Poll: Asante Samuel in Burgandy and Gold?

[fdarugar]

I'm down, Samuel looks to be a more of a playmaker than Clements. However he will demand top coin.

[Vi]

Everyone keeps knocking on the front office decision from making bad FA decisions and overpaying players who then come here and under perform, but now there are countless threads saying to sign Freeney, Samuel and/or Clements. Hypocrisy?

We're fans; we're supposed to think crap like this. The FO just isn't supposed to actually do it.

[dcoles11]

NO! NO! NO! NO! NO!

Did you miss my prior post in this thread? Have you not paid any attention to the players who have left New England in the last several years? Do you not have a soul? This guy is going to be just like every other sack of **** who's left New England in the last several years.... A TOTAL BUST!!!! Do the names David Patten and Christian Fauria not register in your mind? Just like those two worthless wastes of flesh and oxygen, Samuel will be a huge bust. Especially once he's got the big $$$$.

So because 2 guys from the Patriots turned out to be bad thats it? Every free agent out of New England is automatic trash because of 2 examples??

I'm going to go out on a limb and say the have some guys with some talent and AS is one of them.

[Mass_SkinsFan]

So because 2 guys from the Patriots turned out to be bad thats it? Every free agent out of New England is automatic trash because of 2 examples??

No. Actually they're worthless sacks of **** the moment they put the Patriots jersey on the first time; so they're worthless even while they're still in New England.

I'm going to go out on a limb and say the have some guys with some talent and AS is one of them.

That's fine. You have a right to that opinion, and I have a right to disagree with it 100%. Of course I'm going to have a different POV considering that I see/hear about the Patriots on a daily basis, nearly year round, living a little more than an hour outside of Foxboro.

[chauvin]

what do you think the problem was this year...too many overpaid stars that dont fit on the skins..this is the same situation we want to avoid in the future...we gotta get away from these sorts of players look what happend when we got archuletta and lloyd

[skinsfan07]

NO. NO. NO. NO. NO.

Can I be ANY clearer on the fact that Asante Samuel should NOT even be looked at by the Washington Redskins in Free Agency under ANY circumstances?!?!?!!?

We already have TWO sacks of **** from that franchise stealing money from this team and not providing anything of value in David Patten and Christian Fauria. I would hope that we would see the correlation there and avoid Samuel under all circumstances.

Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. YES.

Asante Samuel is a very very good corner, better than anything we currently have and probably top or 10 in the league. It's stupid to think that just because the other 2 patriots free agents we signed didn't work out, this one won't either.

That's like saying if we put Tom Brady in the B&G, he would be a bust. Just b/c he's with the Pats. Yea, right. :doh:

Asante had 10 ints (league high, and he was a pro bowl snub), an int for a td today vs. the Jets, and led the league in passes defensed with 24. If we don't sign him, I'll be pissed b/c of the opportunity we passed up to get a top 5 corner back. :mad:

If we do get him, he will be a very good corner here, and him and Rogers should start. We'd have a very good secondary.

And just to let everyone know, he isn't a star, he is a player that plays the way the game is supposed to be played and is very good at it. He doesn't flaunt and talk trash, he just does his job.

Why do you think he was a pro bowl snub?

B/c it's a popularity contest and even though he led the league in ints and passes defensed, he imissed out b/c fans dont know him as well as the other "stars" they put in. (which is why we'll probably get the 2nd most overrated CB in the league, Nate Clements, b/c he's popular, and is a "star". Man I hate Synder.)

[DCskins12]

After the season hes having, he might get pricy

He fits right in!!

[shagman]

I worry a little that he will step back after his free agent year, but I really think that he would be what this DEF needs(or part of it). He gets a great jump on the ball, and with him we definitly would get 15 intercepts next year. He will be pricy though! thats for sure.

[Samuels]

You're missing the most obvious and viable option. How about sign A. Samuel and move Rogers to nickel CB?

I agree completely with Rogers at the nickel.. I just think Clements is a way better cb he is a monster in the run game and probably the hardest hitting cb in football.. And is about the closest thing you can get to shutdown anymore, just go read the Bills board and how highly they think of him..

Samuel is a system cb in my opinion he seems to excell more in zone but has decent man up skills..

This team needs to go man up and attack the whole game like this defense used to, don't ever let that offense breath

[Widget_5]

Ok let's try and get a few thing here in perspective shall we ...

... Yes AS has played very well this year (his contract year), yes hes has 11 int's (in his contract year) and yes he was snubbed for the AFC pro bowl (but do you think he's a better player than Champ or McAlister).

