ttr77 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 I'm not going to tell you that I think you need to stop drinking, but man, if I had stopped drinking at 20 and put the money saved into a good investment fund, I wouldn't be sitting here typing this because I wouldn't be in front of a computer in an office... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruggala Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 actually this is a great place for advice. It's completely UNBIASED. Priest is going to say what he did was wrong and try to steer him towards god. A therapist is gonna cost a lot of money Parents are going to be upset and start a fight about it, while still trying to defend him in their own eyes. Nobody on here knows the guy or the girl personally, so it's an outside take on things. Your def right. The offical message board of the Washington Redskins is THE place for advice about alcohol problems. WACKA WACKA!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 *yawn*A lot of people trying to scare you on this board, lol. Do you think a week from now after you all get drunk again, anyone will remember what happened that night? Just don't mention anything and it'll all go away. If anyone brings it up, just say that you don't remember that and that your friends probably made it up. How do you know they didn't? He's already gone the denial route once. This is the second time it's happened. That makes it a pattern of behaviour, and something that deserves a little more attention that a yawn. At some point, when one becomes an adult, one stops thinking about things in terms of what he can get away with, and starts taking responsibility for his actions. I applaud H21 for recognizing that. And given that he's trying to be a man and not a child, he deserves better than 'lie and avoid and hope noone cares.' Seriously though, if she didn't want to be groped, she shouldn't have been near you, knowing you were drunk. That wasn't really all that funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 That wasn't really all that funny. Unfortunately I feel that his entire post was meant to be funny. Missed by a mile. That is the reason for my edit on my previous post. I had to take out the part where I said, "^^^That's simply not funny". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Unfortunately I feel that his entire post was meant to be funny. Missed by a mile. That is the reason for my edit on my previous post. I had to take out the part where I said, "^^^That's simply not funny". Ah yes. Well, I'll let my post stand, just in case someone else is serious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyber Pimp Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Man, you need to learn how to handle your liqur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveStrongSkins Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 *yawn*A lot of people trying to scare you on this board, lol. Do you think a week from now after you all get drunk again, anyone will remember what happened that night? Just don't mention anything and it'll all go away. If anyone brings it up, just say that you don't remember that and that your friends probably made it up. How do you know they didn't? Seriously though, if she didn't want to be groped, she shouldn't have been near you, knowing you were drunk. What perfect advice on how to get a rape/sexual assault charge. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 As a known "drunken groper", I say relax. Some of you guys are getting a little dramatic. Maybe if you weren't throwing up and acting like a dummy all night, she wouldn't have ran. Last night I was sleeping in my friends guest bed and a girl friend of mine came in to go to sleep. I got "grabby". I didn't even relize it until this morning. I woke up and asked where my pants went. She was like "you *******, you don't remeber?" and I didn't. Wasn't my fault, I was sleeping. Learn to hold your booze like a big boy and don't embarase your friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellis Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Hero21, I used to be an alcoholic, but I've never done anything like you've done. My sobriety happened b/c of a really bad car accident. First, I'd like to recommend you go to AA, especially since you've done this a few times and also because you're 20 yrs old. I don't know you, so I can't judge your character but since you have remorse and feel bad for what you've done, I can see that you're a good person. Back on point, definitely go to AA. Tell your story and listen to other peoples stories. You will get a lot out of it. And at some point, you have to let the girl confront you and tell you how you affected her. You need to apologize too. Anyway, that's my take. Going to AA will speak volumes to the people that are mad at you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 As a known "drunken groper", I say relax. Some of you guys are getting a little dramatic. Maybe if you weren't throwing up and acting like a dummy all night, she wouldn't have ran.Last night I was sleeping in my friends guest bed and a girl friend of mine came in to go to sleep. I got "grabby". I didn't even relize it until this morning. I woke up and asked where my pants went. She was like "you *******, you don't remeber?" and I didn't. Wasn't my fault, I was sleeping. Learn to hold your booze like a big boy and don't embarase your friends. Are you seriously suggesting that if you are too drunk to remember doing something, you aren't responsible for it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins24 