RonBurgundy&Gold Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 I'm not buying it. He's sorry alright - sorry he got caught. First, he attempts to blame the dogfighting on his upbringing in Newport News. BS. How many people grww up in a rough environment, but didn't go on as adults to break federal laws? Then he attempts to blame the pot smoking on depression and his father. BS. How many depressed people turn to a bong hit to solve their problems?He (and his lawyers) were stupid to send this type of letter to the judge. How was it stupid, how could it hurt his situation? I don't think he blamed the dogfighting on his upbringing, he simply stated that where hes from it wasn't looked up on as a big deal. I would imagine that to be true. How many times have you heard about people getting busted for dogfighting? As for how many people look to weed for depression, try millions. He could have been a pothead before all this started, but still thats an uninformed thing for you to say. I've never been a Vick fan and feel he should do time just like anyone else, but I don't see how you can pick apart anything he wrote in that letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrumanB Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 How was it stupid, how could it hurt his situation?I don't think he blamed the dogfighting on his upbringing, he simply stated that where hes from it wasn't looked up on as a big deal. I would imagine that to be true. How many times have you heard about people getting busted for dogfighting? As for how many people look to weed for depression, try millions. He could have been a pothead before all this started, but still thats an uninformed thing for you to say. I've never been a Vick fan and feel he should do time just like anyone else, but I don't see how you can pick apart anything he wrote in that letter. It just reeked of more excuses. When you've already lied to the FBI and violated the terms of your plea agreement by smoking pot, sometimes it's best to keep your mouth shut instead of cranking out a 5 page rambling letter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Anyone read George Foreman's letter and start laughing uncontrollably? "Former two-time Heavyweight Champion of the world, and known all over the world as the king of grills because of the George Foreman Lean Mean Fat Reducing Grilling Machine" LOL P.S I love the way he lists his life accomplishments right after his signature. I was cracking up with the George Foreman part Micheal Vick is one of my favorite athletes of all time, for obvious reasons, and I hope he gets his life together when he gets out. I am in wait and see mode though, he has 23 months to think about it and hopefully his actions reflect his words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard saunders Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Did anyone read page 12? Gave 100K to Katrina relief to a church in Manassas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enter Apotheosis Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 This won't stop the "holier than thou" hypocrites from chucking stones at him, unfortunately. I can't believe he got two years for this BS. In order to be a hypocrite wouldn't someone have to be condemning what he did while fighting dogs themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hokie4redskins Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 This won't stop the "holier than thou" hypocrites from chucking stones at him, unfortunately. I can't believe he got two years for this BS. Exhibit A I'm not buying it. He's sorry alright - sorry he got caught. First, he attempts to blame the dogfighting on his upbringing in Newport News. BS. How many people grww up in a rough environment, but didn't go on as adults to break federal laws? Then he attempts to blame the pot smoking on depression and his father. BS. How many depressed people turn to a bong hit to solve their problems?He (and his lawyers) were stupid to send this type of letter to the judge. Exhibit B He grows up poor as hell, surrounded by trouble, with nothing but the ability to play the game of football. Then he gets there, the NFL and what does he surrund himself with? The same trouble and ends up doing the same stupid ****. What an *******. It's not like he was teaing it up and winning superbowls, he was barely a starter(the money kept him in the starting rle(not to mention the lack of somebody you know is better)) and he is out starting interstate gambiling rings, based around dog fighting. What the hell did he ever do for you(besides play at the school you went to) that you can't see just how bad this clown ****ed up? Regardless, Vick's charitable deeds FAR outweighed the deaths of a couple mangy-ass mutts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Regardless, Vick's charitable deeds FAR outweighed the deaths of a couple mangy-ass mutts. And exactly what are all of those charitable deeds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHUBAKAH Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 This won't stop the "holier than thou" hypocrites from chucking stones at him, unfortunately. I can't believe he got two years for this BS. I can't believe he only got two years. Christ, as big a case as it was in the public eye, why not just fry his ass and show the rest of the world just how wrong dog fighting is. He could rot in there as far as I'm concerned. F him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0ublestr0ker0ll Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Regardless, Vick's charitable deeds FAR outweighed the deaths of a couple mangy-ass mutts. They didn't have to be mangy-ass mutts. Talk about holier-than-thou. Humans are animals, just because we luckily shot to the top of the food chain doesn't make it right to brush off other beings of the planet. You wouldn't want dogs with more intellect than us to throw you in to a cage with two 2 inch daggers against another guy of your size. There weren't any "winners" of these dog fights besides the scum that laughed and won money while it happened. Vick needs to be put away, to merely show children that even the huge stars can't get away with stupid crap like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Regardless, Vick's charitable deeds FAR outweighed the deaths of a couple mangy-ass mutts. Got a list of those? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enter Apotheosis Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 And exactly what are all of those charitable deeds? He single-handedly supported the entire family of his weed man. :yes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 He single-handedly supported the entire family of his weed man. :yes:Not true, his cousin was helping.:doh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CHUBAKAH Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Not true, his cousin was helping.:doh: :laugh: Let's not forget his POS brother as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickalino Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 more than not you make me laugh. i sure hope your holier than thou ass never does anything wrong because karma might just throw the book at you.... So, by your logic, Sean Taylor's killers should be set free, because "we all make mistakes" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Anyone else not really feel insulted by someone saying you're acting 'holier than thou' compared to a dog fighter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enter Apotheosis Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Anyone else not really feel insulted by someone saying you're acting 'holier than thou' compared to a dog fighter? Its a given. Neither ironmic nor hokie understands the meaning of the phrase... and I honestly wouldn't have expected them to :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 I still can't believe all the idiots who are saying 23 months was too harsh :doh: I was a huge Vick fan when he played at Tech, and wanted him to succeed against everyone but the Skins in the NFL, and after hearing the things he did, I was hoping for 3-5 years minimum. Anyone who says 23 months is excessive for the sick **** he did, is just as sick as him IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ironmic Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 So, by your logic, Sean Taylor's killers should be set free, because "we all make mistakes" Wow, I can not believe you made that statement..I wont even justify that question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truckedbysellers Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Level of agreement 100%. Dogfighting is cruel, heck it's evil. Vick's punishment however is excessive and unreasonable. Dogfighting is cruel... Electrocuting, drowning, beating to death, and torturing dogs is sick. There is no place in society for a POS like Vick. I'd be happy if the state tacked on another two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Dogfighting is cruel...Electrocuting, drowning, beating to death, and torturing dogs is sick. There is no place in society for a POS like Vick. I'd be happy if the state tacked on another two. Amen. And common sense prevails :applause: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Six months for killing one cat: http://www.salfordadvertiser.co.uk/news/s/1026578_animal_cruelty_sentence_upheld Four years for killing one dog: http://www.itchmo.com/four-year-sentence-for-dallas-animal-cruelty-conviction-3173 One year and one day for starving four dogs, all of which survived: http://petloverstips.com/ForTheLoveoftheDog/news-updates/florida-judge-sets-example-with-sentence-in-animal-cruelty-case One year for starving one dog to death: http://petloverstips.com/ForTheLoveoftheDog/news-updates/florida-judge-sets-example-with-sentence-in-animal-cruelty-case Now, as you guys well know, almost three-dozen dog carcasses were uncovered on Vick's property. Multiply that by any of the sentences above, and tell me again why Vick has been unjustly sentenced? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrumanB Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Six months for killing one cat: http://www.salfordadvertiser.co.uk/news/s/1026578_animal_cruelty_sentence_upheldFour years for killing one dog: http://www.itchmo.com/four-year-sentence-for-dallas-animal-cruelty-conviction-3173 One year and one day for starving four dogs, all of which survived: http://petloverstips.com/ForTheLoveoftheDog/news-updates/florida-judge-sets-example-with-sentence-in-animal-cruelty-case One year for starving one dog to death: http://petloverstips.com/ForTheLoveoftheDog/news-updates/florida-judge-sets-example-with-sentence-in-animal-cruelty-case Now, as you guys well know, almost three-dozen dog carcasses were uncovered on Vick's property. Multiply that by any of the sentences above, and tell me again why Vick has been unjustly sentenced? Wait a minute. Are you actually saying that Vick is not the only one EVER to be prosecuted for cruelty to animals? Learn something new every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teller Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Wait a minute. Are you actually saying that Vick is not the only one EVER to be prosecuted for cruelty to animals? Learn something new every day. Don't ya though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrumanB Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Don't ya though? Just think what these folks would have gotten if they were also financing and running an illegal gambling operation. I betcha they would have gotten more than 23 months. You know, this letter that Vick wrote is a joke. Who is he really trying to fool? Why should anyone believe him? His actions speak a lot louder than his BS words. Here are his actions: Action 1: completely deny any involvement in this dog fighting operation Action 2: lie to your boss (Falcons owner) and the NFL commissioner about it Action 3: after getting ratted out by his partners in crime, agree to a plea deal Action 4: break the 2 conditions of his plea deal: 1)cooperate with the FBI 2)don't smoke pot But, somehow, we're supposed to ignore all those things because he wrote a letter about how his sad upbringing was and how daddy made him smoke dope. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enter Apotheosis Posted December 15, 2007 Share Posted December 15, 2007 Don't ya though? It doesn't seem to me that the justice system is as concerned about the animals so much as it is the cruelty. If you prove yourself capable of that kind of sick behavior, you get punished. The degree of cruelty rarely relates to the actual length of the sentence. Doesn't make much sense... but very few things in our justice system do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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