flexxskins Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Maybe you should stop "giggling like a girl" and your precious feelings will be okay. My precious feelings? Don't know where you're trying to take this, but the whole "giggling like a girl" thing was a way of expressing how funny TK's joke was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terpfan Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 LOL, you're explanation may not inspire confidence, but I do agree with your general point. There shouldnt be much need for Collins anymore. Keep Campbell, Brunell, and Bramlet, and stash Palmer on the PS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Awgustlab Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Wow, KoolBlue and zskins are testy! LOL, too funny. guys!! Penalty on you two!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 It was a joke dude, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySkin21 Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Man....to even think Blaylock was a QB is crazy. I've never heard anything like this before in my entire life..the things taht come out of some people mouths' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbuzz1962 Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Can I ask you an honest question? Where were you last season when this was discusessed oh let's say about 5,000 times?? He was brought in because he knew Saunders system well. He simply is a quarterback coach who in an emergency situation could play a down or two, but not a viable replacement for JC. I expect he will be released this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freeseantaylor2k6 Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 The spectacle that Collins put on last preseason against the Bengals may have been one of the worst performances I have ever seen by a pro quarterback. At least with a player like Casey Bramlet or Hollenbech there is an upside in potentially finding a long term backup. Now that JC, Brunell and the rest of the QB's have had a year to acclimate themselves to Saunders' scheme, I don't see any reason whatsoever to keep him around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSO Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Blaylock musta been an awesome pick up if he can QB too! I love our FO! Sweet! :point2sky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchie Posted July 30, 2007 Author Share Posted July 30, 2007 Can I ask you an honest question? Where were you last season when this was discusessed oh let's say about 5,000 times?? He was brought in because he knew Saunders system well. He simply is a quarterback coach who in an emergency situation could play a down or two, but not a viable replacement for JC. I expect he will be released this season. i know why he was bought in. my point is that he should be released. seems we are in agreement. SORRY for accidently superimposing the names. Who cares you guys know what i meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4skins23 Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Why keep Collins or Brunell? I'd keep J.C. as the starter,or maybe open up the competition with all of the younger ones. Bramlet,Palmer,J.C. and place them accordingly. Brunnell is just as new to this system as the younger guys, so what will he offer them? Collins may know the system but he lacks experience. He can have all the training but without experience, he's worthless. It a poor excuse to throw away money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praise_gibbs Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Why keep Collins or Brunell? I'd keep J.C. as the starter,or maybe open up the competition with all of the younger ones. Bramlet,Palmer,J.C. and place them accordingly. Brunnell is just as new to this system as the younger guys, so what will he offer them? Collins may know the system but he lacks experience. He can have all the training but without experience, he's worthless. It a poor excuse to throw away money. So, what do you do if JC stinks up the joint? You are stuck with not one QB with experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revallenjr Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 We have Campbell, Brunnell, the Blaylock or whatever guy and lil' Palmer.What value does he add? Or, better stated, what is a logical argument of keeping him? Does get paid virtually nothing and does some administrative role helping the other QBs? I think those four are enough. Brunnell - backup, the europe dude 2nd backup. and Palmer just stays along side Campbell until he develops into a #2 to replace Brunnell and Blaylock. Palmer may end up being a good #2 in five or so years. Once Brunnell is retired..... But please, why is Collins on the team? Am I totally missing something? I think your missing something if you think Brunnell is going to retire in Five or so years. Please, he is super smart, and with his new role as back-up, he could play another 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4skins23 Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 So, what do you do if JC stinks up the joint? You are stuck with not one QB with experience. He has experience, but apperently not with the Saunders system. He only knows as much as the other guys. (J.C.....etc...) I think it would be good and a little relieving to have a few competent Qbs backing each other up. Definitely a bright future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pjfootballer Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Frankly, I thought Palmer was a waste of a draft pick. He had issues coming out of college, not living up to his potential, and I've read that his training camp play wasn't very promising.We used our second 6th rounder (obtained for Archuleta) to pick Palmer up when we probably should have gone for Ben Patrick (TE Delaware) who was picked up before we could get him with our 7th round pick. So, in the 7th, we had to settle for Tyler Ecker (TE Michigan) instead -- and Patrick was rated as a much better TE. If we'd picked up Patrick with our second 6th rounder, we then could have used our 7th rounder pick to snag either Abraham Wright (DE Colorado) or --even better-- Keith Jackson (DT Arkansas) who was a two-gapper widebody with potential that St. Louis snapped up. As I said, I wasn't too keen on wasting a pick on Palmer. Let's get real. Palmer isn't going to be playing in the NFL in 2007. Bramlet will probably get the #3 QB, assuming he does well pre-season, and