One Shot Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 I disagree with your bluntness and Andre Carter doesn't "suck". But at the same time, I think too many feel that one sack per game is enough. They think that if he gets 15-16 sacks this season, he's done his job. But that isn't the case. He has to put consistent pressure on the QB, that's more important. Obviously, as a result, he'll get more sacks, but the amount of pressure he puts on the QB is what counts. If he's doing that, he's doing his job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsWon3ForAReason Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Did you mean to type "Aaron Carter" instead of "Andre Carter"? If you meant Aaron Carter, then I agree. If you meant Andre Carter, then I disagree. I think Andre Carter has done a decent job. Is it just me or does it seem like Andre Carter is so close to making a lot more plays and having a bigger impact on the game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_cavalierman Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Andre Carter is a be careful what you wish for scenario come to life. Redskins fans begged and pleaded for a pass rusher and we got one in Andre Carter. The problem is Carter is about 256 pounds so although he can sack people he becomes a liability when teams target his edge to run on. Considering Rocky McIntosh is also light and fleet there is no one on the right side that is a real run stuffer Except Sean Taylor who is no longer supporting the run as much. Carter is a good football player and hopefully he will be able to get a little more stout against the run while he continues to get sacks. I wish Carter was a freak of nature like Julius Peppers who at 280 pounds runs like a gazzelle, but we are not so fortunate. Andre Carter does not suck...but Greg Williams needs to figure out a way to cover up the problem the Giants exposed last week on the right side of the D-line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_cavalierman Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Did you mean to type "Aaron Carter" instead of "Andre Carter"?If you meant Aaron Carter, then I agree. If you meant Andre Carter, then I disagree. I think Andre Carter has done a decent job. Is it just me or does it seem like Andre Carter is so close to making a lot more plays and having a bigger impact on the game? You are seeing what a lot of folks are seeing. Carter is getting into the fray this year, but the Giants ran him over last week. He needs to stick some sandbags in his pocket so he won't get rag-dolled when teams run at him. Other than that...he has been very impactful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thirtyfive2seven Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Carter reminds me of Kula. Situational pass rusher. The sad part is, he's our best defensive linemen along with Griff. I don't understand why the OP decided to just throw him under a bus though. Someone piss in your cornflakes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana_Fan Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Carter is fine. its daniels Im not too crazy about. Ive said it before. MAN I hape we get calais campbell at the 32nd overall pick. I like Dorsey out of LSU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laxpunk2006 Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 I'm not sure what the gripe here is. Through 3 games we're #10 at stopping the run in the league. Andre has been getting great pressure. His stats are moderate but he has been so close to making multiple plays. This might not show up on the stat sheet but he is forcing QB's to act faster and get the ball out of their hands. I obviously am looking for Carter to continue improving throughout the year but I think he is doing great. Maybe it's just these burgandy glasses I'm wearing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin11 Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 I disagree with your bluntness and Andre Carter doesn't "suck". But at the same time, I think too many feel that one sack per game is enough. They think that if he gets 15-16 sacks this season, he's done his job. But that isn't the case. He has to put consistent pressure on the QB, that's more important. Obviously, as a result, he'll get more sacks, but the amount of pressure he puts on the QB is what counts. If he's doing that, he's doing his job. no, i said he gets pressure alot. Just because he isnt sacking means he is getting sacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevin11 Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 I like Dorsey out of LSU.thats a DT and hes a top5 pick. Hopefully, we arent that highHe dont need DT, ours are fine. Griffin, Golston, montogomery, and others We need a DE to replace Daniels, but i dont think we should pick one with our 1st pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stone Cold Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 he sucks?...but does he, well nevermind... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seanyt Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Well at this point this season I can't tottaly agree, but that Okoye kid aint too bad in Houston. The Kid is up to 4 sacks... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D'Pablo Posted September 30, 2007 Author Share Posted September 30, 2007 First off, I completely stand by what I've said. I have game tape to back me up. This isn't completely out of the blue to me, either. It's something I've had on my mind and haven't had the time to review film to validate it. You're entitled to disagree, but I'm right. I'll admit that "sucks" is pretty strong considering that Carter can get pressure. However, if he keeps getting manhandled in run support, his value is greatly diminished. He was visible tired by the beginning of the fourth quarter against the Giants. A lot of that had to do with him being blown off the line constantly in the previous quarter. The Giants don't have world-beaters at OT. Last year, many of us, myself included, wanted to believe that Warrick Holdman was the sole reason our run D was weak on the right side. Having seen teams exploit that area in nearly every game this season, it leads me to believe that Holdman wasn't the only issue. There seems to be pattern of stretch plays to our right that each team has run, gaining 8 yards a pop (sometimes more). An every-down 250lbs D-lineman in this era