NewCliche21 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 So - Um... I guess you don't watch much football?Name a team where the kicker kicks the ball in the end zone every time? The NFL moved the kickoff from the 35 to the 30 to make most balls returnable. My guess - And it is a guess, is that 75% of all kickoffs in the league are returned. And out of the 25% that aren't, most are eaither kicked out of bounds or had help from the wind. 2nd - Did you notice after the Jets game is when his KO's got shorter? They are kidcking it high on purpose. You don't think Thursday night was a matter of stradgegy? Lets see... The best Kick returner and the punt returner in the league, close game, and all punts were also short, high, and outside..... But naaaaa - SS kicks were all just bad kicks.... even though we were one of the few teams that played the bears that were NOT burned by hester.... 1) I've seen quite a few kickers kick it at least to the goal line consistently against us. Suisham kicks them to the 10 or 15. 2) Uh, didn't I explicitly say that the Bears game WAS strategy? I think I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muzzah Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 He's made 100% from under 30 yards. 30-39yd he is 7-9. 40-49yd he is9-12. He is tied 22nd for overall accuracy, so theres room to improve for sure. But lets face it, he makes the game winners consistently. Novak was 50-50 when going for game winners and Hall was, well Hall was always on the injury report. Is there a better candidate out there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaught76 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Still no. I mean, it'd be great to have an offense that makes a kicker a waste of a roster spot, but you basically just said "If 11 players are doing their jobs, then there shouldn't be a need for the other 42." That's simply unrealistic and not true. Where did I say the other players were inrelevant? I was simply saying if the offense does its job, then the kicker should be an unimportant part of the offense. To imply no defense, back ups, or special team players aren't important would be ludacris and taking what I said completely out of context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Where did I say the other players were inrelevant? I was simply saying if the offense does its job, then the kicker should be an unimportant part of the offense. To imply no defense, back ups, or special team players aren't important would be ludacris and taking what I said completely out of context. 1) I exaggerated what you said. I'm just saying that EVERY player is of equal importance. 2) Ludicrous = word. Ludacris = rapper. Oh the powers of MTV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbruce0 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I have been happy with SS this season, yes he has missed some kicks, but most of those misses have been some hard kicks to make, yes that missed PAT sure did suck, he didn't lose the game for us, he just helped the rest of the team lose the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 He's made 100% from under 30 yards. 30-39yd he is 7-9. 40-49yd he is9-12.He is tied 22nd for overall accuracy, so theres room to improve for sure. But lets face it, he makes the game winners consistently. Novak was 50-50 when going for game winners and Hall was, well Hall was always on the injury report. Is there a better candidate out there? I stay we stick with Shaun Suisham. I thought he was been very dependable. He missed too kick's against the Bears on a very cold night. He is young and has been suprisingly good. enough of this talk of a new kicker, he IS the answer right now and next season. let's focus on other players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 1) I exaggerated what you said. I'm just saying that EVERY player is of equal importance.2) Ludicrous = word. Ludacris = rapper. Oh the powers of MTV. MIke Tyson says, "Ith ludicrith, I'm very ethtatic to fight Evander holyfield." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HitStickTaylor21 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 I'm perfectly happy with Suisham. At the time, I wanted us to get H.B. Blades in the 5th round and Mason Crosby in the 6th, but oh well. I'm happy with him. He won us the games against the Dolphins and Jets, I don't see the problem right now. Even Adam Vinatieri has struggled this year. Kicking is so streaky, the next guy we bring in will have the same problems. Just keep Suisham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawyer5500 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Suisham is a good investment to keep around. With Danny Smith he can be a great kicker next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaught76 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 1) I exaggerated what you said. I'm just saying that EVERY player is of equal importance.2) Ludicrous = word. Ludacris = rapper. Oh the powers of MTV. Sorry and thank you on the spelling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted December 12, 2007 Share Posted December 12, 2007 Sorry and thank you on the spelling. I like the gold lettering. go skins Suisham is fine at kicker IMO. go skins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaught76 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I like the gold lettering. go skinsSuisham is fine at kicker IMO. go skins Thanks cp, your one of the few. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 A huge problem? When did this happen? If anything, he has been fairly consistent and that's not a problem. Despite a few misses, still feel pretty good when he goes out there to try a field goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsince72 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I'm ok with him on FG's. He could have a little more distance on kick off's though. I see a lot of kickers giving a lot of hang time and putting it behind the 5 yard line. SS's seem to be quick and landing at the 10 yard line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYEnglishGiant Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Giants fan here... you can have our kicker... he's missed 2 PATs and a bunch of short FGs and he's been horrible on kick-offs. he's been better lately (his kick-offs are still horrible) but if we have to reluy on him for a game winner there'll be a lot of VERY nervous giants fans. i still hold my breath every time he comes out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Confession: I'm a Redskins fan. I ***** about everything. I'd take Suisham over almost every kicker we've had in recent memory. But, because he's a kicker and we're losing, he sucks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 I have no problem with bringing in competition for training camp. If we had Mark Mosley I would still want competition, it just makes everyone better. That being said I think Suisham is our kicker for the next 5 years, and I feel good about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanyt Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Mason Crosby was there in the 6th round......... Yep I remember seeing that on draft day, but we went with one of the alternatives: Dallas Sartz in the 5th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrblonde3965 Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 everybody needs to shut up about suisham he is a decent reliable kicker this season and its close wins and tough losses has been hard on everyone including him. otherwise he has been very reliable. there arent a lot of good kickers out there no kicker makes it every time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TMK9973 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 3 for 3, including a 49 yarders in a crazy wind. The other teams kicker missed a 38 yarder. I would say the OP has just been PROVEN wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFK Lives Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Nicely bumped. SS surprised me last night but what surprised me more was that Gibbs let him kick that long one instead of pooch punting. I think that was the key play of the game as the momentum got going after the offense, said, hey we can score in these conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clubisyohankovic Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 a HUGE problem! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rm8899 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Everyone still complaining about Suisham now? after a 49 yarder in those conditions you better not. especially after seeing NY kicker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewCliche21 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Everyone still complaining about Suisham now? after a 49 yarder in those conditions you better not. especially after seeing NY kicker. Are you serious? No kick that night was made because of talent so much as luck. This game neither works for nor against my opinion of Suisham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky21 Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Nicely bumped. SS surprised me last night but what surprised me more was that Gibbs let him kick that long one instead of pooch punting. I think that was the key play of the game as the momentum got going after the offense, said, hey we can score in these conditions. Good point. That was a balls out call and a hell of a kick in that environment. One errant kick off aside, great game by Suisham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.