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I was having an argument with a buddy the other day about whether native americans find the name "Redskins" offensive. I could have sworn there was a recent study showing that the vast majority of native americans did not find it offensive, but couldn't pinpoint it. Help me, my brethren, so that I may triumph in this argument.

Sorry if this has been dealt with before. I ran a search on the key terms "offensive Redskins name" and the only result that appeared was a picture of Brandon Lloyd.

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most native americans do not find the name offensive.The University of Pennsylvania just did a study on it a few months ago and found that over 85% of native americans do NOT find the name offensive. However, they do hate the drunk indian on the Cleveland Indians logo.

Any chance you have a link to this study?

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oh damn, here we go again. I thought this thread normally pops up in the off season.

just for the record, I grew up knowing a large native american family and hell yea, they are offended by the name.

That being said...

Hail to the Redskins!

so that family means the other 85% don't count? as a whole it doesn't bother most native americans. To the white people who say the name should change, is changing the name of a FOOTBALL team going to make up for the wholesale slaughter of an entire race of a people, the stealing of their land and resources, and the overall government sanctioned raping of their people? How about starting with giving your land back to them and making some more reperations than legalized gambling. Then maybe the Redskins name becomes relevant to the argument. I don't see anybody forking over their land; put your money where your mouth is, whiney PC losers.

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I've responded to threads like this before...

I worked at an Indian casino for 8 years in Arizona and knew ALOT of Native Americans...being as die hard a Skins fan as I am I asked MANY of them what they thought of the name/logo. Not one person thought of it as being offensive. In fact, some of them claimed to like the Redskins BECAUSE of the name/logo.

Trust me, there are far greater concerns on most reservations thatn what some team calls itself. Alcoholism and Diabetes is very high on most reservations...the communities that have gaming are very often able to provide servies for the community but it takes alot of hard work and focus...

In my experience, the continuted debate over this is insulting to Native Americans...it really is NOT an issue with the vast majority.

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I think Indians have a few bigger issues on their collective plates than the name of the Washington DC professional football franchise.

Of course, real issues don't get you nearly enough face time on TV, so....

Ignorance is bliss isn't it.

Racism in the form of sports franchise names is a big issue.

I'm a 'Skins fan until I die but I don't deny that Redskin is racist, as is Indian, Brave, Warrior, etc.

The Native Americans that I know (and I'm talking about professors and college students) do have issues with the names. But in truth they have an issue with how it's all portrayed more than anything.

The cartoonish Cleveland emblem for example is insanely racist.

Tha fact that our band wears traditional native head dress is racist and sterotypical. Our fans chanting and beating drums is racist.

My Native American Studies prof has explained that if teams like the Redskins used the name with honor they would have zero problem. But from what I have seen on tv of our games we don't. We use the sterotypical images and run with them.

One day our team will lose it's name and truth be told it'll be the FO's fault for not adjusting and bringing in Native Americans and asking what can we do to keep our name and honor your legacy at the same time.

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Wow, good post. I always thought that our logo showed the Native American as a dignified warrior. The profile is that of an actual man. Not a nation, or a tribe. You don't see a bunch of banging on drums or tomahawk chops by our team or our fans. We treat the image with the respect it deserves.

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most native americans do not find the name offensive.The University of Pennsylvania just did a study on it a few months ago and found that over 85% of native americans do NOT find the name offensive. However, they do hate the drunk indian on the Cleveland Indians logo.

I hate that Cleveland Indians logo. It looks too much like a cartoon character and is just as bad as the "black sambo" character with the exaggerated lips.

I must admit, though, it made me pause when, while watching a Lone Ranger episode, some cowboys were harassing Tonto and one of them derisively called him, "redskin." I guess it's all perception.

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most native americans do not find the name offensive.The University of Pennsylvania just did a study on it a few months ago and found that over 85% of native americans do NOT find the name offensive. However, they do hate the drunk indian on the Cleveland Indians logo.

I don't blame them for hating the Cleveland Indians mascot. "Chief Knock-a-homer". The Redskins is a term describing Native Americans who painted red on their face before battle. Our logo is the face of a Native American and actually looks dignified. The Indians mascot is this cartoonish, red-face with a cheesey smile on his face.

I remember when we were to play Seattle in the playoffs in '05, and that is all the press talked about over there, how offensive to the Native Americans our name is. The only person they interviewed on this who was Native American was some teenage girl. Yeah, that's the best source for an informed opinion :rolleyes: . There was zero mention in any of the articles about the University of PA study. There was also zero mention of the origin of the Redskins name, which I mentioned above. They also tried rehashing the old hit-piece on Chief Z, saying he wasn't a part of their culture, and was disgracing it. Sorry, but how is naming a team after your people offensive? Teams generally pick names that portray an image of toughness, which means it's a sign of respect. Have the Skins ever done anything to belittle or make fun of Native Americans?

Also, none pointed out that when the team was originally in Boston, they were named the Braves, after the baseball team. Several football teams did this when they started out. We kept with the Native American mantra when we moved to D.C. Like another poster said, the only people who act offended are whiny, white uber-liberals. You know, the ones who only whine, never actually help any cause, and quickly move on to the next "flavor of the month" cause. Too bad guys, the name isn't going to change. Not while the Skins are one of the most profitable sports franchises in the world.

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Also, none pointed out that when the team was originally in Boston, they were named the Braves, after the baseball team. Several football teams did this when they started out. We kept with the Native American mantra when we moved to D.C. Like another poster said, the only people who act offended are whiny, white uber-liberals. You know, the ones who only whine, never actually help any cause, and quickly move on to the next "flavor of the month" cause. Too bad guys, the name isn't going to change. Not while the Skins are one of the most profitable sports franchises in the world.

The Redskins only went by the nickname Braves for one season. They moved in 1933 to Fenways Park and to the name Redskins to go with Red Sox and still keep their native american vibe. They made the championship game in 1936 (a home game) at Yankee Stadium due to Marshall's contempt for the fans and their lack of support. They opened the next season in DC and won the champioship with SLingin Sammy Baugh. But for the record, they were named the Redskins in Boston. So stop blaming DC, haters.

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The Native American Half of me doesn't have a problem with it while my African American Half feels left out of the discussion because there aren't any Major Sports Teams that represent :D:rolleyes:

Then again teams with generic white people mascots and names get all kinds of grief like the pioneers, minutemen, Colonials heck some were changed

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Some do some don't. I don't see why they would, it was once a derogatory term but no longer is. Just as Cowboy once was. Or how ND's mascot is the "Fighting Irish." Does that mean all Irish get drunk and fight? As an Irish citizen (dual citizenship) am I offended? No, it's a game.

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