of professional football is ridiculous. At least Dwight Freeney, whom many consider under-sized, is close to 270 lbs. To some people this weight issue isn't important, but I think it's crucial. I think my main gripe is that he has had two offseasons to put on weight since reverting back to a DE and hasn't done so. This team is equipped to handle any run support issues with our D-line. In that sense, we're a lot like a 3-4 D, with our linemen clogging up the O-line. When one guy struggles, Carter in this case, our entire D struggles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cphil006 Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 he hasn't been over run. The problem with this site is the important threads get knocked lower because garbage threads like this are made. Make a legit thread with a legit title... this is crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 Carter is on his way to get a double digit sack total by the end of this year barring injury. Where do these guys get this crap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaMuller7 Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 I'm surprised no one has hit on this. It seems like every long run against the skins has involved this guy getting shoved back 20 yards. He can't hold his ground at all. He has two sacks on the season and people are willing to forget that he gets run over constantly. I'm surprised teams haven't been running to his side more often considering the success last season. It should be a crime for our coaches to allow a 252lbs DE out on the field on every down. Blah blah blah, quit whining, he's our best Defensive Lineman...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoudMouth12thMan Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 I'm surprised no one has hit on this. It seems like every long run against the skins has involved this guy getting shoved back 20 yards. He can't hold his ground at all. He has two sacks on the season and people are willing to forget that he gets run over constantly. I'm surprised teams haven't been running to his side more often considering the success last season. It should be a crime for our coaches to allow a 252lbs DE out on the field on every down. Glasses and professional football 101 book anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasSucks19922010 Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 :doh: You dont remember Holdman? What? Highway 57 was our best linebacker! haha i couldnt stand Holdman at all and carter gets double teamed like all the time because hes a beast. o well i have no idea why people have to be so negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HailfrmDEN Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 I watched the game and carter and griffin were double teamed most the game. We do need a DE to replace Daniels. I like him but it may be his time. Are DTs didn't do great but didn't suck.:point2sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commander Adama Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 I'm surprised no one has hit on this. It seems like every long run against the skins has involved this guy getting shoved back 20 yards. He can't hold his ground at all. He has two sacks on the season and people are willing to forget that he gets run over constantly. I'm surprised teams haven't been running to his side more often considering the success last season. It should be a crime for our coaches to allow a 252lbs DE out on the field on every down. This post sucks! Heh Honestly, let's say he got 1 sack a game that would be 16 sacks on the year which is unheard of. So, having 2 sacks in 3 games is very good. I honestly have no idea what you are talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsNoles21 Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 it was only a matter of time... Ethan Albright thread...thats exactly what I was talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
909997 Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 ii have brought this up before his average pass rushing ability isnt worth keeping him on the feild with his crappy run D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillasSkins Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 andre carter started last year on the other side of the line for most games, towards the end of the season him and daniels flip flopped, then he was getting sacks, i think carter would be better as a DT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
method man Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 ii have brought this up beforehis average pass rushing ability isnt worth keeping him on the feild with his crappy run D. The type of DE that is best in this scheme is a bullrusher like Daniels because they are big enough to take both the run and the pass. We need to get ourselves a young bullrusher in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enter Apotheosis Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 First off' date=' I completely stand by what I've said. I have game tape to back me up. This isn't completely out of the blue to me, either. It's something I've had on my mind and haven't had the time to review film to validate it. You're entitled to disagree, but I'm right.[/quote']If we give up 3.2 ypc every game because of Andre Carter getting picked on, I'm far from worried. In other words, the Giants game was not exactly a great game to pick if you want to point out one of our guy's failings in run support. While the Eagles game is a better example, it was clear to me that missed tackles and hesitation by our LBs was the bigger issue. It seems to me that you also ignore the fact that he does make plays in run support with his speed and motor despite the fact that he can get pushed around a little. Carter has made plenty of tackles for us in his tenure here where he's managed to find his way to the other side of the field to bring a guy down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcarey032 Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 yeah well where was this thread last week after the loss? I don't understand where this one is coming from. The defense was on the field for most of the second half! I can't put this one on the defense. The offense had done its' job, we wouldn't be talking about a loss right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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