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I surmise that Danny and Vinny know who the next coach is going to be already,its....Spagnuola

Why hire an OC before he HC is set? You don't, The Redskins haven't said anything about the Zorn hire, Someone from Seattle leaked it. If Zorn is the guy, the HC is already chosen. Zorn probably already knows who he is, why else would he agree to the situation? It's not like he is being put into the Jason Garret situation where he will most likely be the next HC but he just isn't ready quite yet.

Why not announce who the HC is? Legally you can't communicate with coaches who are still active, not until after the SB. My guess is that Spagnuola has been contacted and a deal has been reached in secret but they can't say because of the rules...

Why is GW still in the picture? He is still under contract so there is no "need" to find a DC right now. If he were still a possible HC candidate then that perpetuates the situation. Besides, letting him go would really hint at the situation being that a coach has already been chosen, one that they are not supposed to be talking to yet, Why else would you fire GW when you still need a HC and he is under contract. Firing GW would be a dead giveaway.

The alternative would be that GW is getting the job...Why not announce that already? Becasue it isn't happening.

Why not tell anyone, the rest of the staff for example? The more people who know, the more people can ruin it by talking. This would be especially true if everyone that you are keeping in the dark stand a good chance of losing their position when the transition does happen. The staff members aren't stupid, if the guy/people who brought you there as "their guy" is gone then you have valid reasons to be concerned. You never know how those staff members are going to react, the only option(if this scenario is true) is to keep everyone in the dark, and all the news reports I have read say the Skins FO is doing exactly that.

Would the Skins front office do something as sneaky as this? I don't know, but London Fletcher sure seemed to show up with a quickness....like less than one day after it was legal to make to make the move. I remember Joe Gibbs making a point during the LF press conference of being defensive about the issue. Honestly, have the Skins FO ever demonstrated that they go slowly? to me they always seem to be charging ahead past where people would expect so the 4 GW interviews and no official word about GW is out of character.

If all of this was true...Why would it be Spagnuola vs, Josh McDaniels? Becasue the Zorn move means that you don't set up this deal with a new OC and then a new O minded HC. It makes sense to get the new OC and D minded head coach and Spagnuola is the only D minded HC candidate that they cannot legally announce right now. They would have already announced if it was anyone else.

Only other possible option....Zorn as OC, Josh McDaniels as HC, and GW stays on as DC, but that seems way too far fetched...

My cat told me this was the deal, and I believe him.

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I have a different take:

There are so many stories out there regarding this mystery called the "search for the new Redskins' savior". I was livid a couple days ago about the possible Fassel hire. Now that it seems that was a smoke screen, I have come to this conclusion:

First, I believe that Joe Gibbs was asked to resign. It’s true that Joe pretty much did all he could do for the Redskins and there was family concerns. It’s also a truism that Joe truly bleeds burgundy and gold and would do what’s best for the team. In that, I think when he was ask to leave, he considered what was best for the team. He did what was best for the team in the hiring of Al Saunders right? Hmm.

So instead of reporting that Joe was fired and leaving the Redskins name with no credibility, he took the high road and enabled Dan to move on. When you think about it, it is a better situation PR wise. It actually gives the Redskins a platform to stand on through this media circus. I mean how do you replace Joe Gibbs, right? Not only that, but it was inevitable. Next year would have been a disaster for a new coach considering this year we have so many guys with expired contracts/free agents. It would be better long term to let the new coach pick his players this year than to have to take outgoing coaches choice. The fact is that Joe is still a part of the team. That in itself is a mystery. I think there intension is to hire Greg Williams. The search is really for a defensive coach and maybe some other staffers. Many have said “how could one hire an offensive coach without the head coach.” I know I know….you’re saying this is Dan and Vinny we’re talking about. Well GW was interviewed 4 times. What in the world could you talk about in four interviews to a guy you’ve been around for 4 years? The answer to that is the interviews were actually meetings about who GW wants on his staff. Reports have said that Zorn was on GW’s list for his OC. Jim Zorn is the new OC. Hmm. Now, noone has reported that GW fired Saunders right? We know that technically he can’t. That’s obvious. So Dan or Vinny fired him right? Ok it doesn’t really matter in the grand scheme of things. But….Question: Who in there right mind would want to come in from the outside and HC a team where he has no say in the hiring of his coaching staff? I’m just reading the tea leaves a different way. I just have this vision of GW sitting in a chair with the cameras facing the back to conceal his identity. The smoke rises from the imported cigar. He’s speaking to Vinny in his best Vito Corleone impression….

Godfather Theme song

GW: Hey Vinny. I want Zorn in dis organization. Let’s make him an offer he can’t refuse.

Vinny: Ah hi hi hi hi hi. Um, no problem GW.