Collins retires. The only thing good that would happen to Palmer is that he gets 'squadded." Palmer's big, strong, and maybe one day he'll have some potential as a backup. If Gibbs & Co. want to keep Palmer on ice for a season, maybe a spot would open up. Right now, I'd take a lot of the journeyman backups already out there over Jordan Palmer. And we never needed the guy in the first place. Yeah, I never understood the need to draft yet another QB. Good post on what we should have done instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peregrine Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Thats definately a theory. Thats about all I can add to that that hasnt been said already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoudMouth12thMan Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 Brunell is no better, in fact worse in my opinion, than Collins. If we had any sense, we'd trade him, BUT (and this is a big but) I don't think Collins and Campbell work as well as Brunell and Campbell. I like Brunell mentoring Campbell. That said, I think he'd be fine if we deal Brunell. Lazor is pretty cool and knows his stuff. Collins know the offense inside and out and is physically as good as Collins. I'd deal Brunell to free cap space if it would in fact clear some space. HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM916 Posted July 30, 2007 Share Posted July 30, 2007 I thought it was already pretty well established that as long as Brunell is healthy, Collins will be gone by the start of the regular season. Right now, we are keeping Collins around because we can for the moment. He is there to teach the younger guys in camp and as an insurance policy should anything happen to Brunell or one of the other backups. Why cut the guy early just for the sake of cutting him? The role of tutor and insurance policy doesn't carry over into the regular season but for now he is still useful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyofan Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 The point is, how much experience did JC have last year prior to starting? Bramlet has been here in the Saunders system as long as JC & Brunell. Collins is really old, I think older than Brunell. Doesn't look too strong either in the pics we are getting. I would make Bramlet #2 with Brunell #3 as a playing coach if need be. Granted there is a difference from NFL Europe and the NFL, large part of it is speed, but it is speed on the offensive line to protect the QB too. Shouldn't be too hard to make the transition from winning the World Bowl/MVP to playing here. Like I said many times there are more than a few that made the transition very well ie: Werner, Delhomme, Johnson, Kitna, three super bowl champions, not too bad of company. And by the way whoever asked about the guy from Europe? He's from Wyoming, I think that's in the States. So, what do you do if JC stinks up the joint? You are stuck with not one QB with experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4skins23 Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 The point is, how much experience did JC have last year prior to starting? Bramlet has been here in the Saunders system as long as JC & Brunell. Collins is really old, I think older than Brunell. Doesn't look too strong either in the pics we are getting. I would make Bramlet #2 with Brunell #3 as a playing coach if need be. Granted there is a difference from NFL Europe and the NFL, large part of it is speed, but it is speed on the offensive line to protect the QB too. Shouldn't be too hard to make the transition from winning the World Bowl/MVP to playing here. Like I said many times there are more than a few that made the transition very well ie: Werner, Delhomme, Johnson, Kitna, three super bowl champions, not too bad of company.And by the way whoever asked about the guy from Europe? He's from Wyoming, I think that's in the States. I like your thinking! I agree 110%. I might take it further and say it training camp was open to competition, Bramlet MAY give J. C. a run for his money at #1. I like both guys, I just want to have the best man win. I believe competition breeds excellence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chump Bailey Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 Collins is more proven than is Casey IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
praise_gibbs Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 The point is, how much experience did JC have last year prior to starting? Bramlet has been here in the Saunders system as long as JC & Brunell. Collins is really old, I think older than Brunell. Doesn't look too strong either in the pics we are getting. I would make Bramlet #2 with Brunell #3 as a playing coach if need be. Granted there is a difference from NFL Europe and the NFL, large part of it is speed, but it is speed on the offensive line to protect the QB too. Shouldn't be too hard to make the transition from winning the World Bowl/MVP to playing here. Like I said many times there are more than a few that made the transition very well ie: Werner, Delhomme, Johnson, Kitna, three super bowl champions, not too bad of company.And by the way whoever asked about the guy from Europe? He's from Wyoming, I think that's in the States. Thanks for bringing up the point that I was trying to make. He wanted to get rid of Brunell AND Collins and have just 'rook's basically backing up JC. Not a smart move. I would have JC first, MB second, and Bramlet third. If JC goes down in a game.. I would rather MB be able to jump in and finish the game if needed. Should JC be down for an extended period.. I would like to see Bramlet get the start. However, that couldn't happen if Bramlet is number 2 on the depth chart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taylorcoreskin Posted July 31, 2007 Share Posted July 31, 2007 When I read this thread title, I think to myself, "why is Mark Brunell on this team?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gortiz Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Okay, this is my last bump ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbnva Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Okay, this is my last bump ... why did you in the first place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceviker Posted December 27, 2007 Share Posted December 27, 2007 Okay, this is my last bump ... Why stop now :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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