JosephGibbs Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I ask this because only one of the men pulled the trigger. Is it possible the others didn't know he had a gun? Maybe. Are all the men responsible for the outcome of the burglary that night, or should three of them just be charged with burglary? http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=31437981 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fight4oldc Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I ask this because only one of the men pulled the trigger. Is it possible the others didn't know he had a gun? Maybe. Are all the men responsible for the outcome of the burglary that night, or should three of them just be charged with burglary?http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=31437981 Yes and that punishment should be terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan4221977 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 All except the driver should get death by cojones-hanging. The driver should get 10 years if he testifies against them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRay Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Yes all of them should rot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief skin Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 all are accesories to the crime NO LAWYER BS, NO DEALS they are all responsible. Don't do the crime if you can't do the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave21 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Like i said before Kill em all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNut73 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I'm not buying the 'my client was unaware of the intent to rob' or 'he didn't know a gun was involved' type crap that we have heard/will be hearing. These are punk gang-bangers who should be punished to the fullest extent. I have no sympathy for the guy(s) who might say they had no idea what was going down. Tough ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardi's_kid_brother Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I dunno. I don't know the facts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeNoRevs Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I dont think this should in this forum.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbomb Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Hell yes, that's tough S**T if they didn't know Rivera had a gun. The only one I would have pity on would be if one stayed behind to try to help ST. BUT that didn't happen. Give them all life in prison with no possibility of parole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFan48 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 it doesnt matter if they thought he didnt have a gun or not the fact is someone died because of their stupid act. THeir all toast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFan48 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I was thinking the same thing. I dont think this should in this forum.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdl70 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I don't believe they should all receive the same punishment. The one that killed him, put him on trial for murder (unpremiditated/premeditated/accidental/whatever-the-law-allows). The rest should be put on trial for armed robbery or home invasion with a deadly weapon...whatever that charge was. They may have been there, but they weren't the ones that pulled the trigger. Sure they intended to rob him, but only one guy decided to shoot someone. I know I'm in the minority with this opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyUtah Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Living down here in Miami and subsequently in law school in FL, they are all responsible for the death of Sean b/c the murder happened during the commission of a felony and thus, they're all guilty of felony-murder. Here's the definition: felony murder doctrine n. a rule of criminal statutes that any death which occurs during the commission of a felony is first degree murder, and all participants in that felony or attempted felony can be charged with and found guilty of murder. A typical example is a robbery involving more than one criminal, in which one of them shoots, beats to death or runs over a store clerk, killing the clerk. Even if the death were accidental, all of the participants can be found guilty of felony murder, including those who did no harm, had no gun, and/or did not intend to hurt anyone. In a bizarre situation, if one of the holdup men or women is killed, his/her fellow robbers can be charged with murder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdl70 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Huh, didn't know that. I don't agree with the law, but a law's a law. Guess they're all looking at a murder charge. Sucks to be them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilmer21 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 They should all receive the same penalty and it should be terrifying and painful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingchris626 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Unfortunately it doesn't work out that way. I hope they all get life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 No they should not. One person pulled the trigger. If it was the plan all along to murder ST than I would say yes, but if it is infact a botched robbery then no. The other three could have had no idea their friend had brought a gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TampaSKINS Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 if they ever get to see population trust the mia boys WILL take good care of em, unless the guards dont get em first... unfortunately i have a good friend up the road and i hear theses kids are all the talk with inmates and guards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onnie007 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I'm not buying the 'my client was unaware of the intent to rob' or 'he didn't know a gun was involved' type crap that we have heard/will be hearing. These are punk gang-bangers who should be punished to the fullest extent. I have no sympathy for the guy(s) who might say they had no idea what was going down. Tough ****. Gotcha but there are elements to each crime. If your the defense and you can prove that one of the elements is not there then you get off. They are all being charged with Felony-Murder because a death occurred while they were committing a felony. It is now up to the defendants to assert their defenses, except for the trigger man. (BTW, I hope that they aren't cooperating to say that Eric Rivera was the triggerman because he was the minor in the bunch and thus safe from the death penalty) The defendants will all try to argue that they did not know that the triggerman had a gun and was going to kill someone. If they can successfully prove this then they will get off on the Felony Murder which is the stiffest charge of course. I think it obvious that the burglary charge with stick with all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevinklein Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Whatever the punishments are, the trigger puller should get the worst of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlt2622 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 The main question is, did they have any intention at all of shooting anyone in that home if someone did happen to be there. I dont think the others should get the death penalty. i really dont believe that they wanted to hurt taylor. it was a tragic accident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlt2622 Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 Whatever the punishments are, the trigger puller should get the worst of it. about ur sig.....brand lloyd did have a td this preseason. it was from collins to. FYI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LilSkinnette Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I ask this because only one of the men pulled the trigger. Is it possible the others didn't know he had a gun? Maybe. Are all the men responsible for the outcome of the burglary that night, or should three of them just be charged with burglary?http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=31437981 In a word --- yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titaw Posted December 7, 2007 Share Posted December 7, 2007 I believe that the only one that should get the murder conviction is the triggerman. If the rest knew he had a gun, which in all likelihood they did, then they should be charged with accessory to commit murder. The reason why I say the likelihood of the others knowing Rivera had a gun would be high is the fact that they were all young and dumb. Rivera probably showed the others the gun while in the car or sometime before. The other three should definately get the felony robbery charge AND the accessory charge, but they should not be punished for the stupidity of one individual. BTW, they HAD to know he was packing ESPECIALLY the other guy that was in the house with him. Do you honestly think that they busted down the door and ST allowed him to reach in is pants an pull out his gun before he started to carve dude up like a holiday ham? Dude had gun in hand probably as soon as he got out of the car. This has been really hard for me these past couple of weeks. I still seems so unreal. I keep reading things about the whole robbery and I keep thinking what if? All I know is that we lost an HUGE part of all of us fans out there a little over a week ago and it is going to be a LONG time until we come to some sort of normalcy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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