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 The yawn and non serious post was because I'm having a hard time believing this is a serious thread..... So let's go over it... For the first time in my short life, I've done something I consider to be terrible and I'm not sure how I should deal with it. We'll go over this part later.... Last night I got drunk, really really drunk to the point where I have holes in my memory and I was puking everywhere. At one point during this night, I ended up passing out on my friend's bed, next to this one girl I was talking with earlier in the night. To be blunt, I groped her. I won't say how exactly I did, but I basically put my hand in a place that wasn't meant to go So you supposedly pass out. Yet you are still able to grope her? How? If it was a alcohol induced "pass out" then you wouldn't have been able to do anything until morning (hence why you should never be around a sharpie when you do pass out). You won't say how you did, but then you say how you did :laugh: Anyway, are you stating this from memory?.... Distraught, she ran out of the room as I laid there passed out. I find out about this later that night ....Or did your friends tell you this happened? She just ran out? Maybe, but like someone said earlier she probably would have slapped the **** out of you first. Did you wake up with red marks on your face? And again you state you're passed out. Could you clarify? And it gets worse. Last year, I commited this same act, while drunk, with the same group of friends. But you weren't sorry last time right? Since this is the first time you felt bad, as stated earlier. I don't go to school with these people so staying away won't be difficult. However, the fact remains that I've done something I consider to be terrible. I still have yet to talk to these girls as the wound is still fresh. When my friend spoke with the one from last night, she was apparently understanding of the fact that I was drunk and not in control. I still have yet to make a full blown confesion to the other, which I plan to do. Then what's the problem? What are you needing advice about? You already stated what you need and plan to do? And as stated already, why in the world would you come to a football message board seeking whatever real world advice you need? There are trained people who can help you. Seriously, what were you expecting us to say? I've already sworn off getting drunk ever again. If I ever drink, it will be a couple. That's it, I'm done. The idea of me losing control this bad scares me, and this side of me that comes out hurts people. See above. so please I need to know, is there anything I could possibly do to make this ok as possible? Get their BFs to beat me up, let them beat me up, something? And please ... if any of you, man or woman, feel the need to blast me on what I've done, please do so .... Need attention? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Are you seriously suggesting that if you are too drunk to remember doing something, you aren't responsible for it? No, not at all Henry. I'm just not responsable for "remebering" what I did. I am still responsable for the things i've done. This poor kid didn't rape anybody. He just got "grabby". Big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 All I know is I wouldn't have gone on an internet message board and confessed to a crime I may have committed. Drunk or not. But to each his own. Good luck with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 I will be honest with you man, the girls are the least of your concern. You have a real problem with drinking and a real problem in thinking that you can "drink less and be ok". The fact is you need to treat alcohol like you are allergic to it. These 2 girls, while victims, won't be the last if you dont seek help and figure out how to change this behavior. I wouldnt go overboard with apologizing to these women but I would remember this forever and ever as a lesson on why you should NOT drink. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 You need to find sluttier girls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
portisizzle Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Advice? Treat women with respect and dignity. Neither of which can be accomplished while unless you are drinking responsibly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Touchdown Redskins Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Can everyone PLEASE stop telling this kid to "quit drinking" like he's an alcoholic. He binge drinks, which is not alcoholism. Geez louise, the kid's 20, he's going to get ****-faced every once in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyConway Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 All I know is I wouldn't have gone on an internet message board and confessed to a crime I may have committed. Drunk or not.But to each his own. Good luck with that. Seriously! You need to find sluttier girls. That is if he plans on getting black-out drunk again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMike619 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Can everyone PLEASE stop telling this kid to "quit drinking" like he's an alcoholic. He binge drinks, which is not alcoholism. Geez louise, the kid's 20, he's going to get ****-faced every once in a while. lets see..he drinks he fights he gropes and he alienates himself. he cant seem to just have a few drinks. sounds like you need to stop projecting what you think is right for him. Just because you get ****-faced every once in a while