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Peyton Manning is the best QB in the league ... I have a man crush on him .. haha ... and I'm declaring it ..

After watching the Colts D roll today I think they will beat the Ravens at Baltimore and they can have a shot at the SB ... well ... they got Manning ... so anything's possible ...

I totally agree. If this d shows up, They will make the ravens offense look even more horrid. My dad is trying to tell me that the ravens have a great offense and I say that the SKINS HAVE A BETTER OFFENSE they the ravens. If the ravens d doesn't play well, they will lose.

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Brady vs. Manning isn't even close. Brady has taken lesser talent to 3 superbowl titles. Manning has taken teams FULL of talent nowhere.

Brady >>> Manning

Then, I guess Dilfer>MArino Johnson>Marino

Come on, a superbowl title doesn't show greatness. Teams need defense to win. Ever heard the saying "defense wins superbowls" I'm sure you have and it is true.

I have a feeling that Brady vs. Manning argument will turn out like Marino vr Marino.

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I think the problem is that it's not either/or. Both Manning and Brady are HOFers. Arguing one over the other is fun, and you can make a good arguement for Manning being better than Brady or Brady being better than Manning.

But you can't say that one is average, it's just not fair and not true. Manning gets the choker label, which is unfair and I think he'll eventually change that, but no one ever questions his talent. But to defend Manning, people say Brady is practically a bystander to his team's success, which is even more unfair. That's why I think it's a little bit of the draft pick bias.

Brady has said so himself, that people never thinking he was good enough is part of what drives him. To say that it's Belichick, Weis, Belichick's defense, pretty much anything other than Brady is what has been central to the team's success is not true, IMO. I think Belichick is one of the best coaches of all time, but I don't think he would've had the same consistent success if Brady wasn't there. He'd be the first to tell you that.

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The Brady vs. Manning debate reminds me alot of the Montana vs. Marino debate of the 80's. Marino was the more physically gifted passer and Montana was the guy who was cool under pressure and won the Superbowl rings. Substitute Manning for Marino and Brady for Montana, and you have my take on the argument.

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Bubba is a homer whether it's college or pro.

Brady took that job at Michigan and had the 'magic eye' then. Then he got in on a LOSING TEAM and somehow magically it turned around into a SB squad. And not just once, but three times. ANd he's played in close games in the playoffs and led the team back or held another team off.

Brady has that 'magic eye.' As good as Manning is, he's like Karl Malone to Brady's Jordan.

Bubba just hates Michigan guys because in college and pro, Manning has come up second to a Wolverine (no Heisman because Woodson earned it and no ring because Brady is the better QB.)

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No that's just silly because you're comparing apples to oranges(as far as QB position goes). If you want to make a legitimate argument Montana>>>> Marino.

How is that silly? One guy on here said Brady was better because he had the superbowl tropies.

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Because everyone knows that the Ravens won despite Dilfer. The Ravens had one of the top 5 defenses of all time. That's why they won their SuperBowl.
They might have. But, all it takes to win a SB is a game manager and a good SB. So you can't say SB defines greatness. I am not saying Brady is a game manager.
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