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Ruiz was as high as +1100 on some betting books

 

they gonna question Joshua's heart for the rest of his career after this one. the way he smiling in the ring with Ruiz is not going to sit right with a lot of people in the game

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So many slept on Ruiz. He showed true grit, heart, skill, boxing IQ and power. Thought AJ would win by Split Decision, but not surprised at the KO. AJ was looking for a way out. 

 

Something did seem off this fight. AJ's long ring walk. The long intro from 3 national anthems. Usually, fighters are in their dressing rooms when anthems are sung/played. If they were warmed up, they probably cooled off with that wait. 

 

Watched on phone, but to me AJ looked shook going to the ring. Thought the crowd reaction wasn't great for him initially. 

 

I know Ruiz can box, but why didn't AJ use his natural height/ reach advantage? He should have jabbed Ruiz to death to set up his big right hand or uppercut. 

 

Oh well! Should have took the $50M.😂🤣😂

 

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im 30 going on 31. HW hasn't been this interesting probably since I was 3 or 4.

 

Not ready to spell doom for Joshua yet, but he's gotta work now to gain respect here in the states. Picking your battles can work if you're Floyd. He aint Floyd.

 

Too bad Wlad missed these guys

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16 minutes ago, Mr. Sinister said:

im 30 going on 31. HW hasn't been this interesting probably since I was 3 or 4.

 

Not ready to spell doom for Joshua yet, but he's gotta work now to gain respect here in the states. Picking your battles can work if you're Floyd. He aint Floyd.

 

Too bad Wlad missed these guys

 

Joshua's 2 biggest issues are that he really doesn't use his size to his advantage, and he's got a chin problem. Last night wasn't the first or 2nd fight in which he's been rocked or put down. He can look to Wlad for inspiration though, he had somewhat similar chin issues and learned to keep himself out of danger. Might be time for a change in trainer that can get Joshua to use his gifts better. Gotta fix that conditioning though. Looking like your body is sculpted is good for marketing, but if you're getting tired after 3 or 4 rounds, you got major problems.

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5 hours ago, The Evil Genius said:

Moves like Jagger.

 

 

 

He still doesnt need to look like that.  But hey, he's the champ now.  

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I respect that Joshua is making no excuses for the loss, it would have been easy to do in his situation

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When was the last fight that AJ looked good in? He struggled in all of his fights since VLAD (Takam, Parker, Povetkin). He needs to adjust something. I still see Ruiz winning the rematch. Unless Ruiz gets hit with a 1-hitter, he is just a better fundamentally sound boxer. He wins a close decision. 

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he got to use his size more to his advantage. Ruiz should have to go through a barrage of jabs before he ever get close enough to hit AJ. That jab will have to be his best defense because his chin is shaky. Wlad managed to turn his career around essentially on the strength of a jab. He went from being a chinny dude to being incredibly hard to hit clean because that jab was always there

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None of the HW's are so much better than the other contenders so it makes for a lot of interesting fights and rematches. 

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I agree. But AJ rarely uses his size. Maybe, it's the trainers.  He could just be so comfortable in his ways that he hasn't changed anything up in his routine. Two perfect examples of guys changing are Vlad and Lennox Lewis. He definitely should take a page out of their books. If he expects to win, he better do something different. 

 

I think Fury is the better overall boxer, but his power is lacking compared to the others. 

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Note the date of the Facebook article. That's my comment below the post...

 

 

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Timing is everything in sports man

 

Ruiz fought Joshua on a relatively short turnaround. His previous opponent was a 6'7 dude with a 82" reach. Granted he was nowhere near the skill level of Joshua, but just seeing that look had to take a lot of the surprise away for Ruiz. Fighting that close back to back also probably didn't allow him to get too big between fights. He essentially moved from one training camp right into another one.

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4 hours ago, StillUnknown said:

he got to use his size more to his advantage. Ruiz should have to go through a barrage of jabs before he ever get close enough to hit AJ. That jab will have to be his best defense because his chin is shaky. Wlad managed to turn his career around essentially on the strength of a jab. He went from being a chinny dude to being incredibly hard to hit clean because that jab was always there

That requires a new trainer. If Emmanuel Steward was still alive... man saved Lennox and Wladimir.

2 hours ago, StillUnknown said:

Timing is everything in sports man

 

Ruiz fought Joshua on a relatively short turnaround. His previous opponent was a 6'7 dude with a 82" reach. Granted he was nowhere near the skill level of Joshua, but just seeing that look had to take a lot of the surprise away for Ruiz. Fighting that close back to back also probably didn't allow him to get too big between fights. He essentially moved from one training camp right into another one.

Honestly, I think Ruiz is a just a good boxer who got overlooked. He looks like a tubby but he is skilled.

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GGG got a KO in a return fight last night. First fight with Jonathan Banks as his trainer. Still has clean technique and the pop in his shots, but the speed and defensive reactions are noticeably down as he's aging. He'll cash out after a 3rd fight with Canelo, but as more times passes, I don't think he can beat Canelo.

 

 

on a different note:

 

 

boxers gotta know when to say when, or at least have people in their corner to let them know the truth. then again, wouldn't shock me at all if Zab blew through his money and is fighting for purely financial reasons

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I had never heard of Rolls until GGG selected him. Undefeated unknown with no power. Great matchmaking to start off his DAZN career. Guess, we can't be too mad at him for the soft touch.

 

Rolls had success in spots, but he covered up too much and let GGG tee off. That was his downfall, in addition to GGG's power.

 

Last night was basically a showcase of GGG's promotions. 

 

GGG gets worked if he fights Canelo or any top tier Middleweights (Andrade and Charlo are too slick and got power). Canelo KO's him in trilogy. 

 

As for Zab, he should have quit a long time ago. He hasn't been competitive in years. Saw the news on Twitter this morning.  Hope he makes a full recovery.

 

So many stay past their prime just to make ends meat and end up living a not so comfortable lifestyle. Too many examples of guys who can barely talk and their motor skills are diminished from being punched in the head repeatedly for our enjoyment.

 

Saw Leon Spinks last year at casino in Vegas. It was a sad sight. Wheelchair bound, slurred speech and trying to make $$$ by selling autographs and photos. 

 

Hope a lot of the current guys save their money and have a backup plan for their post-fight career. Everyone can't be Mayweather or De La Hoya.

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Ref didn't do his job. Cota was holding himself up by the ropes after the first knockdown, and the ref never made him walk to him. those final 2 killshots should have never happened

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On 6/2/2019 at 4:14 PM, Malapropismic Depository said:

Not far from the level of the Douglas over Tyson upset, huh

It's not even in the same universe.

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