doesnt mean that everyone can. In the words of AA: 1 is too many, a thousand never enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Can everyone PLEASE stop telling this kid to "quit drinking" like he's an alcoholic. He binge drinks, which is not alcoholism. Geez louise, the kid's 20, he's going to get ****-faced every once in a while. Are you crazy? The kid is sexually assaulting people while drunk for god sake. Do you realize that this is the type of thing that will RUIN YOUR LIFE. Yes he's 20, which is a big part of why him being labled a sex offender would be such a tragedy. Getting drunk is of no importance at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moviedude25 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Listen bro, we've all done some stupid **** in our lives at one time. I personally never expirenced anything like what your saying here but I've done some dumb **** like beating up a friend who was sober and who wouldn't drive to the store for me for smokes when I was drunk and another time I slept with my buddies girlfriend when she was horney and I was drunk. These people giving you advice here act like there **** doesn't stink but it does. No one here is perfect and we've all done things we regret so don't go and kill yourself over this. Its good you feel bad about what you did so you need to deal with that. I highly suggest: 1. Stop drinking. If this was your first time then I would say control yourself. Its your second time so there is a pattern here. If you continue to drink you will do this same thing again. The definition of insanity is doing the same things over and over again and expecting different results. When you drink you molest women, when you are sober you don't. Dude your on the border of seriously ****ing up your life if you continue to drink. If you want to get a mental floss then do something else like smoking pot but do not drink, not even one. Bottom line drinking isn't for you. Stop drinking or expect this type of thing to happen more regularly. 2. For now avoid these people all together like the damn plague. All of these people here who said to go talk to the chic are absolutely nuts. That's a horrible idea right now. If you go to her and apologize your admitting you screwed up and right now that could get you into some serious legal trouble. If your friend asks about it tell him to tell the girl your sorry and if that should come back to you as an ommission of guilt deny ever saying it. Use a third party to get the message across to the girl and then in a year talk to her and hopefully for your sake unless your a complete moron, by then you can tell her how you stopped drinking and learned to use this bad situation as a life changing event and something good comes from it. But for right now avoid getting near any of those people. Find some new friends or just rent a lot of movies and video games and lay low. The sooner you realize that some people can drink and have no problems and some people can't and your in the can't drink catagory and you stop drinking or thinking you can the better off you will be. If you don't learn this then my guess is you end up in jail at some point in your life as a result of drinking. The only person you have to answer to is yourself so if you want to play russian ruelette then go for it but your actions will have serious consequences so be ready to pay the piper if your numbers pulled and you have to answer the bell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins247 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 I'd probably appologize, but that's me. If consequences come from it, so be it. Yes, it may hurt you if they press charges, but having seen the after effects of assaults I'd be doing everything in my power to not have the women think that it was one. That trauma sucks, and if hurting me got them over it...again, that's me.As for drinking: Honestly, you could become the new in guy for all parties. Be the designated driver. As somebody who took soccer seriously, I was the DD for years! Don't sweat the not drinking part at parties. You can drive people home, you can go the infamous "need moe beer" run. Dude, you played soccer? You should turn in your man card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbear Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Played soccer on a team that's just made the finals of the U.S. Open Cup (national amateur tourny) last year...Yes, I played soccer before MS. Can't tell you how much I miss it. Before people start calling out other men's man card, they should have to compete in a sport at a high level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stophovr6 Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 I know it's been said before but you need to stop drinking. There are some people that just turn into a different person when they drink. Most of the time it just makes people more outgoing social and friendly. But others can get violent and disturbed. Not saying you are either. But if you continue to drink, you're only putting yourself in the position to become something you obviously don't want to be. Stop Drinking. For my sake and for the sake every father out there.* *This makes me sound like a father. I'm not for the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Destino Posted February 4, 2008 Share Posted February 4, 2008 Dude, you played soccer? You should turn in your man card. Try it sometime and when you are done sucking wind then talk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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