So let's not get over excited about 1 season take a look at what he's done previously, 6 int's in the previous 3 seasons:-

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/396071

Also remember that his HC is "Defensive Master Mind" Bill Belichick, and that BB in famous for bringing in low grade talent and molding them into good/great players due to his defensive (and offensive) system. I mean he has taken players from the streets during the playoffs, put them in at DB in and they've played really well even great...for christ sake he even had Troy Brown play DB and he's a WR!!!.

We all moan about the FO siging players just becuase on 1 good season or without doing any research or not taking everything in account ... look at how this board is reacting to a player having a good year in his contract year even though he hasn't done anything impressive in his previous 3. Plus take into consideration that he has had a great year and he has a tattoo reading "Get Paid" ... just think how much money he'll be wanting?

So let's all calm done a bit and wait to see what else is available

[IChiefLikeCP26]

Please get him, he will be worth the money, just in the fact that we can have three corners that are actually good and then definately draft d-line and we will be straight. Springs, heck even Archuleta can play some safety. Hopefully they will know when to make good judgement on whether they need to focus on run stopping or coverage and I think that with Prioleau back will give us a good rotation and depth in the secondary.

We could go with Clements, but if Samuel can be had for less I say we spend wisely.

[JoeGibbsThickandthin]

Yes get him. He plays the ball well. But adress the dline first. You can not gets INTS without pressure.

[kevinklein]

Why not just have both him and Springs at CB?

[DrunkenMaster]

None of the poll answers are correct. Get Samuel and make Rogers and Springs fight for the other starting position next year. The loser plays nickel and we have Springs future replacement so we can draft another CB next year and have some depth this year.

[CGSKINS]

I don't want samuels or clements. It would be another free agent signing that we would spend through the roof on. I think we should resign smoot if he is cut so we can save some money to spend on a DE or MLB.

I agree. When we sign him thats when he wont do s***.

[LoudMouth12thMan]

Springs would be a beast at FS IMO but it probably won't happen. But, Samuels doesn't really fit in our system. He's kinda' small, but maybe he's a sure enough tackler to fit...who knows?

[Smurf85]

Thats just confirmation that he will be a redskin

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: OMG that was great!:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[dcoles11]

No. Actually they're worthless sacks of **** the moment they put the Patriots jersey on the first time; so they're worthless even while they're still in New England.

That's fine. You have a right to that opinion, and I have a right to disagree with it 100%. Of course I'm going to have a different POV considering that I see/hear about the Patriots on a daily basis, nearly year round, living a little more than an hour outside of Foxboro.

Haha so everyone on the Patriots is a no talent piece of crap in your opinion and the only reason they win is because of the system the coaches put in place?

You do have an opinion and its extremely wrong. They have great schemes up there in NE but they also have some pretty good football players.

To say that none of them have any talent and none of them can produce for another team is ridiculous.

[ozskin]

yeah thats all we need another high priced freeagent

I guess ya right. Let's rely on Shawn Springs to stay healthy again, and let Kenny Wright and co play that game they play so well :doh:

I am against the idea of attempting to buy a championship they way we have been in recent years. But that doesn't mean we should avoid using free agency completely. It's an essential part of the NFL. We just have to use it smarter than we have in the past. Exchanging Clarke for Archuleta was an example of how not to use the high price free agency market. When we brought in Springs, that was an example of when using free agency is a good idea. Our CB group was depleted after the departure of Bailey, and it was a worth while thing to do. I believe we need to use the draft for our D-line this year, leaving free agency or we leave it how it is. You don't want to leave it how it is do you?

The problem with the way we have used free agency, is that we have been trying to fix things that weren't broken. In situation we are in right now with our CB's...it's broken, and needs fixing.

[909997]

I guess ya right. Let's rely on Shawn Springs to stay healthy again, and let Kenny Wright and co play that game they play so well :doh:

I am against the idea of attempting to buy a championship they way we have been in recent years. But that doesn't mean we should avoid using free agency completely. It's an essential part of the NFL. We just have to use it smarter than we have in the past. Exchanging Clarke for Archuleta was an example of how not to use the high price free agency market. When we brought in Springs, that was an example of when using free agency is a good idea. Our CB group was depleted after the departure of Bailey, and it was a worth while thing to do. I believe we need to use the draft for our D-line this year, leaving free agency or we leave it how it is. You don't want to leave it how it is do you?

