Jofizz Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 It's already being discussed in ATN. Come on now, this is ES, where the news stories are on here before they break anywhere else :laugh:. http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203299 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 let him kill dogs???? So dogs should have no right to live and not be bred to fight or kill?? It was a joke, babe. :laugh: I have to say in all seriousness - thank you little 6 lb. 8 oz. baby Jesus for getting him what he deserves. Sounded like he was going to get off scott free. A federal indictment has to come with at least an 8 game suspension, I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 It's already being discussed in ATN. Come on now, this is ES, where the news stories are on here before they break anywhere else :laugh:.http://www.extremeskins.com/forums/showthread.php?t=203299 Maybe the Tailgate can add a different flavor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IONTOP Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 let him kill dogs???? So dogs should have no right to live and not be bred to fight or kill?? No, I just meant that he hasn't been CHARGED with anything yet... I mean he's only been indicted by a grand jury... I mean don't villify the man until you've got the "beyond a shadow of a doubt".... I actually had a lengthy conversation with a dog, and here's what I learned... Sandpaper is not smooth A roof is over my head Given the choice of being a chiuaua in Beverly Hills or a Pitt Bull in a rough inner city neighborhood who has to kill his own to survive, the dog adamantly said: "Rough" Dogs would rather be in that situation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corcaigh Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 If he was indicted they have something. The Feds are usually very picky about that. I think their conviction rate is over 95%. Plus I think they would be extra careful knowing the type of media frenzy this will create. They wouldn't do this unless they have enough dirt to fill his grave. There are very specific statements in the indictment, including actions and dates. Mr Vick is in some trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrockster21 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 This won't go to to trial for another year. He plays this year..... With his money, it may be 2 years. I'm sure his counsel will try to schedule it around the season too. Not in the new NFL era under Kaiser Goodell. A federal indictment is enough for a suspension, I'm sure. Maybe Vick will get off easy because he's the face of the NFL? I dunno...but I am willing to bet he misses some games this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 No, I just meant that he hasn't been CHARGED with anything yet... I mean he's only been indicted by a grand jury... I mean don't villify the man until you've got the "beyond a shadow of a doubt".... True but to even be able to get indicted on this type of charge you have to have some good evidence. It looks like this could be the end of the Mike Vick we know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jofizz Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Maybe the Tailgate can add a different flavor. That's actually not a bad idea. Sometimes the stadium crowd is unbearable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_33 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Anyone know where I can get tickets to the Cons (mean machine) vs the Guards game in the next couple of years? Damn......The cons are in trouble....They still don't have a QB...HAHAHAHA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 As the cliche goes, you could indict a ham sandwhich if you chose. This may be a precursor to a punishable offense, but as of now, Vick's standing with the NFL shouldn't change. Goodell has suspened others without so much as an indictment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PleaseBlitz Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Also, dealing Schaub looks galactically dumb right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodiesel#44 Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 He's innocent I tells ya! Gerald Poindexter explains, "If the collar doesn't fit, you must acquit." :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: good one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spartacus87 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Not in the new NFL era under Kaiser Goodell. A federal indictment is enough for a suspension, I'm sure. Maybe Vick will get off easy because he's the face of the NFL? I dunno...but I am willing to bet he misses some games this year. Vick is hardly the "face of the NFL." This ain't Peyton, LT, or Tom Brady, this is a guy that pretty much everyone has been suspecting would face some serious heat for this for awhile now and has more than a few other minor problems and criticisms in recent times. Vick's nowhere near safe.Like others have said though, this doesn't mean too much just yet. I'm not sure Goodell will do anything yet, I think he'll wait until things become more concrete. I think the Falcons are going to start looking around at options though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodiesel#44 Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 Not in the new NFL era under Kaiser Goodell. A federal indictment is enough for a suspension, I'm sure. Maybe Vick will get off easy because he's the face of the NFL? I dunno...but I am willing to bet he misses some games this year. Not sure Vick is the face of the NFL, but Ron Mexico IS the face of genital herpes. Wonder how the Federal Prison System is going to deal with that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsn24 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Not sure Vick is the face of the NFL, but Ron Mexico IS the face of genital herpes. Wonder how the Federal Prison System is going to deal with that? My first post in forever, but that was hilarious:cheers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Those charges... I mean, technically he could be facing 20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killerbo Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm POSTED 5:29 p.m. EDT; LAST UPDATED 6:38 p.m. EDT, July 17, 2007 VICK IS INDICTED Falcons quarterback Mike Vick has been indicted on multiple charges by a federal grand jury in Virginia. The charges are, per ESPN.com (which not long ago declared Vick was unlikely to be indicted), "conspiracy to travel in interstate commerce in aid of unlawful activities and to sponsor a dog in animal fighting venture." Three others were indicted as well -- Purnell Peace, Quanis Phillips and Tony Taylor. Phillips' name appeared as a contact person on Vick's K-9 Kennels web site. The indictment is available on the web site of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. A press release regarding the charges is available here. There is only one count, for now -- conspiracy. In order to be guilty of conspiracy, the government doesn't have to prove that the defendants committed the underlying illegal acts, but only that they intended to do so, and that they accomplished one or more overt acts in order to reach their goals. Click link above to read rest of article But the most damning accusation.... The most graphic misconduct allegedly occurred not long before the first search of the property. According to paragraph 83 of the indictment, Vick, Peace, and Phillips executed in April 2007 approximately eight dogs that did not perform well in "testing" sessions, by "hanging, drowning, and slamming at least one dog's body to the ground." In other words, in the same month in which Vick declared that he never goes to his Surry County property, and the same month in which he sat face-to-face with the Commissioner, Vick had (according to the indictment) participated in the killing of as many as eight dogs deemed unfit for fighting. So what next? After digesting this information, the NFL and the Falcons will have some tough decisions to make. And we think that both organizations will soon be facing strenuous pressure from animal rights groups to take swift and decisive action against Mr. Vick All I can say is wow....:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 Someone should be "inidited" on spelling charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dreamshatterer Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 He is no longer the face of the NFL. One of the new face of the NFL has a crap load of endorsment deals and his been on SNL. Peyton Manning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koolblue13 Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 It was a joke, babe. :laugh:I have to say in all seriousness - thank you little 6 lb. 8 oz. baby Jesus for getting him what he deserves. Sounded like he was going to get off scott free. A federal indictment has to come with at least an 8 game suspension, I would think. I like the christmas jesus.What a scumbag, bye bye Vick. I thought he was going to slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redshu Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 I'm watching this right now on ESPN, but they have it worded in the indictment the he and another man once wet a dog down and electrocuted it. In another incident, he and this same accomplice destroyed 8 dogs by various methods, hanging, drowning, and slamming the dogs body into the ground. For the love of God, I hope this man ends up in jail giving herpes to dudes that don't give a ****. Can you imagine? What type of sociopathic piece of **** does this to an animal knows nothing of cruelty and that asks for nothing in return but your approval. I hope he reaps the whirlwind. Reap it Vick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodiesel#44 Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 Portis, PLEASE, just don't say anything!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowplay Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 So what song should teams play at their home stadiums to get into his head? Assuming that he plays another game in the league? The obvious one that comes to mind is "Who Let the Dogs Out?" right?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooper Posted July 17, 2007 Share Posted July 17, 2007 It's okay. I'm sure Joey Harrington will light it up for the Falcons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turbodiesel#44 Posted July 17, 2007 Author Share Posted July 17, 2007 Someone should be "inidited" on spelling charges. You are correct sir, and I offer my apologies with the correction! HTTR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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