Destino Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53743 A prominent Christian leader whose radio and magazine outreaches are solidly in support of biblically-based marriages – and keeps in touch with millions of constituents daily – says he cannot consider Arizona Sen. John McCain a viable candidate for president. "Speaking as a private individual, I would not vote for John McCain under any circumstances," said James Dobson, founder of the Colorado Springs-based Focus on the Family as well as the Focus Action cultural action organization set up specifically to provide a platform for informing and rallying constituents. The two GOP guys getting the most love right now are Giuliani and McCain. I have to laugh at this. McCain isn't conservative enough for the "Christian Conservatives" that fly under the radar but really rule the GOP.... Giuliani makes McCain look like a hard line right winger, he's openly Pro-Choice and supports civil unions for gays. All you republicans that think these two will win you back the white house. Good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53743The two GOP guys getting the most love right now are Giuliani and McCain. I have to laugh at this. McCain isn't conservative enough for the "Christian Conservatives" that fly under the radar but really rule the GOP.... Giuliani makes McCain look like a hard line right winger, he's openly Pro-Choice and supports civil unions for gays. All you republicans that think these two will win you back the white house. Good luck. the christian conservatives are under the radar? i thought it was painfully obvious who was in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMS Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Yeah you're right Destino. McCain is going to be this guys best buddy when he get aload of Guliani's positions.... Personally I like Guliani and his positions. I just can't bring myself to vote Republican until this current crop of yes men and idiot's are purged from office. Maybe Guliani will run again in say a decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Punani Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 I like McCain as a person but I have my doubts over him being the President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckydevil Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Dobson opposes Mccain for all the wrong reasons. Mccain is a more hawkish Bush. The thought of him becoming president scares the hell out of me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88Comrade2000 Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Doesn't matter. The democrats will win the presidency in 08. Guilliani and Mccain will never get the Republican nod and will be making quick exits after the conservatives votes for other people in the primaries. If Mitt Romney can over conservates dislike for mormans- he has a shot. Otherwise the Republican nominee will be someone not even on the radar right now. The democratic nominee maybe John Edwards or someone else. I think Hillary will implode and already is losing support. Obama will flame out also and will show what a lightwieght he is. I do think after 8 years of Bush- people will not want another republican in the presidency. There will be enough people that feel that way, in enough states to reach 270 electoral votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tizzod Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 If wacky Christians think McCain is wrong, then he must be right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prophet Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 If those two are the choices, the Dems get the WH. Period. the CC will push for Brownback It will be intresting to see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 If wacky Christians think McCain is wrong, then he must be right. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Skins Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Otherwise the Republican nominee will be someone not even on the radar right now. Beware the Newt... I do think after 8 years of Bush- people will not want another republican in the presidency. There will be enough people that feel that way, in enough states to reach 270 electoral votes. It depends. The primary deciding factor will be how many people are willing to stick their heads in the sand and chuck national security. The Democrats, if anything, are weakening their position even more now that they have some power. They cannot reconcile their left wing base with anything that even superficially appears to be an interest in protecting the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Beware the Newt... Newt had some marriage issues as well. Not sure if the Christian Right would be able to get past that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53743The two GOP guys getting the most love right now are Giuliani and McCain. I have to laugh at this. McCain isn't conservative enough for the "Christian Conservatives" that fly under the radar but really rule the GOP.... Giuliani makes McCain look like a hard line right winger, he's openly Pro-Choice and supports civil unions for gays. All you republicans that think these two will win you back the white house. Good luck. I don't really understand the last statement. I'm an independent, but I like Giuliani. To me it's not about winning back the White House for one party or another. It's about finding the right person (or the least crappy) person to lead the country for the next four year. I don't really give a crap if there's a R or a D next to his or her name, and I don't think that Republicans whose views don't match up with McCain or Giuliani are sitting around thinking "gee, these guys'll win me back the White House". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Yeah you're right Destino. McCain is going to be this guys best buddy when he get aload of Guliani's positions.... Personally I like Guliani and his positions. I just can't bring myself to vote Republican until this current crop of yes men and idiot's are purged from office.Maybe Guliani will run again in say a decade. Guliani had prior knowledge. He should be put under oath and forced to testify before a REAL 9/11 commission. He's also an adulterer and a lousy one at that. There is nothing remotely presidential about him except for name recognition. But...that is enough these days and I think he has shot at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Guliani had prior knowledge. He should be put under oath and forced to testify before a REAL 9/11 commission. He's also an adulterer and a lousy one at that. There is nothing remotely presidential about him except for name recognition. But...that is enough these days and I think he has shot at it. Why do you say Guiliani had prior knowledge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 The democratic nominee maybe John Edwards or someone else. I think Hillary will implode and already is losing support. Obama will flame out also and will show what a lightwieght he is. I do think after 8 years of Bush- people will not want another republican in the presidency. There will be enough people that feel that way, in enough states to reach 270 electoral votes. Bush will have nothing to do with the election. Remember many republicans voted Dem during the last election to prove a point. When it comes to a president election they will be back voting repub. The problem with the dems is Obama and Hillary are going to cancel each other out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Bush will have nothing to do with the election. Remember many republicans voted Dem during the last election to prove a point. When it comes to a president election they will be back voting repub.The problem with the dems is Obama and Hillary are going to cancel each other out. Well Hillary is 5th on my list after Obama, Edwards, Gore and Biden. I can definitely live with Obama canceling Hillary out if that means Edwards gets it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbooma Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Well Hillary is 5th on my list after Obama, Edwards, Gore and Biden. I can definitely live with Obama canceling Hillary out if that means Edwards gets it. Edwards is to slimey, he will not win the bid, heck i think he will be like 5th or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.A.C.O.L.B. Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Edwards is to slimey, he will not win the bid, heck i think he will be like 5th or something No, I think Edwards is right up there with Obama on the grassroots level, which is a large part of the Dem base, and with the younger voters. I like him. I don't like Hillary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Guliani had prior knowledge. He should be put under oath and forced to testify before a REAL 9/11 commission. He's also an adulterer and a lousy one at that. There is nothing remotely presidential about him except for name recognition. But...that is enough these days and I think he has shot at it. You're seriously suggesting he had prior knowledge of the attacks? Seriously? I'd just like to make sure I'm clear here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerPacker Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 uh oh, lets not start this agian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 Why do you say Guiliani had prior knowledge? A lot of folks had prior knowledge. Guillani was the mayor and he's shrewd and smart as hell. Politically, he played it perfectly. He surely knew a great deal about what was possible on that day. Then again, I have no proof, just anecdotal speculation. It's a "WMD/Iraq" type of opinion. :laugh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 A lot of folks had prior knowledge. Guillani was the mayor and he's shrewd and smart as hell. Politically, he played it perfectly. He surely knew a great deal about what was possible on that day.Then again, I have no proof, just anecdotal speculation. It's a "WMD/Iraq" type of opinion. :laugh: So you're just making it up, essentially? Who else is on your list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TradeTheBeal! Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 So you're just making it up, essentially? Who else is on your list? All manner of Anti-Semites, Zionists, Terrorists, Neo-Cons, and Lefties. It was a conspiracy of caricatures and stereotypes. Just as you have always suspected, Todd. Stereotypes hate our freedoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsburySkinsFan Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I don't know why McCain and Guilliani are always talked about as the next Rep. nominees. Look for a governor to join the running and take the Rep. nomination. BTW, anyone know the last time someone from the Hill moved into the White House? Interesting how almost every elected President in the last 30 years was a governor prior to being elected to the White House.. Bush II--governor Clinton--governor Bush I--(Mixed goven't experience)--VP Reagan--governor Carter--governor Ford--House of Representatives--V.P.--President (not elected to either Executive branch position. Nixon--Senate Johnson--Senate, V.P.--President (not elected to President) Kennedy--Senate Eisenhower--Army General Truman--Senate *edit* Personally it seems to me like the shift happened with Nixon. My guess is that starting with Nixon there was a distrust from within the beltway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen-like Todd Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 All manner of Anti-Semites, Zionists, Terrorists, Neo-Cons, and Lefties. It was a conspiracy of caricatures and stereotypes. Just as you have always suspected, Todd. Stereotypes hate our freedoms. An answer would suffice. You're the one who opened this can of worms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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