Weganator Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 First of all... let me start off by saying I fully believe that Brandon Lloyd will be a skin next season. I have heard alot of talk about drafting a WR in the draft because we lack a true 'possesion receiver'. First of all we will NOT waste our first pick on anything other than DLine, because if we do I would just burst into tears on draft day. But this list has been developed in order to show how we can get a cheap possesion receiver without wasting a draft pick on them or overpaying. Drew Bennett 6'5 exp: 6 Age: 29 Stats Billy McMullen 6'4 exp: 4 Age: 27 Stats Kevin Walter 6'3 exp: 4 Age: 26 Stats Kelley Washington 6'3 exp: 4 Age: 28 Stats Please note..... I will not say any of these guys are game breakers, but they are all relatively big guys with a good percentage of their receptions being first downs. Only Drew Bennett has really been a productive receiver in the NFL, but any of these 4 guys could be an adequate possesion receiver if our FO tried to go in that direction. Just to say it again because some people dont read everything... I dont believe we will sign any of these guys, and Lloyd is going nowhere and will be much better next season, this is just to show that FA can get us a cheap possesion receiver so that we can talk all of this Calvin Johnson talk. DLine all the way in the draft. HTTR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apickmans Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 holy crap Kelly Washington is already 28 years old. I dont like any of them, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGSKINS Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 drew bennett for cheap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackOps Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Posession recievers don't just include tall guys. Marvin Harrison is 6 foot and is still a posession receiver. Besides, we don't need a new wide receiver. If we really really need a "posession" wide receiver, we can line Ladell Betts wide. Plus, we already have Chris Cooley. Spend the money in a more dire spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hokieskins1 Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 drew bennett for cheap. agreed... i like this guy drew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weganator Posted January 9, 2007 Author Share Posted January 9, 2007 Posession recievers don't just include tall guys. Marvin Harrison is 6 foot and is still a posession receiver.Besides, we don't need a new wide receiver. If we really really need a "posession" wide receiver, we can line Ladell Betts wide. Plus, we already have Chris Cooley. Spend the money in a more dire spot. true.... very true.... but the big knock on our receiving corp right now seems to be a lack of height, so thats why I looked for some taller options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riggo-toni Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 No point at all in drafting/signing any more WRs, because none of our QBs look beyond Moss and Cooley. Campbell is never going to be Tom Brady or Sonny Jurgensen, scanning the entire field for whoever's open. After the first or maybe second read, it's straight to the RBs. As long as the other guys are good enough to at least draw single coverage (something losers like Taylor Jacobs and Jimmy Farris couldn't manage), we'll be fine with them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. S Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 it makes sense to have a tall guy with a great jumping ability on the roster. If anything they are good in the red zone. True, posession receivers do not have to be tall, look at Coles, Hines Ward, or yeah, Marvin. However, just watch Burress or Owens (minus the drops) to see why a tall receiver who is fast and can jump is not a bad thing to have. I would not mind signing any of those players, even if they have not produced much (Besides Bennett, but I think he's staying in Tennessee). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bleach14 Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 I wouldn't mind bringin in Kelly Washington if we get rid of Patton. He would bring some much needed height to our WR corp at a low price tag. We could use him in a role like McCants had a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lovetoaster Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 holy crap Kelly Washington is already 28 years old. I dont like any of them, sorry. I think he was already 24 when he came in the league. He played pro baseball before he played for Tennessee in college. With that being said, there is no way that I would want Washington or Bennett. They are not exactly team players from what I have heard. I don't think we will be signing another WR anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santana Clause Posted January 9, 2007 Share Posted January 9, 2007 Joe Gibbs built this offense in the mold of the 99 Rams with small, lightning fast receivers and smaller faster and dynamic backs in Portis and Betts (although Portis can't catch). Then he recruits Al Saunders. Yet he won't let him throw the football, probably because we had noodle-arm and then a second year guy who took no second-string snaps before starting. Maybe we don't need a possession receiver but instead need to let Saunders employ the rhythm passing game that he used in St. Louis and the one Gibbs used in San Diego when he used to have guts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonard Washington Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 holy crap Kelly Washington is already 28 years old. I dont like any of them, sorry. :laugh: that's what i said. wasn't he formally known as kelly "the future" washington? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buck812 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 First of all... let me start off by saying I fully believe that Brandon Lloyd will be a skin next season. I have heard alot of talk about drafting a WR in the draft because we lack a true 'possesion receiver'. First of all we will NOT waste our first pick on anything other than DLine, because if we do I would just burst into tears on draft day. But this list has been developed in order to show how we can get a cheap possesion receiver without wasting a draft pick on them or overpaying. Drew Bennett 6'5 exp: 6 Age: 29 Stats Billy McMullen 6'4 exp: 4 Age: 27 Stats Kevin Walter 6'3 exp: 4 Age: 26 Stats Kelley Washington 6'3 exp: 4 Age: 28 Stats Please note..... I will not say any of these guys are game breakers, but they are all relatively big guys with a good percentage of their receptions being first downs. Only Drew Bennett has really been a productive receiver in the NFL, but any of these 4 guys could be an adequate possesion receiver if our FO tried to go in that direction. Just to say it again because some people dont read everything... I dont believe we will sign any of these guys, and Lloyd is going nowhere and will be much better next season, this is just to show that FA can get us a cheap possesion receiver so that we can talk all of this Calvin Johnson talk. DLine all the way in the draft. HTTR. I dont really care who we take in the draft but I do hope we dont get so consumed in drafting a DL that we do what the Texans did last year and pass on better football players because of it... Or like we did when we were so consumed by the fact that we needed a CB that we took Rodgers over much better football players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf85 