stwasm Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Another sign of the decline of Western civilization. http://www.nytimes.com/2007/11/20/sports/football/20fans.html?_r=3&hp=&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print&oref=slogin At halftime of the Jets’ home game against the Pittsburgh Steelers on Sunday, several hundred men lined one of Giants Stadium’s two pedestrian ramps at Gate D. Three deep in some areas, they whistled and jumped up and down. Then they began an obscenity-laced chant, demanding that the few women in the gathering expose their breasts. When one woman appeared to be on the verge of obliging, the hooting and hollering intensified. But then she walked away, and plastic beer bottles and spit went flying. Boos swept through the crowd of unsatisfied men. Marco Hoffner, an 18-year-old from Lacey Township, N.J., was expecting to see more. Not from the Jets — they pulled off a big upset over the Steelers. He wanted more from the alternative halftime show that, according to many fans, has been a staple at Jets home games for years. “Very disappointed, because we’re used to seeing a lot,” Hoffner said. The mood of previous Gate D crowds — captured on video clips posted on YouTube — sometimes bordered on hostile, not unlike the spirit of infamously aggressive European soccer hooligans. One clip online shows a woman being groped by a man standing next to her. Sunday’s scene played out for about 20 minutes, and at least one woman granted the men’s request, setting off a roar as if the former star running back Curtis Martin had just scored a touchdown. Martin was actually nearby, being honored on the field in the official halftime show, which had a far less intense audience. Throughout halftime, about 10 security guards in yellow jackets stood near the bottom of the circular, multilevel ramp, located beyond the stadium’s concourse of concession stands and restrooms. One of the guards was smoking a cigarette; many fans do the same during halftime on the giant ramps, which are located at each corner of the stadium. Another guard later said they were not permitted to do anything about the chants at Gate D because of free speech laws. Yet when a reporter tried to interview two security guards after halftime, he was detained in a holding room, threatened with arrest and asked to hand over his tape recorder. The New Jersey Sports and Exposition Authority, which provides security at Giants Stadium for Jets and Giants games, is aware of the raucous and raunchy halftime show. Patrick C. Aramini, the authority’s vice president for security, parking and traffic for the Meadowlands Sports Complex, said men and women could be expelled and even turned over to the New Jersey State Police to be arrested for their participation — although he said he did not know if anyone was cited Sunday. He added that other measures, like blocking access to the ramps, were being considered. “The problem is, you got to watch four or five hundred people sometimes in the one particular spiral,” Aramini said. “What do we do, arrest everybody that starts chanting?” Such fan behavior is not uncommon at other sporting events in the United States, like Nascar races and the infield at the Kentucky Derby. There was even an infamous undressing in the National Football League’s marquee event: during the 2004 Super Bowl halftime show, a “wardrobe malfunction” exposed Janet Jackson’s right breast before a worldwide televised audience. But the Gate D tradition at Giants Stadium apparently is unique to Jets games; the Gate D ramps are comparatively empty at Giants games. Perhaps forlorn Jets fans, who have rarely had a winning team to support, are seeking alternative entertainment on game days. “This is the game,” said Patrick Scofield, a 20-year-old from Poughkeepsie, N.Y., who has attended several Jets games the last two seasons. Denisse Rivera, a 23-year-old from the Bronx, was on a first date Sunday. When she arrived at the crowd at Gate D, several men pointed at her, signaling men at all levels to chant in her direction. After a brief moment of hesitation, she flashed them. Then she took a bow. “I don’t care,” Rivera said when told that video clips of previous incidents, taken on cellphones, ended up online. “I love my body and I like what I have, so let everybody share it.” Two security guards soon approached Rivera. The guards warned her about indecent exposure laws, she said, and let her go. Jets officials declined to be interviewed about the halftime tradition at their home games. In a statement, the team said: “We expect our fans to comply with all rules at the stadium, and the vast majority do. For those who don’t, we expect and encourage N.J.S.E.A. security to take appropriate action.” Greg Aiello, an N.F.L. spokesman, said, “I would defer any comment to law enforcement and the people on the stadium authority there that are in charge of fan-conduct issues.” The State Police staffs every Jets home game. But Sgt. Stephen Jones, a spokesman, said the State Police did not make an attempt to prevent fans from congregating in Giants Stadium. But he said that there were incidents of fans throwing money into the center of the spiral ramps. Those fans then threw objects at children picking up the money. Access to the center of the ramps is now blocked off by a chain-link fence. “Our emphasis is certainly not general security,” Jones said. “Something like you’re describing, the stairwell behavior, is a matter that the security would handle. Now if they come up with something where somebody needs to be arrested, the troops will go out there and effect that arrest.” Some parents are not pleased with the halftime activities away from the field. Randall Lazzaro, a 40-year-old from New Jersey, attended Sunday’s game with his wife and two sons, ages 6 and 9. He was at the base of Gate D shortly before halftime and said that cursing at games was probably the main reason parents did not want to take their kids to games. When Lazzaro was told what was about to happen on the ramps at Gate D, he said, “That’s a disgusting practice and the police have to get involved, put a stop to it.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RW Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 T! I!.......... well, I was gonna say it but I don't need to get banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rskins91 Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 I see Jets fans are continuing their classy behavior. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidenreich Posted November 20, 2007 Share Posted November 20, 2007 Please, drunk men want to see girls flash them everywhere they go. I know Jets fans are degenerates, but I guarantee people at FedEx would stop & watch the show as well...