The problem with the way we have used free agency, is that we have been trying to fix things that weren't broken. In situation we are in right now with our CB's...it's broken, and needs fixing.

we need a decent not superstar cb like samuels or clements

why not sign someone like nick harper? u can get him to sign for 10 mil

why waste 60 mil on a guy like samuels?

if we were gonna sign a CB for 60 mil we should have kept smoot for 30 mil

[Mass_SkinsFan]

Haha so everyone on the Patriots is a no talent piece of crap in your opinion and the only reason they win is because of the system the coaches put in place?

Yes. There is not a player on that team currently or formerly who I would want in Washington. Nor do/will I root for any of them who do come to Washington.

You do have an opinion and its extremely wrong. They have great schemes up there in NE but they also have some pretty good football players.

On that we'll have to disagree. That team is built around a system and philosophy that I find as abhorant as the Holocaust. There is nothing that will ever change my mind on that.

To say that none of them have any talent and none of them can produce for another team is ridiculous.

Let's just say that I have less than no interest in finding out if any of them can produce in Washington. We've tried it twice already and it's been a disaster both times.

[Nuwanda]

i love how 10 interceptions make fans in here think he's a good cornerback. the guy almost lost his starting job to a rookie this season. yes he had a productive season but he would be just another overpaid underachiever just like adam archuleta. dont let the numbers fool you. samuel is overrated. way overrated.

[Mass_SkinsFan]

Asante Samuel is a very very good corner, better than anything we currently have and probably top or 10 in the league. It's stupid to think that just because the other 2 patriots free agents we signed didn't work out, this one won't either.

Personally, I think it's stupid to even consider signing anyone who's ever played for the 'Pats. I certainly won't be rooting for him if he's here next year... except for an injury to him. There is nobody and almost nothing from that organization that I want to see in DC.

That's like saying if we put Tom Brady in the B&G, he would be a bust. Just b/c he's with the Pats. Yea, right. :doh:

Brady in B&G would be the end of my Redskins rooting affiliation and my interst in the NFL completely.

Asante had 10 ints (league high, and he was a pro bowl snub), an int for a td today vs. the Jets, and led the league in passes defensed with 24. If we don't sign him, I'll be pissed b/c of the opportunity we passed up to get a top 5 corner back. :mad:

Samuel is a product of that system. You wait and see how many fewer picks he has next year in some other uniform. I'd almost be willing to bet that he has less than 6 INT's next year, unless he's back in Foxboro.

If we do get him, he will be a very good corner here, and him and Rogers should start. We'd have a very good secondary.

With that comment you've proven to me we won't agree on anything. Rogers is a bust of Desmond Howard-esque proportions so far as I'm concerned. Since we're not going to agree on anything, there's no point in continuing to discuss it either. Buh Bye.

[mikeyf316]

Cornerback and impending free agent Asante Samuel is upset with the Patriots' most recent contract proposal.

"We've talked to them about a new contract," Samuel, who has a tattoo that reads Get Paid, said. "What they offered isn't even worth discussing." Tennessee has been mentioned as a possible landing spot and, as great a story as Hank Poteat is, we can't see the Jets not taking a look.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playernews.aspx?sport=NFL

We don't need a player like that.

To be fair, the Patriots historically drastically underpay their talent, and go for character and loyalty. That became a problem for them during the past two years. I have no problem paying high dollar for high performance, and have no problem with a high performer asking for high dollar. That's the business side of the game.

[Chump Bailey]

i love how 10 interceptions make fans in here think he's a good cornerback. the guy almost lost his starting job to a rookie this season. yes he had a productive season but he would be just another overpaid underachiever just like adam archuleta. dont let the numbers fool you. samuel is overrated. way overrated.

I think your point is a valid one. I was initially in favor of Asante over Nate but have since changed my mind. IMO - Nate is the best CB available. But, that's not to say that Asante would not be a significant upgrade over Wright or Ade.

This is all moot until we fix the D line IMO and I think it will take more than Gaines Adams...

I'm sure the guy is a great player but anyone who is claimed to be suspect against the run is not someone we should be targeting for immediate help on the line. I could be very, very wrong here - just a concern. I am willing to give some credence to this season being somewhat of an anomaly regarding the defense - poor tackling, injuries etc...

I also cannot ignore what GW has done the last two seasons, but I also think we have a severe shortage of talent also on every level on the defense. The middle of the line is like a sieve. I don't think Golston is an immediate answer. Salavea and Griffin were our best run stuffers but they cannot stay healthy and their play has dropped off significantly.