LiveStrongSkins Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 "Dan Snyder and the Redskins need a corner, and he doesnt lose out on free agents." This was on the NFL CBS pre-game show about 20 minutes ago. My question is how do you guys feel this would pan out if we did sign him? Does this mean Springs is gone? Or does it mean we retain Springs and bump Rogers to the nickel? Anyways, an offseason in which the only moves we make are signing Clements and drafting Branch or Anderson will leave my alot more optimistic about next years team considering the offense continues to grow. How do you all feel about this possible defense? Would you guys prefer picking Branch over Anderson? Either way, we should atleast be decent next season. DE Carter, Anderson DT Griffin, Golston LB McIntosh, (healthy) Marshall, (healthy) Washington S- Taylor, PP, Fox, Archuletta, Doughty, (Springs?) CB- Clements, Springs, Rogers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinzOwnU Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 After watching Briggs play in Chicago, we need that man about as much as we need a new corner. He would go a long way to shoring up our run game as we rebuild our D-line. As for the draft, I think Branch/Anderson is a win/win situation. Either one, but maybe Anderson ahead of Branch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
laurent Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Been lobbying for Briggs all along. Unfortunately we blew most of our cap space on crap players, so that won't likely happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joncevensen Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 i think springs might get bumped to safety, or he will become the nickel if clements comes to town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojobo Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Been lobbying for Briggs all along. Unfortunately we blew most of our cap space on crap players, so that won't likely happen. We will rework deals and release some people so this likely wont hurt us too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan07 Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 I hope we bring in Clements. He played under GW in Buffalo, so I think GW would be able to make him great here. Samuels was very good in NE but only b/c it was his contract year. Also his tattoo that says "get paid" kinda makes me think he wouldn't be a good character guy here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 I'd much rather we brought in Asante Samuel instead. However, if we bring in another CB in F.A. I think our best option would be to move Rogers to nickel and start Springs and Clements or Samuel. When he was healthy, Springs was light years better than Rogers. Besides, I still think Springs has got plenty left in the tank to play another year or two. With either Anderson/Branch added to the DL, another CB, and the return of PP we could likely return to being a top 10 defense next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[[ghost]] Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 First, it should be a well known fact that the cap will never, ever limit us. We have Dan Snyder. The cap is his *****. Second, I'd take Asante Samuel. He's 2 years younger, and had 7 more interceptions. The last number isn't even funny. He had 10 interceptions. Considering we needed turnovers more than anything else last year, I think he's our guy. Plus, I want Jamaal Anderson. Those two would do us wonders. Not to mention Lance Briggs. I wasn't sold on this guy yet, but he is a damn good tackler. One of the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedskinDan0557 Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 I like the idea of bringing in clements, shifting springs to fs, taylor to ss, and also bringing in london fletcher as ILB and bumping marshall back outside (likely as a backup). if we don't trade down, I prefer anderson. so it would be: DE Carter, Anderson DT Griffin, Golston LB McIntosh, Fletcher, Washington S- Taylor, PP, Springs, Archuletta, Doughty, CB- Clements, Rogers, Jimoh I like fletcher as short term solution like...maybe next 2-3 years...in the meantime skins should draft an ILB for the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfbovey Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 If we do get Clements, Springs would become a nickle corner and hybrid safety. And I would like this move. Springs isn't a reliable player and with each year that passes it becomes more true. Can't afford to rely on an old injury prone player at such an important position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PCS Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Let's just say it would make many around here very happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emor09 Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Do you guys think Clements can cover Owens, Stallworth, and Burress 1-1? If he can, then we can move Springs to nickel (so he stays healthy) and Taylor can can help Rogers in all the division games Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Sisko Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Moving Taylor to SS is about as smart as putting LaVar at DE. Sure, he can do well at it but you waste his natural athletic ability and range. Make no mistake about it, Taylor (when coached properly) can cover. All we need next to Taylor is a competant SS who can cover well enough to get by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsTillIDie Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Cause... you know... overspending on marquee free agents has never bitten us in the ass before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfbovey Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Do you guys think Clements can cover Owens, Stallworth, and Burress 1-1?If he can, then we can move Springs to nickel (so he stays healthy) and Taylor can can help Rogers in all the division games I think he can do it better than Springs can at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfbovey Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Cause... you know... overspending on marquee free agents has never bitten us in the ass before In this case, Clements has not only performed at a high level... but he's played in Williams system. Makes more sense than most moves this team made last year. Integrating Clements into this defense would be seemless. As apposed to signing someone like Asante Samuel... who has never played in this defense and is more likely to be a bust if he's brought in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinsfan07 Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 In this case, Clements has not only performed at a high level... but he's played in Williams system. Makes more sense than most moves this team made last year. Integrating Clements into this defense would be seemless.As apposed to signing someone like Asante Samuel... who has never played in this defense and is more likely to be a bust if he's brought in. bingo, which is why I changed my mind about bringing in Samuels in favor of Clements. Clements would def. be better here due to the fact he played in GW's system, and would be able to fit right in. Unlike Samuel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DRSmith Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 i think springs might get bumped to safety, or he will become the nickel if clements comes to town. I think that was what Gibbs was thinking when he talked about moving Springs to safety at the end of the