Peyton Manning uses timeouts like Joe Gibbs

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

But he makes the timeouts worth it.

I have no idea why people always say Gibbs waste timeouts.You have to use timeouts when the play is not right.

This is not madden.

Everytime i see Manning play he uses up all his timeouts. But people do not call him a piss poor game manager.

[hail2skins]

No, there have been several instances since Gibbs has come back where it seems like he can't decide what to do. The Rams game comes to mind, where we had to take a timeout before a third down play (probably to decide whether to run or pass) and then another before fourth down to decide whether to go for it or kick.

[NavyDave]

I have to thank Peyton because the new Raven fans around me can now remain silent and acquire a care package like the Dolphins Taylor got from San Diego Shawn Merriman

Some popcorn to go with the cushy couch to watch another team in the playoffs

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

No, there have been several instances since Gibbs has come back where it seems like he can't decide what to do. The Rams game comes to mind, where we had to take a timeout before a third down play (probably to decide whether to run or pass) and then another before fourth down to decide whether to go for it or kick.

EVERY TEAM DOES THAT. That is what Peyton Manning is doing. When he calls a timeout he can not figure out the defense.

SHEESH

[kevinklein]

But he makes the timeouts worth it.

I have no idea why people always say Gibbs waste timeouts.You have to use timeouts when the play is not right.

This is not madden.

Everytime i see Manning play he uses up all his timeouts. But people do not call him a piss poor game manager.

More than likely this has to do with the fact that Manning wins. Not that Gibbs doesn't win...he's obviously had a couple of rough seasons, but I'm sure people in Indy were jumping all over Peyton's back during that little rough patch they went through.

[hail2skins]

EVERY TEAM DOES THAT. That is what Peyton Manning is doing. When he calls a timeout he can not figure out the defense.

Sure.......teams call timeout on consecutive plays (not counting when they are trying to stop the clock to get the ball back) all the time in this league.

Yeppers

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

Sure.......teams call timeout on consecutive plays (not counting when they are trying to stop the clock to get the ball back) all the time in this league.

Yeppers

That is not even possible. What are you talking about now.

[Aghar]

The biggest difference is:

Manning going to the AFC Championship Game while Joe Gibbs is sitting in his office wondering what to do with a bunch of overpaid underachieving players. :doh:

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

The biggest difference is:

Manning going to the AFC Championship Game while Joe Gibbs is sitting in his office wondering what to do with a bunch of overpaid underachieving players. :doh:

The biggest difference is talent. Not coaching. Good players make coaches look good.

[skinfan2k]

Sure.......teams call timeout on consecutive plays (not counting when they are trying to stop the clock to get the ball back) all the time in this league.

Yeppers

yep from the rams game.. they did this..

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

yep from the rams game.. they did this..

Did it cost them the game?

And can you take timeouts home with you on the bus?

If you know football you would understand with a young QB espically you can not let 1 play go to waste.

You have to call timeouts. This is not Madden where you save the 3 timeouts for the end of the game.

[hail2skins]

That is not even possible. What are you talking about now.

I'm referring to situations at the end of either the halfs or at the end of games where teams on defensive call timeouts to stop the clock so they can get their offense the ball back, either to get another score at the end of the half or at the end of the game because they need to score to either tie or win.

Again, getting back to the original point......there have been a number of instances since Gibbs came back where his clock management has been called into question. The Rams game I referred to was one such instance. The taking of the timeouts didn't have any effect on the game (and in fact Suisham made the subsequent FG to tie it up), but the fact that we had to use TOs on TWO consecutive plays seems to be indicative a staff which can't make up its mind and that perhaps has too many cooks in the kitchen.

[skinfan2k]

Did it cost them the game?

And can you take timeouts home with you on the bus?

u dont call a timeout on 3rd down and then call a run i believe and then call another timeout to decide whether to go for it.

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

I'm referring to situations at the end of either the halfs or at the end of games where teams on defensive call timeouts to stop the clock so they can get their offense the ball back, either to get another score at the end of the half or at the end of the game because they need to score to either tie or win.