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 How about we worry about more important things.Like our defense thats the big problem.Everyone wants to go out and buy every FA player.I guess you guys are like our front office.You never learn that doesn't work.:doh: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j_mwilliams Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 I wouldn't mind seeing McMullen in Burgundy and Gold. He is a local guy - having played in high school and college in Virginia. I agree that he would be a decent position receiver and I believe he would help out in the red zone and at least make safeties respect the pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ceviker Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Calvin Johnson is the answer. Mark my words, he is going to be a perinnial pro-bowler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ingtar Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 No point at all in drafting/signing any more WRs, because none of our QBs look beyond Moss and Cooley. Campbell is never going to be Tom Brady or Sonny Jurgensen, scanning the entire field for whoever's open. After the first or maybe second read, it's straight to the RBs. As long as the other guys are good enough to at least draw single coverage (something losers like Taylor Jacobs and Jimmy Farris couldn't manage), we'll be fine with them. That is a bold statement about a quarterback who has started 7 games and was pretty much ignored until he actually had to start. I don't think we need any more receivers. I think the idea that everyone needs a 6'5 receiver is way over blown. You can't be touched after 5 yards, so it would seem that it may be better to have speed than size as long as you can beat a jam at the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riggoraider Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 I dont really care who we take in the draft but I do hope we dont get so consumed in drafting a DL that we do what the Texans did last year and pass on better football players because of it... Or like we did when we were so consumed by the fact that we needed a CB that we took Rodgers over much better football players. I agree with you ...I do not know where this all for defense is coming from here like we have some kind of high powered offense. If we are not getting any passes thrown across the middle of the field but to our tight end every now and then and our receivers are producing the same yardage as a group as one good receiver is doing by himself there are going to be lots of 5-11 seasons in our near future no matter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
909997 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 why dont draft one late in the draft? find out marques colston Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riggoraider Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 why dont draft one late in the draft?find out marques colston That may have been a once every 10 years type of find...he was drafted second to the last person in last years draft they are usually just picking anyone at that point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciacbw Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Joe Gibbs built this offense in the mold of the 99 Rams with small, lightning fast receivers and smaller faster and dynamic backs in Portis and Betts (although Portis can't catch). Then he recruits Al Saunders. Yet he won't let him throw the football, probably because we had noodle-arm and then a second year guy who took no second-string snaps before starting. Maybe we don't need a possession receiver but instead need to let Saunders employ the rhythm passing game that he used in St. Louis and the one Gibbs used in San Diego when he used to have guts. so he had no guts while winning 3 super bowls with 3 different qb's? playing in 4 and making the playoffs every year but 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-mando- Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 eh...I say they just start using espy and seeing what he could do, he played really well imo during the preseason and showed some chemistry with campbell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lavredskin56 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 first of all with all the talent on our recieving core and backs, next year we really shouldnt have a problem pounding the ball in on third and short or if we get in third and long situation...then i say either go deep or go home. if our offense starts clicking next year we could have an offense as caliber of the colts. our line is as good as it gets and we cant get much better at reciever. plus its been done with speedy recievers back in the 92 season when we won the super bowl so i say forget this possesion reciever crap and just make it work and save the money for elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldog Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 the fact it is actually credible to start a thread about receivers in Washington after the club just went out and spent bucks on Patten, Lloyd and Randle El annoys the hell out of me :mad: what is this Detroit, where we have to spend a top pick or FA dollars every year to solidify this ONE position????? Lloyd is a bum. Gibbs has soft-soaped the things that alienated coaches and teammates from Lloyd and says that Lloyd will return in 2007 but if the attitude doesn't change, what's the point? The Redskins need some size at WR. The Cowboys have Owens. The Giants have Burress. These guys give their quarterbacks a nice safety blanket as they go up and snare balls that are over most receivers heads or out of their immediate vicinity. The Redskins receivers are all small fries. 5'9, 5'11 types. Campbell has to be very accurate with his throws as these players don't have the athletic ability to go up and fight for balls thrown down the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riggoraider Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 the fact it is actually credible to start a thread about receivers in Washington after the club just went out and spent bucks on Patten, Lloyd and Randle El annoys the hell out of me :mad:what is this Detroit, where we have to spend a top pick or FA dollars every year to solidify this ONE position????? Lloyd is a bum. Gibbs has soft-soaped the things that alienated coaches and teammates from Lloyd and says that Lloyd will return in 2007 but if the attitude doesn't change, what's the point? The Redskins need some size at WR. The Cowboys have Owens. The Giants have Burress. These guys give their quarterbacks a nice safety blanket as they go up and snare balls that are over most receivers heads or out of their immediate vicinity. The Redskins receivers are all small fries. 5'9, 5'11 types. Campbell has to be very accurate with his throws as these players don't have the athletic ability to go up and fight for balls thrown down the field. you are correct...the receiving corp is too small and can be easily lost behind usually bigger and just as fast corners...the passes that Campbell is forced to throw now to them are not high percentage passes at all What I do not think that people are seeing is that we have the same type of receivers across the board. Both ends can't be running the same pattern just on different sidelines because that does not give the QB much options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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