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Interesting that ALL related videos have been removed from both YouTube and Google video. I checked. For research purposes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOSKINS_08 Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 I went to the Redskins game in Dallas Sunday, and when I was in the parking lot waiting for the shuttle to take us back to the hotel, there was a woman in a limo standing out of the hole on top of the limo..And there were a bunch of guys standing around her, and she pulled her shirt up and showed everybody there her tits..And everybody standing around there starting cheering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 News clip with some video footage: http://wcbstv.com/local/jets.giants.stadium.2.592439.html Seems tame to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC4 Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 What do you expect from fans of a team that hasn't won a Super Bowl since BEFORE Woodstock :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stwasm Posted November 21, 2007 Author Share Posted November 21, 2007 Please, drunk men want to see girls flash them everywhere they go. I know Jets fans are degenerates, but I guarantee people at FedEx would stop & watch the show as well...... With the way the behavior of fans at FedEx Field has deteriorated recently, I'm surprised this hasn't happened, already. Interesting that ALL related videos have been removed from both YouTube and Google video.I checked. For research purposes. And we appreciate your dedication to research! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipwhich Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 stwasm this stuff happens all over the place now. Orioles opening day at pickles pub, girls hang out of the upstairs windows pulling off their tops while men cheer below. Preakness. Outdoor concerts at rfk. This is standard fare in todays society. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reic Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Hmm, I flash everyone, I don't understand what the big deal is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heidenreich Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Years ago, (late nineties, early 200's), when Opie & Anthony were only working in NYC, they had a "Celebrity" Softball game in Newark, New Jersey. Those of you that know O & A, know that one of their main bits, is "Whip Em out Wednesday" Which encourages girls to flash. I was one of the lucky ones in attendance. And the ratio was at least 50 to 1, guys to girls. Every woman there was harassed, ogled, groped, you name it. And if she didn't oblige, it was because she was a "whore" (naturally). What I saw go on that day makes this Jets story seem like a walk in the park..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stwasm Posted November 21, 2007 Author Share Posted November 21, 2007 stwasm this stuff happens all over the place now.Orioles opening day at pickles pub, girls hang out of the upstairs windows pulling off their tops while men cheer below. Preakness. Outdoor concerts at rfk. This is standard fare in todays society. Just because it's "standard" doesn't make it right. That's really sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MisterPinstripe Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Just because it's "standard" doesn't make it right. That's really sad. This society is definitely screwed up when it comes to nudity and sex. Its a part of the culture and we see the results in such things like the Jets "Halftime Show". If a girl doesnt flash she is mocked and ragged on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paige3girl Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Not sure if this has been posted, but on Sunday at our Skins bar a friend was telling us all about this... he saw it all when he was at the Jets game the week before NFL, Giants Stadium in Hot Water for Breast-Baring Ritual Among Fans Tuesday , November 20, 2007 By Catherine Donaldson-Evans Giants Stadium management, the National Football League and the New York Jets are in the hot seat over a practice that has become a halftime ritual at Jets games: lewd, drunken male fans shouting at women to expose their breasts. The men whoop, whistle, chant and stomp for female fans to lift up their shirts and bras, often shouting obscenities in the process. Some women comply with the jeering requests. When the male spectators don't get their wish, they frequently grow nasty — booing, spitting and throwing beer bottles at the women they're targeting. Read More... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheers, Beers and Mountaineers Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 First to say it, this thread is useless without pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paige3girl Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 First to say it, this thread is useless without pics. I am sure if you googled it or went on you tube you would get what you want... our friend said everyone had camera phones and cameras... so I am sure there is plenty of video out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan T. Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 I am sure if you googled it or went on you tube you would get what you want... our friend said everyone had camera phones and cameras... so I am sure there is plenty of video out there. Actually all the videos have been removed from both YouTube and Google, I checked. In the name of research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 News clip with some video footage: http://wcbstv.com/local/jets.giants.stadium.2.592439.html Seems tame to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stwasm Posted November 21, 2007 Author Share Posted November 21, 2007 Check "Around the NFL," folks: http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=222761 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bounce Posted November 21, 2007 Share Posted November 21, 2007 Just because it's "standard" doesn't make it right. That's really sad. Sad? Really? That's the word you choose for those situations, which seem to be choices that are made of the womens' own free will because they want to do such a thing? Are you sure you're not the one with the screwed-up priorities? This society is definitely screwed up when it comes to nudity and sex. You're right. We're not nearly tolerant enough of it compared to the rest of the Western world. (Yes, yes, I know that's not what you were getting at.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81artmonk Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 First, if the women are stupid enough to do it, than....well you know the saying. Second, only more proof why alcohol should be banned from sporting events!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shilsu Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Sad? Really? That's the word you choose for those situations, which seem to be choices that are made of the womens' own free will because they want to do such a thing? Are you sure you're not the one with the screwed-up priorities? Yeah it's such free will that if they don't want to do it, they get objects thrown at them. I don't have a problem with the girls who feel like doing it. I have a problem when girls who don't want to flash their tits and be an attention whore are made to feel uncomfortable and put in potential dangerous situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FedExFielder Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 Nothing like that ever happened when I worked security at Ford Field last year for not being able to break something like that up for not being able to break something like that up and not having to see Detroit girls' ta-ta's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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