Xero21 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Gregg Williams is one of the best Defensive coaches in the NFL. He is able to use average players and still have a great defense. We saw this last year when Reed Doughty stepped in and played pretty well. But with Williams gone, would you still want Doughty to be the starter at SS? I'm not so sure I would. Edit: This was really meant to be an opinion thread, would you feel comfortable with Doughty starting without Williams. I realize that we still dont have a HC and that will change things, just curious to see what you all think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMOSS89 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Who the **** knows anything about anything anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Really, we could go through every player on the roster and ask the same question. Is there a reason you want to know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondie Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 EVERY player begins training camp vying for a starting position. I dont see where he would be any different. He will be working for that position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thoth Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Bigger fish to fry right now, like, who are we drafting for the DL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero21 Posted January 26, 2008 Author Share Posted January 26, 2008 Really, we could go through every player on the roster and ask the same question. Is there a reason you want to know? Not exactly. Reed Doughty is an average player who was able to excel under a great coach. Since that coach is now gone, would all those people who originally said they wouldnt mind him starting, still feel that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raperry2 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Blache knows the defensive guys pretty well. So the Redskins probably wont get rid of guys like Doughty who are only going to get better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Greg Blache is the new DC, however I'm sure it is whatever Vinny says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercuryrising Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Does he kiss Snyder's ass? Does he talk x's and o's with Vinnie? Who knows anymore man. I appreciate the question, but I dont think anyone can answer these types of question anymore with the Redskins. One hell of a way to run a professional sports team...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyansRangers Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 I like blache as the d coord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skins110 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Who knows? I wouldn't be surprised to see a large turnover of the roster, especially on the defensive side of the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG4Life Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 I think we're putting the cart before the horse. Let's get us a HC announced first before talking about who will be a starter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfanindallas88 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 I feel so much better with Blanche at DC...its not the continuity some were looking for...but it's better than nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mercuryrising Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Will the new hc like it? Or will he be resentful that Blache is not hig guy. That the players are not his guys? This is crazy..... I like blache as the d coord Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spitfire71 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 I don't believe that anybody should be pegged as a no-question starter. Doughty's young; this past year was only his second in the NFL and I think, for one, that he did one heck of a job for a former specialist that was drafted in the 6th round. It doesn't matter what system you're in or who's coaching you. They can't get out there on that gridiron and make that play for you. You've got to be the one to make the play. All NFL players come into the NFL with some level of talent. Sometimes it takes more coaching with some players than others to maximize that potential. Once that potential has been maximized, it doesn't drop off for a while. I say all that to say that Doughty is an average player that can be a good player. I'd take him over the mediocre Vernon Fox or the aging Pierson Prioleau. If they go out and draft another guy, the best guy should win the starting job. Period. If Doughty earns the starting job next year, then it should be his - and the same should go for any other player that was on the starting lineup last year. That makes whoever earns the starting job play better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WilberMWarrior58 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Let's just wait till we get a new coach and feel them out before we make any judgements about who will start and who won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaltenhe Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Bigger fish to fry right now, like, who are we drafting for the DL? even bigger than that is our we gonna be able to bring in a HC worth a hoover dam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark84 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Doughty has certainly earned the opportunity but with a new regime coming in here, he, just like everyone else will have to fight for it. I don't see that being a problem with him because he is such a hard worker and a smart player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bossman_SKins Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 its not as bad as people are making it out to be. blache had a pretty aggressive scheme for chicago when he was there. hopefully he can groom olivadotti as our future d-coord. say goodbye to 10 yard cushions given by our corners, preventive defenses after the half, the inability to adjust, and no more bend but dont break defense! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodiesel#44 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Gregg Williams is one of the best Defensive coaches in the NFL. He is able to use average players and still have a great defense. Considering GW was given autonomy to build that D from scratch with draft picks and free agents, isn't that a contradictory statement?I like Doughty. He should be given a shot in camp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildbill1952 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 I'll treat this question with respect and answer accordingly, no matter what my trepidations are for the Redksins future. Doughty is not Sean Taylor or Laron Landry. But last year he did a good job steppping into some awfully big shoes. He played well. The best coach in the world is useless once the ball is snapped. At that point, it's up to the players to execute. We all loved ST and he got burned at times as I'm sure every Safety who ever played the game has done. It will happen to Doughty, too. But again Doughty has skills and he is young. We can't repalce every player on the team with a first rounder every year. Doughty leaves us plenty of cap space and is only going to get better over the next few years as he matures and the game slows down even more for him. We clamor for depth all the time. We had it and we used it. Give the guy his third season and let's see if he can make the jump form 'good backup' to 'stellar performer'. I think he can. GW was a great coach but he was not the only reason for Doughty's success as a player this year. I think with Blache, you will only see Doughty getting even better next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moviedude25 Posted January 26, 2008 Share Posted January 26, 2008 Not exactly. Reed Doughty is an average player who was able to excel under a great coach. Since that coach is now gone, would all those people who originally said they wouldnt mind him starting, still feel that way? Oh please. Where was that great coach in 2004 or in 2006? I know absence makes the heart grow fonder but Williams isn't a great coach and last year this forum wanted to fire him because he was a bum. Doughty is a good player, even Sean Taylor said so. Give the guy some credit. Williams and his schemes needed to go away and I say good riddence. The attitude that players were only good because of Greg Williams was what led us to lose out on Antonio Peirce and Ryan Clark and look how they did after they left here? Williams is mostly all hype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinzfan112 Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 I wouldn't mind us going for a young safety in the draft... Reed doesn't seem like he's the guy to be back there for years to come. I appreciated his efforts this year, however Williams did mask a lot of his flaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevenaa Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 EVERY player begins training camp vying for a starting position.I dont see where he would be any different. He will be working for that position. I agree. And this is the biggest reason I didn't want the so called "continuity". These players just seem complacent too me. They won't be now. They'll have to prove themselves. Why do you think Portis wanted no changes. He'll participate in camp and preseason this year. Now we may actually see some of them play to their potential. As much as I like Gibbs, he just didn't seem to get the best out of the players like he did the first time around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightbird Posted January 27, 2008 Share Posted January 27, 2008 Reed isn't entitled to anything. And he doesn't need me to tell him that. Reed is accustomed to fighting his butt off every day in training camp for his job, and working every day in practice to keep it. Blache may pencil him in as the starter at SS, but everything is open to competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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