Again, getting back to the original point......there have been a number of instances since Gibbs came back where his clock management has been called into question. The Rams game I referred to was one such instance. The taking of the timeouts didn't have any effect on the game (and in fact Suisham made the subsequent FG to tie it up), but the fact that we had to use TOs on TWO consecutive plays seems to be indicative a staff which can't make up its mind and that perhaps has too many cooks in the kitchen.

Its indiactive of a defense causing confusion. You know a staff calls a play based on what they think the defense is going to be.

That is why you see Peyton " using timeouts" You can not just make up your mind before the play and say we are calling this regardless.

That type of football will get u 0 super bowls. And a lot of killer turnovers.

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

u dont call a timeout on 3rd down and then call a run i believe and then call another timeout to decide whether to go for it.

You call a run because the defense is dropping back into pass coverage. You hit them on a draw.

ANd yes you call a timeout to decide whether to go for it. Like i said a 1000 times this is not Madden.

You have to analyze the situation. If you are behind and you will need the timeouts to stop the clock i agree.

[skinfan2k]

ya that does explain why he throws what 5 INTs in 2 games in the post season and his numerous superbowl wins? lol

[skinfan2k]

You call a run because the defense is dropping back into pass coverage. You hit them on a draw.

ANd yes you call a timeout to decide whether to go for it. Like i said a 1000 times this is not Madden.

You have to analyze the situation. If you are behind and you will need the timeouts to stop the clock i agree.

great run a draw to set up a 50+ yd fg :doh:

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

ya that does explain why he throws what 5 INTs in 2 games in the post season and his numerous superbowl wins? lol

huh? I said if Gibbs followed your stategy on timeouts he won have 0 super bowls and killer turnovers.

And Manning is doing his job. He is trying to manage the game when his defense is playing well.

And his running game is awful. So people know they are going to throw.

[saskin]

You didn't know Madden was the official way to build a team and the official way of how to play Real Life Pro Football?

Geez, where have you been?!

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

great run a draw to set up a 50+ yd fg :doh:

Man. WHAT? You run a draw to get a first down. You have never seen that happen huh.

Its one of Saunders staple plays. Man i have no idea what you are saying. You are saying the Redskins designed that play to get 4 yards? LOL

[skinfan2k]

huh? I said if Gibbs followed your stategy on timeouts he won have 0 super bowls and killer turnovers.

And Manning is doing his job. He is trying to manage the game when his defense is playing well.

And his running game is awful. So people know they are going to throw.

ya addai and rhodes are horrible.. that combo is better than 50% of the league rbs.. oh he had edge too..

[hail2skins]

Its indiactive of a defense causing confusion. You know a staff calls a play based on what they think the defense is going to be.

That is why you see Peyton " using timeouts" You can not just make up your mind before the play and say we are calling this regardless.

That type of football will get u 0 super bowls. And a lot of killer turnovers.

I agree that there are instances where it is appropriate to call timeouts.....defenses can cause confusion. But what Gibbs did in the Rams game was extreme. I can't remember in the Rams game whether he called timeout before or after the team had lined up for the play. OK, so maybe it happened after they lined up, and lets say the defense was set up in a way Gibbs didn't like and thus wanted to take TO. Fine. But then, when the 3rd down play falls short, he can't make up his mind about whether to go for it or kick, and thus hasto use ANOTHER timeout. Sorry, but that's inexcusable. You should know what you're going to do ahead of time......that's just plain indecisive.

As for not being able to take your timeouts home with you......true, BUT.....you don't know when you might them to stop the clock at the end of the game if the other team is down at your end of the field at the end of the game in position for a GW FG and you're trying to stop the clock to get time for your offense, but can't because.......you have NO timeouts.

Even in today's game I think it was in the first half and the Colts had burned all their timeouts with 4 mins left and the announcer said the Colts better hope there's not a close play before the 2 min warning that they'd want to challenge, because they wouldn't be able to.

[Yomar The Nifty]

Got to wonder if this screws with Vanderjagt's head - I thought he was a great kicker but great kickers can't get psyched out...

[riggoraider]

You didn't know Madden was the official way to build a team and the official way of how to play Real Life Pro Football?

Geez, where have you been?!

You ARE joking right?

[PCS]

You ARE joking right?

I'd hazard a guess and say yes.