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wtf is this about? i'm sure someone on here knows the full story. its seems the US wants to go through its won process before deportation. thoughts?

Posada Carriles: terrorist who killed 73 in plane bombing walks free

By Bill Van Auken

20 April 2007

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“I vowed that if you harbor a terrorist you’re equally as guilty as the terrorist. That’s a doctrine. In order for this country to be credible, when the President says something, he must mean it.” President George W. Bush, April 10, 2007, American Legion Post 177, Fairfax, Virginia.

“Part of our doctrine is if you harbor a terrorist, you’re equally as guilty as the terrorists.” President Bush, April 5, 2007, Fort Irwin, California.

A cell door in New Mexico swung open Thursday and Luis Posada Carriles—a man wanted for an act of terrorist mass murder—went free, making his way to Miami escorted by US Marshals and his lawyer.

So much for the Bush doctrine. Washington is now openly harboring a terrorist who murdered 73 people by organizing the planting of a bomb on a civilian airliner in 1976. The Cuban passenger plane, which had originated in Venezuela, blew up over the Caribbean waters of Barbados. At that time, it constituted the most deadly act of terrorism ever carried out in the Western Hemisphere.

Among the dead were all 24 members of the Cuban fencing team, many of them teenagers, who had just won the 1975 Central American-Caribbean championship. Also killed were several Guyanese medical students, aged 18 and 19.

It is worth remembering these young victims as shock and sorrow is felt throughout the United States over the slaughter of a similar number of students of roughly the same age at Virginia Tech.

The release of Posada Carriles followed a ruling by the US Court of Appeals in New Orleans on Tuesday rejecting a government prosecutor’s motion that the confessed terrorist be kept in prison.

He has been in custody since May of 2005. The court refused to hold him, however, because he is not charged with the crimes of mass murder, terrorism and assassination, but rather with run-of-the-mill immigration offenses: entering the country illegally and lying to US immigration officials.

He is now free on bail, awaiting a May 11 trial on charges of lying to immigration agents. The only penalty for such an offense is deportation.

No country in the world, however, will agree to take Posada Carriles off Washington’s hands, save two. The first is his native Cuba, whose citizens constitute the majority of his victims, and the second is Venezuela, where he became a naturalized citizen and secret policeman, and from which he plotted the 1976 airline bombing.

Venezuela formally demanded that the US extradite the terrorist to face trial for this crime in June of 2005 under existing treaties between the two countries. Since then, the Bush administration has simply ignored the extradition request.

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/apr2007/posa-a20.shtml

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1) The article simply refers to his as a mass-murdering terrorist as if this is a proven fact. It isn't until 2/3 of the way down the article that they mention that he isn't even charged with it.

2) "Walks free" seems partially accurate, but only partially. Apparently, he's being deported (at least, if he shows up. I fail to see how an illegal alien who's being deported can possibly qualify for bail, but that's another matter.), and it looks like the only places he can be deported to are both a lot worse than a US prison.

3) Yeah, I do have trouble figuring out why (if the guy's guilty)Bush doesn't just ship the guy to Cuba or Venezuela. (Or Gitmo). Seems like it'd be cheaper and more efficient.

4) Why does the fact that he's being shipped to Miami (where a terrorist who killed 50 Cubans can be a hero) bother me?

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The blame (if any) should be directed at the courts, but I guess Bush is a more popular target...

IF Bush threw him in Gitmo he would till be condemned, probably by the same people. :laugh:

The Court set him loose and the Court blocked extradition.

http://cbs4.com/topstories/local_story_107193130.html

The aging militant and former CIA operative was ordered deported in 2005. But a federal immigration judge in El Paso ruled that he could not be sent to Venezuela, where he is a naturalized citizen, or his native Cuba.

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Its cheap shot at Bush, but hey thats way they do it. If they can some way some how take a shot at Bush they will. We arent setting the guy free, a court ruled that he was allegable for bail. That is all, he is still going to stand trial from what I understand.

If venezuelas president wasn't such a douche bag to us there probably would be no problem extraditing him to them, but hes a total douche bag and Im glad we are giving him the shaft.

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The blame (if any) should be directed at the courts, but I guess Bush is a more popular target...

IF Bush threw him in Gitmo he would till be condemned, probably by the same people. :laugh:

The Court set him loose and the Court blocked extradition.

http://cbs4.com/topstories/local_story_107193130.html

The aging militant and former CIA operative was ordered deported in 2005. But a federal immigration judge in El Paso ruled that he could not be sent to Venezuela, where he is a naturalized citizen, or his native Cuba.

I used to think you were somewhat reasonable but lately you're making Hannity look like a moderate. Courts don't charge people with crimes - let me know when you figure out what branch of government does. Also we can sit around and play stupid all day and pretend that this is just a criminal matter... but you have to be blind, dumb, or heavily bias to think that the only issue here is what he is charged with. You mentioned Gitmo, why isn't he there? Why did we choose to look the other way for this terrorist? That's what the world is going to see... a nation that rants endlessly about terrorism suddenly with nothing to say and now will to act.

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I used to think you were somewhat reasonable but lately you're making Hannity look like a moderate. Courts don't charge people with crimes - let me know when you figure out what branch of government does. Also we can sit around and play stupid all day and pretend that this is just a criminal matter... but you have to be blind, dumb, or heavily bias to think that the only issue here is what he is charged with. You mentioned Gitmo, why isn't he there? Why did we choose to look the other way for this terrorist? That's what the world is going to see... a nation that rants endlessly about terrorism suddenly with nothing to say and now will to act.

Well my opinion of you isn't rising either :laugh:

Who released him? The court

Who prohibits extradition? The court

I have no problem with the complaints,but Bush is a bit of a stretch.

Perhaps this link will help some of you. ;)

http://www.therazor.org/images/bush_derangement_syndrome-s.jpg

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This guy was arrested by homeland security right after he snuck over the border and they tried to hold him w/o bail

After flying away to Honduras, he arrived in the US in 2005, and was held by US authorities in Texas on the charge of illegal presence on national territory until his release on 19 April 2007,

Release from jail

Luis Posada Carriles was released from jail after paying bond on April 19th 2007. The US Fifth District Court of Appeals in New Orleans rejected a Justice Department request Posada be refused bail for entering the U.S. illegally and he was escorted by Federal agents to Miami where the Cuban community welcomed him as a patriot.[34]

He is to return to Texas on May 11th for trial. Posada must remain under 24-hour house arrest at his wife's apartment in Miami until then, with permission to leave only to meet with attorneys or for doctor's appointments

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luis_Posada_Carriles

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Who appoints federal judges? ;)

NOW that is a valid complaint..of course it was a Bush appointee that allowed bail...a sympathetic Hispanic one of course. ;)

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The 5th Circuit court of appeals, specificly

Judge Kathleen Cardone

However:

"We intend to prosecute him on criminal charges, and we've made that abundantly clear," said Dean Boyd, a spokesman for the U.S. Department of Justice in Washington. "And we expect him to appear in court on May 11."

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