Zen-like Todd Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Here's my shot at the offense. Keep in mind, some positions are particularly strong and others weak, so not seeing your team's player at a position doesn't necessarily mean he sucks. LT - Chris Samuels LG - Shawn Andrews C - Casey Rabach LG - Randy Thomas RT - Nobody jumps out at me at this point in each of their respective careers. It's a total crapshoot between Runyan, Jansen, and the detritus in New York/Dallas. TE - Chris Cooley TE - Jason Witten WR - Santana Moss WR - Plaxico Burress QB - Donovan McNabb RB - Clinton Portis That's my 11 man, 2 TE starting lineup. I'm sure the WR lineup will surprise some people, but I'm tryng to build a team here. Moss and Plexiglass gets you a bigger guy and a smaller quick guy, and both can get down the field. Many will argue for T.O., but team chemistry is a concern. Either Terry Glenn or Terrell Owens would be the third WR if we go 3 wide, if you can stomach having Terrell on your roster at all. Brian Westbrook gets the job of third down back. I'm partial to Sellers as a fullback. I'm going to hold off on doing the defense for a bit, as the Cowboys 3-4 defense kinda complicates matters. Thoughts? Insults? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DeMarco Murray 29 Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 QB-McNabb RB-Westbrook ... Portis if healthy WR-Owens WR-Plaxico TE-Witten and Cooley LT-Samuels LG-Andrews C-Gurode RG-Thomas RT-Runyan DE-Strahan DE-Cole DT-Ferguson DT-Robbins .. but really a crap shoot OLB-Ware MLB-Pierce OLB-Washington CB-Newman CB-Sheppard FS-Dawkins SS-Roy K-Akers P-McBriar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Come on ZLT, off with the glasses, then try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted September 1, 2007 Author Share Posted September 1, 2007 Come on ZLT, off with the glasses, then try again. You're quite welcome to make your own roster. I'm sure every fan will favor their team to some extent, but it strikes me as an extremely reasonable roster on the offensive side of the ball. Could Glenn and Owens step in at the WR spots without much of a dropoff (save for perhaps locker room drama?). Sure. Like I said, some choices are tight, some aren't. I'm sure Giants fans will be whining about Shockey, but the NFC East has probably the deepest, most talented TE corps in the league, and I'm quite comfortable ranking Cooley and Witten ahead of him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremiah_Johnson Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 QB-McNabb if he can stay healthy, if not, Romo sits to pee RB-Westbrook WR-Owens WR-Moss (if he can stay healthy) TE-Shockey and Witten LT-Samuels LG-Andrews C-Gurode RG-Davis RT-Runyan DE-Strahan DE-Cole DT-Ferguson DT-Robbins OLB-Ware MLB-Pierce OLB-Washington CB-Newman CB-Sheppard FS-Dawkins SS-Roy K-Akers P-McBriar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNabbOwnsFedEx Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Come on, 6 of the 10 starters you named are Redskins. You gave the team with the worst offense in the division the most starters. Doesn't make sense. Jackson and Gurode are both better centers than Rabach, Snee is a better LG than Randy Thomas Solid picks on your team: Samuels Cooley Moss IMO QB - McNabb RB - Westbrook WR - TO WR - Moss TE - Shockey TE - Cooley LT - Samuels LG - Snee C - J. Jackson/Gurode RG - Andrews RT - Runyan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted September 1, 2007 Author Share Posted September 1, 2007 Come on, 6 of the 10 starters you named are Redskins. You gave the team with the worst offense in the division the most starters. Doesn't make sense. We had injuries, poor QB play, and no WR depth last season. Depth has absolutely no impact on an all NFC East roster, while it has a huge impact on the performance of a team during regular season play. Is that not a fair point? Jackson and Gurode are both better centers than Rabach, Snee is a better LG than Randy Thomas I disagree. I think they are all fairly close in talent however. Solid picks on your team: Samuels Cooley Moss IMO QB - McNabb RB - Westbrook WR - TO WR - Moss TE - Shockey TE - Cooley LT - Samuels LG - Snee C - J. Jackson/Gurode RG - Andrews RT - Runyan Westbrook simply isn't going to be my preferred first choice for RB due to his inability to pound it up in the interior of the offensive line. I also think Witten is a more consistent player than Shockey. I think some of the concern is over the offensive line. The Redskins have generally been accepted as having one of the league's best offensive lines, so this shouldn't be a huge shock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AmishGangsta Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 QB-McNabb RB-Portis, Westbrook 3rd down back - I like how you guys knock Portis for his durability, however, Westbrook has had just as many injuries if not more. :laugh: WR-Reggie Brown - sorry, I couldn't have Mcnabb and Owens on the same team, again. WR-Moss Comes through in big time situations TE-Shockey, Cooley - I like these two TEs better than Witten - he just seems more like a possession guy, Shockey and Cooley can make you pay after the catch. LT-Samuels LG-Andrews C- I don't know enough about the centers, or how to measure players at the position. RG-Thomas RT-Runyan DE-Umenyiora (14.5 sacks two years ago). DE-Cole (62 Tackles - impressive) & you