Ok. That was a bit dramatic but you get the just of it. I have to think that there is a method to the madness. I am hoping that Snyder has become gun shy with making quick major decisions with this team. I mean we fans are hoping that we can find a coach that will be a mainstay and become the new face of the Redskins right? Why wouldn't Snyder want that? If GW is going to be successful, he’s going to need each piece in place. Not someone looking to pad there resume. How do you find that out by making a quick hire. You’ve got to test the market no matter how muddy it gets with the media. I believe Coach GW and company are in fact waiting for the end of the Super Bowl. When that happens, you will see movement. If that movement doesn’t include the hiring of Greg William as Head Coach, the Redskins indeed have no credibility and no reasonable brain activity.

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Exactly when would they of interviewed Spagnola? Did they sneak up to NY and interview him at a late night diner?

It started in Green Bay, during/before the NFC Championship game...If the Giants would have lost then the deal could have been announced already so they had to have it worked out already or risk losing him to someone else, the Giants included.

Danny's plane was tracked as being in GB at that time.

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It started in Green Bay, during/before the NFC Championship game...If the Giants would have lost then the deal could have been announced already so they had to have it worked out already or risk losing him to someone else, the Giants included.

Danny's plane was tracked as being in GB at that time.

Fassel was in GB doing play-by-play and needed a ride.

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Danny's plane was in GB because he picked up Fassel for an interview. It was already noted that Fassel was the mystery candidate interviewed in Arizona on the 11th of the month. Since Fassel was in GB doing the game on the radio, they went to pick him up.

Since negotiations apparently went deep with Fassel, I think that if they got any ideas of interviewing Spagnuolo then they'd have done it on the week before the divisional playoff round. Since they haven't interviewed him and won't be able to for another week, I doubt it's him because they already hired an OC.

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It started in Green Bay, during/before the NFC Championship game...If the Giants would have lost then the deal could have been announced already so they had to have it worked out already or risk losing him to someone else, the Giants included.

Danny's plane was tracked as being in GB at that time.

Yeah, his plane was in GB to pick up Fassel who was there calling the game on the radio. That's been confirmed.

Again, when would Snyder have interviewed Spagnola? The Giants didn't have a bye and have been going none stop game planning. Spagnola probably hasn't had a day off since Christmas.

Edit: When would Snyder have had this ILLEGAL interview with Spagnola?

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Yeah, his plane was in GB to pick up Fassel who was there calling the game on the radio. That's been confirmed.

very few things have been confirmed and none of them are actual reasons for anything, just a few whats...but no whys.

Again, when would Snyder have interviewed Spagnola? The Giants didn't have a bye and have been going none stop game planning. Spagnola probably hasn't had a day off since Christmas.

Earlier than it should have been....that's my point.

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If all of this was true...Why would it be Spagnuola vs, Josh McDaniels? Becasue the Zorn move means that you don't set up this deal with a new OC and then a new O minded HC. It makes sense to get the new OC and D minded head coach and Spagnuola is the only D minded HC candidate that they cannot legally announce right now. They would have already announced if it was anyone else.

I respectfully disagree. If GW was replaced today instead of Saunders, then by your logic it would make sense to go get a offensive minded head coach to counter the hiring of a defensive minded coach. You can't make that assumption just from the Zorn hiring. Of course he is offensive minded, it's his job. The Zorn hiring has no impact on whether the new coach is offensive minded or defensive minded.

Now since it's obvious that GW won't get the job :( , Im interested in what McDaniels has to offer. The coach responsible for the best offense in NFL history should get an interview at least, if just to pick his brain. But he would have to crazy to leave NE to come coach under Snyder

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is Well GW was interviewed 4 times. What in the world could you talk about in four interviews to a guy you’ve been around for 4 years? The answer to that is the interviews were actually meetings about who GW wants on his staff.

Being interviewed 4 times is the curious thing. If Snyder didn't like Williams, why would it take 4 interviews to figure that out? Also, if he didn't want Williams, knowing Snyder, why wouldn't he just tell him that he's not going to get the job? That's a terrible PR move to string a guy along,who's worked 4 years for you, that you have indicated all along would be your next head coach. I understand it's a business, but why interview a guy 4 times if you don't feel comfortable with him or like him?

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I respectfully disagree. If GW was replaced today instead of Saunders, then by your logic it would make sense to go get a offensive minded head coach to counter the hiring of a defensive minded coach. You can't make that assumption just from the Zorn hiring. Of course he is offensive minded, it's his job. The Zorn hiring has no impact on whether the new coach is offensive minded or defensive minded.

I cannot disagree with that logic.....But the Zorn hiring went public....Saunders was replaced, not GW.

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