rincewind Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Really? Do you give your winning lottery tickets away too? Because I would love to have one, if you ever win. Really? After you fought & clawed your way through a scrum to get that ball, you'd give it to the Hall of Fame? That's going right in the safe, until a week later when I sell it. Congrats to Bonds. I don't like you, but I'm glad I got to see the moment last night..... Guess I just like history more than the quick buck... unlike some people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tizzod Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 I'm glad the circus is over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Guess I just like history more than the quick buck... unlike some people. Heck sell it to the Hall, that way you can have your cake and eat it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vinnick Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 I think its safe to say that Bonds is not a "good" guy, but has had a few humane moments. Whether or not something comes out and is proven about him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Heck sell it to the Hall, that way you can have your cake and eat it too. Do they buy memrobilia? I figured they only took donations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Do they buy memrobilia? I figured they only took donations. Depends upon how badly Cooperstown wants a ball with a big * on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted August 8, 2007 Author Share Posted August 8, 2007 Do they buy memrobilia? I figured they only took donations. I think they offer some sort of monetary compensation, but its nowhere near market value. I'm not sure though, that's just going from memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenterSnap Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 he was good early on but not that good. most of his homeruns came late which leads me to believe roids were a big part of this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GibbsFactor Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Greatest ball player of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMetal Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Whatever. Baseball has all the credibility of wrestling now. It's a joke. I used to be a fan but this crap with Bonds has literally driven me away from the game. It's utterly disgraceful. I honestly think he should have been intentionally walked for every at-bat until he was forced to retire. He's a vile, reprehensible piece of garbage, right down there with Michael Irvin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panel Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Greatest ball player of all time. 100% agreed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tizzod Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Greatest ball player of all time. Now that's just funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeanCollins Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Guess I just like history more than the quick buck... unlike some people. yea right, 1.5 million reasons why you'd capitulate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spaceman Spiff Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Greatest ball player of all time. We'll wait to see what A-rod and Pujols have to say about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Evil Genius Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Pujols, Spiff? Really? A-ROD maybe. I suspect though that his #'s will start dropping...I see him barely breaking 700. But that's just my .02 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted August 8, 2007 Author Share Posted August 8, 2007 he was good early on but not that good. most of his homeruns came late which leads me to believe roids were a big part of this :laugh: Now that's just a ridiculously uninformed statement. Bonds was a first ballot hall of famer before the controversy started in 99 - he had 500 home runs, was the *only* member of the 500 HR/500 steal club (and still is), and had won something like 4 or 5 MVPs and 8 gold gloves, and was a perrennial all-star. TO say he wasn't that good early on in his career is pure idiocy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 yea right, 1.5 million reasons why you'd capitulate. Early estimates have the ball priced at 300,000 to 400,000 dollars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EersSkins05 Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 PS: Go A-Rod. It slays me that people automatically assume that A-Rod is clean. As if a 50-home-run-a-year shortstop is nothing to second-guess. And let me say this for Bonds: It's not possible to cheat when no one cares. Yes, he probably did take "the clear" which was undetectable to steroid testing. But explain to me how this matters when NO ONE WAS TESTING FOR ANY KIND OF STEROID UNTIL LAST YEAR. He's a fish in a huge pond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Early estimates have the ball priced at 300,000 to 400,000 dollars. damn, McGwire's 70th went for over 3mil time's have changed :laugh: 400,000 is nice, but doesn't go that far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLRedskins Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 I'll go with the last one football is only a month away :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted August 8, 2007 Author Share Posted August 8, 2007 It slays me that people automatically assume that A-Rod is clean. As if a 50-home-run-a-year shortstop is nothing to second-guess. :applause: :applause: Exactly. He's not exactly a small dude, either...which is the standard a lot of people have for suspecting Bonds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rincewind Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 My money is on Brady Anderson coming back and breaking the record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kosher Ham Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 Wonder why no one seems to say Brandon Lloyd is juiced up ? He looks twice the size he was a year ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StillUnknown Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 My money is on Brady Anderson coming back and breaking the record. i got my money on Todd Helton who resides in the home run friendly confines of colorado, yet his home-run totals have fallen of greatly since the new steroid policy Wonder why no one seems to say Brandon Lloyd is juiced up ? He looks twice the size he was a year ago. because he wears the burgundy and gold :laugh: . if he were to test positive, i don't think anyone would be surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DjTj Posted August 8, 2007 Share Posted August 8, 2007 I'm pretty sure Bonds wouldn't have broken the record without taking the cream and the clear, but I guess I'm in the camp that thinks that baseball dropped the ball on this and that we shouldn't single out one player. I guess it's just hard for me to get very angry at Bonds, especially not to the point where I would root for A-Rod. Bonds is one of the best players of all time. In an era where many players were juicing, he rose above the rest. Steroids in a way is a weird form of cheating because it's not like he paid off pitchers to lob him easy pitches or he used an aluminum bat - he still had to see the ball and hit the ball to earn every one of those home runs. There's no easy way to say that a certain number of home runs shouldn't have counted or anything like that. You can't say that everything Barry accomplished was due to steroids - he wasn't some nobody that only got where he is by juicing; he's a great player who was enhanced by drugs that he took. In any case, I doubt this record will stand for 30 years like Hank's did. Even without steroids, supplements and weight training and all sorts of medical treatment has advanced so much in recent years that I think we'll see many more athletes playing into their 40's. It's just a matter of time before someone hits 800. I hope it isn't A-Rod ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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