year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwitt Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 We will never learn. :doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiveStrongSkins Posted January 14, 2007 Author Share Posted January 14, 2007 We will never learn. :doh: Since we throw away our draft picks every year this is the only way we can improve. If Daniel Snyder is going to continue to be an idiot, atleast we can get Clements out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkinsTillIDie Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 In this case, Clements has not only performed at a high level... but he's played in Williams system. Makes more sense than most moves this team made last year. Integrating Clements into this defense would be seemless.As apposed to signing someone like Asante Samuel... who has never played in this defense and is more likely to be a bust if he's brought in. I just don't think paying an inordinate amount of money to one player is the answer at this time. We have proven time and time again that this philosophy is a huge gamble and is very probable that it could backfire on this franchise long-term. Does Clements have talent, and would he improve the position? Yeah, probably. But we have positions of need at defensive line (tackle and end), linebacker (mike), cornerback, and strong safety. In my opinion, we have good corners already in Rogers and Springs, and we need depth and a spot-starter. Here, I would like to see someone like Roderick Hood come in. Hood is young at 25, yet has 4 years of experience playing behind some of the best corners and safety in the league. He likely won't resign with the Eagles, as he has stated that he would like the opportunity to start somewhere, and he would undoubtedly love to stay in the division and play the Eagles twice a year. Here is Scouts Inc.'s report on him: Hood has a good combination of athletic ability and speed. He has good overall cover skills and is very smooth in all his movements. He has good feet, is fluid in his hips and can turn and run with most receivers in the league. He has good change-of-direction skills. He does not have a lot of wasted motion, nor does he lose speed in transition, and he has a good burst to the ball. He has the closing speed to make up for being out of position or making mistakes. He has good man-to-man cover skills, and he does a great job of planting and driving to the ball. He did an excellent job in press coverage. He was in the receiver's hip pocket and did a great job of mirroring his route. He is not a real physical player, but he is very competitive. He will go after the ball and will challenge the receiver. He does a good job in run support, is not afraid to mix it up and is a decent open-field tackler. He will wrap up on contact, but he is not going to punish receivers or running backs. He is an excellent special teams player. He does a super job on cover teams and as a kickoff return specialist. Overall, Hood does not have a lot of weaknesses. He is young and should only get better with more playing time. He has no true weakness - he is a great cover and man-to-man corner. He can play the run, instrumental for Gregg William's corners. And he excels on special teams. He is young and is only going to get better, and he is exactly the type of player we need to sign: young players with potential, with the hunger to succeed and win. And don't think the Eagles' recent successes haven't rubbed off on him, as opposed to Clements and his career of disappointing seasons. Clements, additionally, has been known to make mental errors and lose concentration at times, as noted by Scouts Inc. Comment:He generally takes good pursuit angles but has mental lapses now and then. He gambles too much and will get caught playing off technique, looking into the backfield and getting beaten by a double move. He needs to improve his focus and concentration. Hood would be a huge upgrade to our nickle situation, and he would certainly be able to come in and start for Springs - as he has done when Lito Sheppard has gone down this year and last. We don't need more overpaid primadonnas in this lockeroom. And adding someone like Hood, only 25 and still getting much better, will allow us to additionally spend money in other key areas in our defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fdarugar Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Ugh, no more big name free agents...give me Hood and Smoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterC1974 Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 i think springs is a part time player at best. the wind blows the wrong way and he gets hurt. we would be much better off with him in a back up role. we need a #1 corner and clements is the best available. c Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e16bball Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 ]']First' date=' it should be a well known fact that the cap will never, ever limit us. We have Dan Snyder. The cap is his *****.Second, I'd take Asante Samuel. He's 2 years younger, and had 7 more interceptions. The last number isn't even funny. He had 10 interceptions. Considering we needed turnovers more than anything else last year, I think he's our guy. Plus, I want Jamaal Anderson. Those two would do us wonders. Not to mention Lance Briggs. I wasn't sold on this guy yet, but he is a damn good tackler. One of the best.[/quote'] Agree on the cap. Can't disagree more about Samuel, if your argument is that all things equal, you would prefer him to Clements. If you don't want Clements because you think a bidding war will cause his price to go through the roof, then that is legit. But Samuel is simply not the player Clements is. Please don't be fooled by the INTs. A large INT total is often indicative of luck and being in the right place in the right time. A heavy pass rush is usually critical for forcing INTs (hence why we had so few). Samuel had 3 picks in 2005. 1 pick in 2004. 2 picks in 2003. Is he that much better now? Clements had 6 picks twice in his career, but only 3 last season. He's not any worse, though. You and I are a little too young to remember, but if I recall correctly, Tom Carter always had more INTs than Darrell Green. And he really was not in Darrell's class (but obviously, very few have ever been). When you look at INT totals, they fluctuate wildly even within the same player's career. It's a very rare CB who consistently has a boatload of INTs. Doesn't that indicate that INTs are largely a function of luck and circumstance? Consequently, I don't think it wise to choose a guy based on how many INTs he has. Clements is a terrific cover guy, and he's dynamic with the ball after he makes a play. He's physical and he's played in GW's scheme. He is going to get paid, no doubt, but I think he'll end up being more worth his contract than Samuel. I like Anderson as well. If we go DE, I think I'd prefer him to Adams. Adams feels like another Carter-type, while Anderson would provide us with the run-stuffing ability we expect from Daniels/Wynn/Evans along with an athletic pass-rush. As for Briggs, he's a man-beast. He's a terrifc WLB, but I'd love him to be our MLB. Still, I think we have too many other holes that need to be addressed first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGSKINS Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Lance Briggs and Nate Clements. Thats all we need in FA. We get that we will be okay. I really think we need briggs more. That guy is a Beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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