know, as bad as people make Andre Carter out to be, he wasn't too far behind him w/ 56 tackles 6 sacks DT-Ferguson DT-Robbins or Griff Flip a coin... OLB-Ware MLB-Fletcher Can't argue with the stats - he has more tackles than ANYBODY over the last 5 years, and he's shown no sign of slowing down - the loss of Pierce might be a blessing in disguise OLB-Washington CB-Newman CB-Sheppard This is a tremendous safety duo, the rest of the NFC East just doesn't know it yet FS-Taylor SS-Landry K-Akers P-McBriar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM916 Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 QB- Campbell RB- Portis RB- Betts LT- Samuels LG- Kendall C- Rabach RG- Thomas RT- Jansen TE- Cooley TE- Yoder WR- Moss WR- Randel El WR- Lloyd I always remove all division rival players from my fantasy draft board so here's what I've got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremiah_Johnson Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 QB- CampbellRB- Portis RB- Betts LT- Samuels LG- Kendall C- Rabach RG- Thomas RT- Jansen TE- Cooley TE- Yoder WR- Moss WR- Randel El WR- Lloyd I always remove all division rival players from my fantasy draft board so here's what I've got. Dude, that team would be lucky to win 6 games !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWinzit Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 Why is Cornelius Griffin not getting more love at DT?:whoknows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 You're quite welcome to make your own roster. I'm sure every fan will favor their team to some extent, but it strikes me as an extremely reasonable roster on the offensive side of the ball. Could Glenn and Owens step in at the WR spots without much of a dropoff (save for perhaps locker room drama?). Sure. Like I said, some choices are tight, some aren't. I'm sure Giants fans will be whining about Shockey, but the NFC East has probably the deepest, most talented TE corps in the league, and I'm quite comfortable ranking Cooley and Witten ahead of him. It's T.O. over Moss without even thinking, and Glenn and Moss are then a toss up. Raymer isnt better than Gurode. Cooley and Witten are a toss up too, I'll agree on that. And as much as it pains me to say, right now, with the uncertain status of Portis, Westbrook is the top RB in the NFCE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted September 1, 2007 Author Share Posted September 1, 2007 It's T.O. over Moss without even thinking, and Glenn and Moss are then a toss up.Raymer isnt better than Gurode. Cooley and Witten are a toss up too, I'll agree on that. And as much as it pains me to say, right now, with the uncertain status of Portis, Westbrook is the top RB in the NFCE. I wouldn't have T.O. on my roster period. Regardless of how they might be ranked. Once I dumped T.O., Moss was my small/quick guy, and Plexiglass became my bigger WR. So as you can see, while you might disagree and put together your own roster that is perfectly acceptable, there's really nothing wrong with my lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted September 1, 2007 Share Posted September 1, 2007 I wouldn't have T.O. on my roster period. Regardless of how they might be ranked. Once I dumped T.O., Moss was my small/quick guy, and Plexiglass became my bigger WR. So as you can see, while you might disagree and put together your own roster that is perfectly acceptable, there's really nothing wrong with my lineup. If thats your reasoning, I absolutely have no problem with it. But talent alone, Owens is the best in the NFCE. And it's not close. In any event, I can't fault you for not wanting him on "your" roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted September 1, 2007 Author Share Posted September 1, 2007 If thats your reasoning, I absolutely have no problem with it.But talent alone, Owens is the best in the NFCE. And it's not close. In any event, I can't fault you for not wanting him on "your" roster. Yeah, that's basically it. I'd agree that Owens is the most talented receiver in the NFC East. My position is simply that given the fact that there are many talented receiver in the division, and that I can put together an excellent duo without him, I'm going to avoid the drama and chemistry issues that might arise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsFTW Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Are we going to award points like in FF and have a winner at the end of the year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eli to Burress Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 QB-McNabb. By default. Everyone else is young. I personally think he gets too much credit in Philly. Westbrook is the real key to that offense. RB-Westbrook. The only other back that carried his team like Westbrook was Tiki. Westbrook is easily the Eagles MVP. WR-Owens WR-Plaxico TE-Shockey and Witten LT-Samuels LG-Andrews C-Gurode RG-Snee RT-Runyan DE-Strahan DE-Osi DT-Ferguson DT-Robbins OLB-Ware MLB-Pierce OLB-Washington CB-Newman CB-Sheppard FS-Dawkins SS-Williams for now. K-Akers is the only proven kicker in the division. P-McBriar may be the best in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedlamVR Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 QB-McNabb. Everyone else IS young but this has to be his last year at the tops he is injury prone and the love is wearing thin in the city of brotherly love. RB-Portis .In 2005 Portis put the team on his shoulders and carried it to the second round of the playoffs . One injury effected year and he is done? Westbrook has just as bad an injury threat, he has never played a full 16 game season and has broken 1000 yards rushing once in his carear . Westbrook is extremly well suited to his role in Philly but lets not kid oursleves here anywhere else he is nothing more than a 3rd down back. The only other back who should be mentioned here is Tiki but he retired . WR-Owens : For his entire career he has been overated but is simply the best WR in the NFCE at this point. He makes the QBs around him better WR-Moss is inconsistant but has produced more than Plaxico and would be interesting to see with another legitimate target. TE-Cooley and Witten : Shockey is close but taking him would be name recognition only . Cooley has been just as productive and would have been a probowl candidate in 2004 had he been actually listed as a TE rather than HB. LT-Samuels LG-Andrews C-Gurode or Jackson or Rabach (the Redskins C ...not Raymer) RG-Thomas, seriously if he was not in B&G he would be hailed as one of the best RGs in the game . Snee is close but Barber is a top back in the NFL which makes the line look better. RT-Runyan or Jansen (I have seen so many lists with just samuels...the Skins offensive line allowed a career back up who has been averaging 2.4 yards per carry this summer to gash teams last year and gave up just 19 sacks) DE-Strahan or Cole ...Strahan is on his way out but has had an outstanding career Cole is the best of the rest as long as you dont expect him to produce in december. DE-Osi DT-Patterson came on well last year. DT-Robbins OLB-Ware MLB-Fletcher over Pierce both still seems like a career over achiver but Fletcher has shown the goods longer. OLB-Washington/Spikes/McIntosh/Adoyele/ - essentially by default although I would be tempted to play Ware in a 4-3 as SLB utilising him as a stand up DE on passing downs and then looking for a WLB there are alot of unknowns and it would be a toss up between McIntosh and Spikes. Potential or production. CB-Newman : Possibly the best CB in the NFCE right now pre injury CB-Springs : If healthy can be a top CB health is an issue but doesn't suffer from the inconsistancies of Brown or Shepard FS-Dawkins ... for what he has done I would put Taylor here but he has firstly not shown enough to diplace Dawkins and secondly hasn't played exlusivly in the FS spot SS-Williams for now but he is becomming more and more like Adam Archuletta, an undersized LB rather than a safety ...I cannot put Landry here becasue although he looks like a dynamic playmaker he is a rookie.. K-Akers is the only proven kicker in the division. P-McBriar may be the best in the NFL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siven Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 It's T.O. over Moss without even thinking, and Glenn and Moss are then a toss up.Raymer isnt better than Gurode. Cooley and Witten are a toss up too, I'll agree on that. And as much as it pains me to say, right now, with the uncertain status of Portis, Westbrook is the top RB in the NFCE. Come on, I agree that TO over Moss without thinking. But Glenn and Moss is a toss up? Glenn is finished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasSucks19922010 Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 QB-McNabb(when healthy) RB-Portis(when healthy) WR-Moss(when healthy) WR-Owens TE-Cooley/Witten LT-Samuels LG-Andrews C-I really dont know who the other Cs in the NFC East are except Rabach RG-Thomas RT-Runyan/Jansen..both consistent but i really cant decide DE-Umeniyora DT-Griffin DT-Ferguson DE-Strahan OLB-Ware MLB-Fletcher OLB-Washington CB-Newman S-Dawkins (hopefully Landry takes his spot in the next few years) S-Taylor CB-Springs(when healthy) P-McBriar K-Akers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisFul Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 I always remove all division rival players from my fantasy draft board so here's what I've got. No offense, but you must not win many fantasy leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeHateMe Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Come on, I agree that TO over Moss without thinking. But Glenn and Moss is a toss up? Glenn is finished. 70 receptions, 1,047 yards and 6 TDs is finished? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
illone Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 :laugh: at everyone qualifying their choices by putting (when healthy) after Portis, and not after Westbrook. Too funny. Portis is the best RB in the division, without question. Anyone who picks Westbrook over him is either a homer, or just doesn't like Portis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warhead36 Posted September 2, 2007 Share Posted September 2, 2007 Assuming everyone stays 100% healthy... QB-Donovan McNabb RB-Clinton Portis FB-Mike Sellers WR-Terrell Owens WR-Santana Moss TE-Jeremy Shockey LT-Chris Samuels LG-Shawn Andrews C-Andre Gurode RG-Randy Thomas RT-Flozell Adams DE-Osi Umenyiora DT-Jason Ferguson DT-Cornelius Griffin DE-Trent Cole OLB-Demarcus Ware MLB-London Fletcher OLB-Marcus Washington CB-Terrence Newman CB-Shawn Springs FS-Brian Dawkins SS-Sean Taylor K-David Akers P-Matt McBriar KR-Antwan Randle El Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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