jnhay Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Floyd's adjustments had more to do with it than Mosley tiring It was probably a little bit of both. But if you want to talk about adjustments, aren't Roach and Pacquiao masterful at coming up and executing their game plans? I don't know much about fighting, but I could easily imagine either one winning. I don't think there's a clear favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 It was probably a little bit of both. But if you want to talk about adjustments, aren't Roach and Pacquiao masterful at coming up and executing their game plans? I don't know much about fighting, but I could easily imagine either one winning. I don't think there's a clear favorite. i agree completely. I still favor Mayweather in the fight, but a clear cut case can be made for either fighter to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuels Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 i agree completely. I still favor Mayweather in the fight, but a clear cut case can be made for either fighter to win. I don't see Pac winning no decision and i don't think he can hit Floyd enough cleanly to finish him.. Floyd very rarely gets hit clean he works angles and uses that shoulder roll to perfection.. Floyd will counter and move all night i hate him with a passion but you gotta respect his skills.. He is a very smart defensive fighter the guy is a student of the game since his childhood.. And honestly he is more elusive and has more hand speed then Manny.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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StillUnknown Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 (edited) i say hot damn Martinez just killed Williams with 1 punch HOLY ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! easily knockout of the year Edited November 21, 2010 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 (edited) Holy ****. One of the most viscous KO's I've seen. Someone post that GIF when it drops. The slow motion replays actually take away from just how sick the KO was. It was like a recreation of the Big Bang on Williams chin. Edited November 21, 2010 by G.A.C.O.L.B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 (edited) Holy ****. One of the most viscous KO's I've seen.Someone post that GIF when it drops. The slow motion replays actually take away from just how sick the KO was. It was like a recreation of the Big Bang on Williams chin. the fact that Williams has one of the better chins in boxing only makes it that more devastating. i thought Williams would lose the fight, but never like that Edited November 21, 2010 by StillUnknown Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 (edited) the fact that Williams has one of the better chins in boxing only makes it that more devastating.i thought Williams would lose the fight, but never like that They spent half of the pre-fight talking about William's chin and how we should buckle down and get ready for a long fight. Then bam, just like that. Awesome, awesome KO. The one replay where Williams' back is to the camera is brutal. You see him land flush on his face and then he's just laying there motionless/lifeless with his eyes wide open. Edited November 21, 2010 by G.A.C.O.L.B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted November 21, 2010 Author Share Posted November 21, 2010 Damn, just one of those shots Williams-Martinez III? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Truly awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick86L Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fal7L7B89Os&hd=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 [video=youtube;Fal7L7B89Os] Why is that ref counting? If I were Dana White, I'd just point to this video whenever someone tries to argue that MMA is much more violent than boxing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick86L Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Why is that ref counting? If I were Dana White, I'd just point to this video whenever someone tries to argue that MMA is much more violent than boxing. I don't think the ref saw how brutal it was but he should have known just from the sound of it I mean it sounded like a damn gun went off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick86L Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 gifs :yikes: wow I've been trying to find the gifs thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted November 21, 2010 Share Posted November 21, 2010 Thanks for the gifs SU. Awesome. Damn, just one of those shots Williams-Martinez III? Hopefully Williams recovers from this. A lot of fighters who get dropped with a punch like that are never the same again (Roy Jones and Jermain Taylor being two). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ibarramedia Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Here is the Martinez-Williams actual fight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N8wn2wxWz0&feature=player_embedded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ACW Posted November 23, 2010 Author Share Posted November 23, 2010 Who did Taylor and Roy get dropped by? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Who did Taylor and Roy get dropped by? Taylor got dropped by Kelly Pavlik (and subsequently, Carl Froch & Arthur Abraham). Roy got dropped by Tarver & Glen Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chachie Posted November 23, 2010 Share Posted November 23, 2010 Thanks for the gifs SU. Awesome.Hopefully Williams recovers from this. A lot of fighters who get dropped with a punch like that are never the same again (Roy Jones and Jermain Taylor being two). I always thought Williams' lanky style reminded me of Thomas Hearns. Now I see his chin resembles the Hitman's as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted November 24, 2010 Share Posted November 24, 2010 I always thought Williams' lanky style reminded me of Thomas Hearns. Now I see his chin resembles the Hitman's as well. the man has (or had) a reputation for having a great chin. He took some bombs from Margarito (probably plastered filled bombs) and kept moving forward. Williams hasn't evolved as a boxer. he has no answer when his high work-rate is countered by his opponent he is very defensively irresponsible, come to think about it, the fact he's gone as high as he has is more representative of his tenaciousness and stamina as opposed to actual skill level. whether he recovers will be completely dependent on how open he is to switching his style, he can't continue to leave his chin out there to get hammered, especially when fighting slick southpaws because he can't see the punch coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick86L Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 (edited) Edited November 27, 2010 by Patrick86L Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted November 27, 2010 Share Posted November 27, 2010 I think Froch will be a pest to Abraham early, but late in the fight Abraham will catch him with something potent and finish him off. Andre Ward should have no problems with Sakio Bika, he just has to watch out if Sakio decides to start fighting dirty. Juan Manuel Marquez vs. Michael Katsidis tonight on HBO will probably be the best fight tonight. its virtually guaranteed to be all action for however long it lasts. i'm taking Marquez just because he simply more skillful. Katisdis is a warrior though, and it wouldn't surprise me if he had some bright moments in the fight. Marquez should be able to get him out in less than 12 rounds though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick86L Posted November 28, 2010 Share Posted November 28, 2010 Marquez vs Katsidis was an incredible fight you were right SU. What do you think of the ref stoppage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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