for the Cowboys. Do you guys really think Romo sits to pee is invincible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallasfan Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I had been under the impression Thompson would be back and the FB position was set based on earlier debates. I agree CB, WR, OL, DL & RB are needs. These are the usual suspects listed where ever I read. My feel is there are two spots missing. Laugh as you will due to all the picks recently used but one spot is OLB. I was told all last year you were solid at ILB and OLB because Carpenter could play both. I will no longer accept that. Drafting Spencer proved to me Carpenter was not the starting answer on the outside and signing Zach proves he is not the guy for the inside. I find it even more interesting that backup QB never seems to be listed for the Cowboys. Do you guys really think Romo sits to pee is invincible? Thompson will be replaced by........Rock Cartwright. As far as OLB, I doubt we draft one. It's possible we draft one late, but right now we have Ware, Ellis, Spencer and Justin Rogers (UDFA cut by NE) manning the position. But I do see us drafting an ILB if Carpenter is traded. As far as back-up QB goes I'm willing to be Matt Cassell, Jim Sorgi and most other back-up QBs of elite QBs weren't drafted much higher than the 7th rd. What we should have done was find a way to keep Matt Moore and he could've been the back-up this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 What we should have done was find a way to keep Matt Moore and he could've been the back-up this year.It wouldn't have been hard. They took an unnecessary risk and it cost them. It never made sense because they were so high on him.I expect them to use a mid round pick at QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallasfan Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 It wouldn't have been hard. They took an unnecessary risk and it cost them. It never made sense because they were so high on him.I expect them to use a mid round pick at QB. I doubt we draft a QB. We'll probably just grab a guy who went undrafted and do the same thing as last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 I doubt we draft a QB. We'll probably just grab a guy who went undrafted and do the same thing as last yearAnd that could turn out to be a fatal error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallasfan Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 And that could turn out to be a fatal error. The odds of drafting a QB that would actually help us if Romo sits to pee goes down this year is very small, unless we were to draft one in the first or second round, and teams with pro-bowl QBs don't do that, unless he's getting up there in age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 The odds of drafting a QB that would actually help us if Romo sits to pee goes down this year is very small, unless we were to draft one in the first or second round, and teams with pro-bowl QBs don't do that, unless he's getting up there in age.You are telling me you are comfortable with the ancient Johnson and rookie undrafted FA running the team if Romo sits to pee goes down early. As coolbeans stated you guys are sitting in a good position regarding the draft. Why on Earth wouldn't you be interested in drafting a QB in the middle rounds? I was surprised you didn't do it last year. Not doing so this year would be a mistake if one of worth was on the board when a mid round pick came up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallasfan Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 You are telling me you are comfortable with the ancient Johnson and rookie undrafted FA running the team if Romo sits to pee goes down early. Am I comfortable with Johnson and an UDFA, no. Would I be more comfortable with Johnson and a QB we drafted in say rd 4 or 5, not really. Not doing so this year would be a mistake if one of worth was on the board when a mid round pick came up. That's the problem. Ryan and Brohm will be gone in the first. Flacco could be as well, but definately won't last till our 2nd rounder, same for Chad Henne and probably Josh Johnson. Andre Woodson could fall, but I doubt he, Erik Ainge or John David Booty last till the end of round 3. The earliest I'd take a QB is rd 4 and at this point we're looking at Colt Brennan or Dennis Dixon as possibly the best QBs available. IMO, if these are our options, don't take one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Perhaps the 3rd round is where the pick should be expended than. If you get a good one and Romo sits to pee stays the starter for the next few years you would be in nice shape at backup. BTW I agree Brennan doesn't have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dallasfan Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 3rd round is too early. We have other positions that need younger guys who will actually see the field this year. I know that anything can happen, but there's no way I think taking a QB in rd 3 would be good. Ideally we go RB, WR, CB with our first 3 picks (In any order, but I'd prefer WR be last). With that 3rd rounder I can see us drafting a D-lineman (either a DE or NT depending on what happens with Spears and Ferguson) or an ILB (depending on what happens with Carpenter). Even if we keep all the guys I mentioned above, I'd rather us take another CB than reach for a QB, which is the likely result if we take one then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_33 Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Someone sounds a little nervous of the prospects of all that occurring. Hell yea....!The last thing we want the cowboys to do is improve their secondary...Your front 4 and LB's are tough...Thank god your secondary stinks! We know if you don't improve your secondary,then we can win...Newman is the only guy worth a crap and roy williams gets burned....we want you to keep him forever! Your secondary is like our D-line....they suck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted February 25, 2008 Share Posted February 25, 2008 (Whispering) Over-rat-ed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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