Leonard Washington Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 SPRINGS Springs started the year shaky. After summer contract issues, the skins seemed to want to arrington/archeleta/lloyd him. Even Springs thought he may not get significant playing time. After seeing that we needed the guy, he has been playing more and is quietly having a nice season in the face of extreme adversity (34 tackles and a forced fumble in 6 starts/8 appearances). SMOOT After getting molested as a viking, Smoot has returned back to us! He has been targeted but he has improved as the season progressed. Now that Rogers is out, I think Smoot will get back to being a leader in INTs. I love his attitude, and his swagger really brings something extra to the skins. TOGETHER These guys seem to be the master of playing off the receiver without looking like an idiots (sorry Rogers/Torrence). If we can make a playoff push, these guys will be instrumental due to their playmaking skills. HTTR :cool: :eaglesuck :point2sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinSince87 Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Spring minus a lot of INTs is playing lights out, Smoot is so so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redskins59 Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 As seaon progresses, people will start to realize how valuable Carlos Rogers is to us. Except for a couple of bad plays by Carlos, before his injury, he was essentially a shutdown corner. Sure, he can't make interceptions, but that's why he is no wide receiver. Trust me, Smoot is nowhere as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emor09 Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Springs has made SO MANY great tackles this year, it is ridiculous how great he is tackling Smoot brings energy, and a lot of it. Smoot likes to gamble, he hasnt lost yet, but he hasnt won either, i hope his gambles start to pay off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted November 6, 2007 Author Share Posted November 6, 2007 As seaon progresses, people will start to realize how valuable Carlos Rogers is to us. Except for a couple of bad plays by Carlos, before his injury, he was essentially a shutdown corner. Sure, he can't make interceptions, but that's why he is no wide receiver. Trust me, Smoot is nowhere as good. I like Carlos. He is a good corner. He just doesn't generate big plays. He'll tackle a guy for a loss or limit YAC, but he doesn't make the momentum changing play. He seems to be missing something you can't teach or maybe the coaching staff has him playing like a robot. Two interceptions by Smoot/Springs, and everyone will be like "Carlos who?". Don't get me wrong, Rogers is the type of player we need on this team. A steady blue collar guy who plays it safe. Given how conservative our offense can be, we are going to be in games this season where we need a spark and guys like Smoot and Springs can provide it. No knock against Rogers, but this CB combo brings something extra to the table. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 landry will need probably be used to help out the CBs from now on. They are banged up, I just hope they can stay with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Rook Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 As seaon progresses, people will start to realize how valuable Carlos Rogers is to us. Except for a couple of bad plays by Carlos, before his injury, he was essentially a shutdown corner. Sure, he can't make interceptions, but that's why he is no wide receiver. Trust me, Smoot is nowhere as good. Heck, our wide receivers aren't playing like wide receivers. :doh: :helmet: The Rook Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vi Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Springs is really a staple in this D. His tackling and constancy is paramount to the function of the entire defensive unit. Smoot's energy and enthusiasm may be his greatest asset for this team. Play-wise, we has been playing acceptably well this season and his tackling is somewhat better than I remember it being. He's not a shut-down corner by any means, but I'm very glad he is here none the less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM916 Posted November 6, 2007 Share Posted November 6, 2007 Smoot was back to his old self last week. Did anyone catch that play where the receiver he had no doubt been harassing all day dropped an easy throw because he looked back at Smoot before he caught it? Then Smoot came up and patted him on the back. I loved it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFan48 Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 smoot will have to step up for sure. I think he's more motivated now that hes back here. Heres to a new beginning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alldaz Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 They haven't really been attacked consistently because opposing teams have more success with swing passes, passes hitting the middle of the field, and deep outs ...If you notice our corners pass coverage to the safeties A LOT! My opinion is... Fred Smoot needs to bulk up...I don't care if you feel you are a cornerback & not a bodybuilder...I believe he is frail when he has to make certain tackles on offensive players, and I believe he would be better if he bulked up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alldaz Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I like Carlos. He is a good corner. He just doesn't generate big plays. He'll tackle a guy for a loss or limit YAC, but he doesn't make the momentum changing play. He seems to be missing something you can't teach or maybe the coaching staff has him playing like a robot. Two interceptions by Smoot/Springs, and everyone will be like "Carlos who?". Don't get me wrong, Rogers is the type of player we need on this team. A steady blue collar guy who plays it safe. Given how conservative our offense can be, we are going to be in games this season where we need a spark and guys like Smoot and Springs can provide it. No knock against Rogers, but this CB combo brings something extra to the table. I think what happened with Rogers was last year's terrible season...He was thrown into the fire on many occassions/games and his development from rookie year was curbed because the situations weren't permissible for further development...It was lay it all on the line, which is good but when you are still developing as a player, it's like stunting one's growth...He had a very good rookie season...The year after I just don't feel he was able to build upon his technique...And before his injury, it was almost like he was given the go-ahead to play how he knows best, instead of learning to play better... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One Shot Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I like all of our corners. I'm worried about Smoots hamstring though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Washington53fan Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I miss rogers a LOT because he was developing into a solid corner this year, but IF (BIG IF) smoot/springs stay healthy, they should get the job done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chick_in_B&G Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 "SMOOT After getting molested as a viking, Smoot has returned back to us! He has been targeted but he has improved as the season progressed. Now that Rogers is out, I think Smoot will get back to being a leader in INTs. I love his attitude, and his swagger really brings something extra to the skins." Well, Smoot better get a move on then. He has to grab at least six INTS to top ST. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfreak57 Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 I like Smoot and Springs but you can def. see a difference without Rogers in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaryClarkFan Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Springs-good Smoot-sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ComebackKing Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Smoot needs to get healthy. He can be an ok Corner, just gotta get over that dang hamstring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Both are doing okay. Feel better about Smoot when he's a 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smoot Point Really Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Rogers went from being a very poor-average cornerback last year to being an average NFL cornerback this year. It is disappointing he is injured. We could use the depth, especially since they aren't using Macklin (that's annoying). For Fred Smoot to not live up to what Carlos Rogers gave us (even this year), he would have to miss at least one critical play every game and not help generate substantive turnovers. Fred Smoot's gambling cost us one large play on Sunday, but it's hard to blame him since Kellen Clemmons (sp?) was running for large chunks of yardage. How does Gregg Williams not make a half-time adjustment to count for that? I believe Smoot's gambling is what makes him more effective in man coverage and less effective in zone coverage. Smoot is a capable tackler and if anyone has been limiting YAC this season, it has been Smoot. Springs has played as well this year as he has in any season. His tackling the last two weeks has been amazing. He isn't getting INTs, but that FF he caused on Sunday really made the difference in the game. Both guys need to be healthy... For the rest of the season. It will be interesting to see what changes the Eagles make and if Gregg Williams puts pressure on their WRs like he did last time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gator Bait Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 As seaon progresses, people will start to realize how valuable Carlos Rogers is to us. Except for a couple of bad plays by Carlos, before his injury, he was essentially a shutdown corner. Sure, he can't make interceptions, but that's why he is no wide receiver. Trust me, Smoot is nowhere as good. i'm not sure if calling rogers a shutdown corner is the funniest or the dumbest thing I've ever heard. either way, it is a false statement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyndorf25 Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Heck, our wide receivers aren't playing like wide receivers. :doh: :applause: LOL I can only dream of what this offense might look like with a taller, top-flight WR to take the pressure off of Moss and ARE. Imagine for a minute what a Chad Johnson or a Larry Fitzgerald would do for this offense...and Campbell's development. :drool: Oh yeah, sorry. Daydreaming again. This is a thread about Springs and Smoot. I think they are doing fairly well. They get a lot of help from the Safeties but bye and large they have been pretty solid, but not spectacular, IMO. Their tackling has certainly been their strong point. They have not gotten many INTs but they also have not let up the big pass like they were doing all of last year. I just hope these guys can stay healthy. Now that Rogers is gone for the year, I truly realize how precarious the CB situation is (is that a Cinderella song I hear in the background?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyndorf25 Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Rogers went from being a very poor-average cornerback last year to being an average NFL cornerback this year. It is disappointing he is injured. We could use the depth, especially since they aren't using Macklin (that's annoying)... Yeah I was kinda wondering what happened to Macklin. Why isnt he playing ahead of...uh...whatever that other guys name is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HogLife4Ever Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 Deep routes havent been an issue (except Pats game), we need to tighten up on the short outs and posts. :eaglesuck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onnie007 Posted November 7, 2007 Share Posted November 7, 2007 As seaon progresses, people will start to realize how valuable Carlos Rogers is to us. Except for a couple of bad plays by Carlos, before his injury, he was essentially a shutdown corner. Sure, he can't make interceptions, but that's why he is no wide receiver. Trust me, Smoot is nowhere as good. Didn't Carlos have a pick-6 in the Detriot Lions game? I love all three. We need Smoot to get healthy but I understand how difficult it is to practice and he heal a hamstring injury. Its impossible. You need rest, elevation and ice. Hopefully, he will be permitted to skip practice this week and play on Sunday cause thats the only way his hammy will get better. However, I prefer Torrence over Prioleau in Nickel situations. Prioleau is getting toasted in short yardage situations. (He blew his assignment in the Cardinals game in the TD right before the half and got beat by Welker on the goaline with a simple spot route). Lets see what we have in the young Leigh Torrence. He did great against Randy Moss and the TD he gave up to him was an obvious push-off by Randy so I won't knock him for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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