stwasm Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=ncf&id=2983868 University of Hawaii athletic officials on Monday said they will look into allegations raised by a former receiver, including the claim that school officials and players manipulated NCAA-mandated drug tests. Ian Sample, who recently published a book chronicling the 2006 season entitled, "Once A Warrior," released unpublished material on his blog about excessive drinking, widespread use of marijuana, sex with groupies and rigged drug tests. Sample, who now plays professional football in Japan, wrote that he's "convinced the 'random' tests are not random at all." "The higher ups definitely know what they are doing when they decide who will be tested," he wrote. "However, getting tested doesn't necessarily mean getting caught, every once in a while a player will side step a positive test result by flushing out their system (the real smokers know where to go to get a cleansing elixir)." John McNamara, Hawaii's associate athletic director, said officials are reviewing and evaluating the content of the book and the Internet postings. "Additionally, we will meet with the necessary parties and determine what steps, if any, need to be taken," he said in an e-mail. He did not say when the meeting would take place. Warriors coach June Jones emphatically denied Sample's claim about the drug testing, calling it a "lie." "We don't have anything to do with it," he said, adding that the NCAA supplies a random lists of players, not the school. "We have the greatest kids in the world at this campus," he said. "And it's just a shame that someone kind of threw them under the bus. It's the way that life is now. With the Internet, anybody can say anything they want." Sample told the Honolulu Star-Bulletin that Jones is entitled to his opinion. "But when he talks about throwing people under the bus, if he gets really bored one day and goes to the public library and reads the book, he might have some different thoughts," he said. Sample, who had 54 catches for 690 yards and 10 touchdowns for Hawaii last season, wrote that when one of the random urine tests were conducted, "it's amazing that none of our valuable players are ever selected, especially the ones known for smoking weed. "The players that are selected to go [urinate] in a cup are the ones less valuable and the ones that have become a nuisance to coaches or the team." Sample's omitted passages were posted on his blog at myspace.com. George Engebretson, of Watermark Publishing in Honolulu, said he decided not to include Sample's more controversial material in the book, even though it may have resulted in more sales. "I don't think it really contributed to the story that Ian and I together wanted to tell," he said. Sample wrote that marijuana was the drug of choice for the Warriors, but said he believed some players used steroids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinInsite Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 If football had the same drug testing and punishment as the tour de france, there wouldn't be enough players left to fill the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Last year Hawaii had one valuable player on a 90 person team. Odds really arent that great that he would be selected in a random selection process. Who gives a **** about smoking weed anyways? Its not a performance enhancing drug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsHokieFan Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 No surprise there A close friend of mine walked on to a D-1 football team during the spring of 2004, and somehow during that spring ended up on the "random" drug testing list. He got caught having an illegal substance in his system and suspended a year and any hopes he had were all gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jnhay Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 No surprise thereA close friend of mine walked on to a D-1 football team during the spring of 2004, and somehow during that spring ended up on the "random" drug testing list. He got caught having an illegal substance in his system and suspended a year and any hopes he had were all gone That's too bad, but he should have known better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jthor99 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I'm sorry, but kids in College Football smoke weed this is obviously no secret. There aren't ways around the NCAA testing tho trust me i was playing college baseball and they came around luckily our coach found out (somehow because usually they just show up) that they were coming the next day. Luckily, for a good buddy of mine on teh team freaked out beacuse he smoked he told the Coach the truth and somehow the Coach got him out of it because he was injured...This is no joke, trust me there our ways around it but its tough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 It is pretty idiotic to test for pot in an athlete... than again, it's pretty idiotic that marijuana is illegal in the first place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Die Hard Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 It is pretty idiotic to test for pot in an athlete... than again, it's pretty idiotic that marijuana is illegal in the first place. That's not really the issue though. The fact is.... marijuana is considered an illegal substance in the NFL and the NCAA. Having been around the football scene myself..... I know a lot of players smoke weed. What irks me is that we also know that ALMOST ALL of them are getting away with it..... which means there are methods to circumvent testing. And obviously, they're pretty damn effective So I don't put much stock in test results.... because it's so damn obvious that so many are getting around it. Only 5-10 idiots each year that get caught. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 That's not really the issue though. The fact is.... marijuana is considered an illegal substance in the NFL and the NCAA. Having been around the football scene myself..... I know a lot of players smoke weed. What irks me is that we also know that ALMOST ALL of them are getting away with it..... which means there are methods to circumvent testing. And obviously, they're pretty damn effective So I don't put much stock in test results.... because it's so damn obvious that so many are getting around it. Only 5-10 idiots each year that get caught. What's not the issue, legality? If it was legal, it wouldn't be tested for as it isn't a performance enhancing substance. So I think it is the issue at the very core of the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 What's not the issue, legality? If it was legal, it wouldn't be tested for as it isn't a performance enhancing substance. So I think it is the issue at the very core of the story. No, the issue is that the player knows that players are indulging in illegal substances.... well-known players.... and yet they aren't getting caught. He mentioned weed and steroids as both being examples. The other issue is that the players that are being selected aren't completely random. Again, this is another way to circumvent the rules for the players that are indulging in illegal substances. This isn't a "should weed continue to be illegal because it doesn't enhance performance" thread. Right now, it is illegal. And the problem is kids are indulging in illegal behavoir and not being caught. And that's a legitimate concern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 No, the issue is that the player knows that players are indulging in illegal substances.... well-known players.... and yet they aren't getting caught. He mentioned weed and steroids as both being examples.The other issue is that the players that are being selected aren't completely random. Again, this is another way to circumvent the rules for the players that are indulging in illegal substances. This isn't a "should weed continue to be illegal because it doesn't enhance performance" thread. Right now, it is illegal. And the problem is kids are indulging in illegal behavoir and not being caught. And that's a legitimate concern. Okay, I misunderstood you. You're right, its a shame that some kids are basically allowed to buck the system just because they are better athletes. Hardly a new story, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Die Hard Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Okay, I misunderstood you. You're right, its a shame that some kids are basically allowed to buck the system just because they are better athletes. Hardly a new story, though. Dude... what's a new story nowadays anyways You have to look for China's posts for those :laugh: For me, the story isn't that schools are bucking the system to accomodate better athletes. It's the fact that it's so obvious there are ways to circumvent drug testing. Why bother with the charade if it's truly that easy to get around the testing? It makes it so I just roll my eyes when I see of a 4-game suspension for violating the drug policy... not so much that the NFL is doing a good job... but because the player must be a complete idiot to actually get caught. And it's disturbing to me to know so many people are cheating on these tests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stophovr6 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I smoked weed with a D1 basketball player during the season. He didn't seem too worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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